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    1. Re: [DVHH] HATZFELD CAtholic Church Records
    2. Barb D via
    3. if you could put it on the site for all it might be helpful to others ! Thanks Barb D -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Meany via Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:00 PM To: Sandra Bruns Cc: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] HATZFELD CAtholic Church Records Hi, I have it and will send by tomorrow. Also have an email for the Church Adminstrator as I met with him Fall 2012. I will also send you the contact info for the manager of the cemetery. Regards, Kathy Zollner Meany My Hatzfeld families: Klein and Augenstein Kathy Meany Mobile: 904-614-0622 > On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Sandra Bruns via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I was hoping someone on this list had the address to the Catholic Church > in > Jimbolia. I would like to write directly to the Parish to inquire about a > church record. > > Thank you. > > -- > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/18/2014 11:32:57
    1. Re: [DVHH] Do I have Donauschwaben ties?
    2. Eve via
    3. Dear Alicia, If I were a betting person I would say yes, you most likely are Donauschwaben. I am currently looking into the Varga line for you and I am hoping someone can take the time - I know we have those holidays approaching far too quickly, but perhaps a quick reply from someone with info on Pecs or the general area of Pecs would be nice. Eve On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Fran Matkovich via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > An interesting website about PECS: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9cs > > Fran Matkovich > > -----Original Message----- > From: ALICIA AND RUSSELL BURNS via > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:37 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Do I have Donauschwaben ties? > > Hello. I was pointed to your website because Im doing genealogy on my great > grandfather, Rudolph Hausner. He is German and his family spoke German. In > 1884 he was born and baptized in Szabolcs, Pecs, Hungary.His father is > Andrew Hausner and mother is Julianna Varga. They came to America in the > same year 1884 and settled in Luzerne County in Pennsylvania. They are coal > miners. Ive never heard of your association but thought I would tell you > about my great grandfather to see if there is some sort of link. Ive been > told my family is German, Austrian, Hungarian...its all very confusing. > Thank in advance for any input. I have many American records but the only > foreign record I have is Rudolphs baptismal certificate. I was always told > “we are Austrian”. Their censuses say they spoke German and one relative > had > a passport to go for a visit to his hometown of Funfkirchen. I was told > Pecs > and Funfkirchen are the same place and the fact they called their hometown > Funfkirchen instead of Pecs is an indicator that they are indeed German not > Hungarian. Rudolphs wife, my great grandmother, is Christine Prusch. I > don’t > know anything nor have I found anything about where the Pruschs are from > beside the usual “Austria". On some of their censuses they claim they spoke > German but also Slovakian/Slovenian. And if you asked Christine what she > was > she would say “slovak”although they seem to clearly be on American records, > of German descent. > > Rudoplph Hosner/Hausner parents are Andrew Hosner/Hausner. His mother is > Julianna Varga on his baptismal certificate but in America she called > herself Elizabeth. > > Christine Prusch’s parents are Anton Prusch and Anna ( some records say > Stevey, some say Stevens) > > Any help you could offer I would appreciate. If my family is Donauschwaben, > I really would like to know. > > Alicia Burns > New Jersey > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

    11/18/2014 10:53:51
    1. Re: [DVHH] Do I have Donauschwaben ties?
    2. Fran Matkovich via
    3. An interesting website about PECS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9cs Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: ALICIA AND RUSSELL BURNS via Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:37 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Do I have Donauschwaben ties? Hello. I was pointed to your website because Im doing genealogy on my great grandfather, Rudolph Hausner. He is German and his family spoke German. In 1884 he was born and baptized in Szabolcs, Pecs, Hungary.His father is Andrew Hausner and mother is Julianna Varga. They came to America in the same year 1884 and settled in Luzerne County in Pennsylvania. They are coal miners. Ive never heard of your association but thought I would tell you about my great grandfather to see if there is some sort of link. Ive been told my family is German, Austrian, Hungarian...its all very confusing. Thank in advance for any input. I have many American records but the only foreign record I have is Rudolphs baptismal certificate. I was always told “we are Austrian”. Their censuses say they spoke German and one relative had a passport to go for a visit to his hometown of Funfkirchen. I was told Pecs and Funfkirchen are the same place and the fact they called their hometown Funfkirchen instead of Pecs is an indicator that they are indeed German not Hungarian. Rudolphs wife, my great grandmother, is Christine Prusch. I don’t know anything nor have I found anything about where the Pruschs are from beside the usual “Austria". On some of their censuses they claim they spoke German but also Slovakian/Slovenian. And if you asked Christine what she was she would say “slovak”although they seem to clearly be on American records, of German descent. Rudoplph Hosner/Hausner parents are Andrew Hosner/Hausner. His mother is Julianna Varga on his baptismal certificate but in America she called herself Elizabeth. Christine Prusch’s parents are Anton Prusch and Anna ( some records say Stevey, some say Stevens) Any help you could offer I would appreciate. If my family is Donauschwaben, I really would like to know. Alicia Burns New Jersey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/18/2014 10:26:15
    1. Re: [DVHH] HATZFELD CAtholic Church Records
    2. Ray Schwartz via
    3. I would be interested too. /Ray Ray Schwartz, Systems Specialist Librarian schwartzr2@wpunj.edu David and Lorraine Cheng Library Tel: +1 973 720-3192 William Paterson University Fax: +1 973 720-2585 300 Pompton Road Mobile: +1 201 424-4491 Wayne, NJ 07470-2103 USA http://euphrates.wpunj.edu/faculty/schwartzr2/ On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Kathy Meany via wrote: > Hi, > > I have it and will send by tomorrow. Also have an email for the Church Adminstrator as I met with him Fall 2012. I will also send you the contact info for the manager of the cemetery. > > Regards, > Kathy Zollner Meany > > My Hatzfeld families: Klein and Augenstein > > Kathy Meany > Mobile: 904-614-0622 > > >> On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Sandra Bruns via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I was hoping someone on this list had the address to the Catholic Church in >> Jimbolia. I would like to write directly to the Parish to inquire about a >> church record. >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Sandra >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    11/18/2014 09:28:38
    1. Re: [DVHH] HATZFELD CAtholic Church Records
    2. Kathy Meany via
    3. Hi, I have it and will send by tomorrow. Also have an email for the Church Adminstrator as I met with him Fall 2012. I will also send you the contact info for the manager of the cemetery. Regards, Kathy Zollner Meany My Hatzfeld families: Klein and Augenstein Kathy Meany Mobile: 904-614-0622 > On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Sandra Bruns via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I was hoping someone on this list had the address to the Catholic Church in > Jimbolia. I would like to write directly to the Parish to inquire about a > church record. > > Thank you. > > -- > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/18/2014 09:00:45
    1. [DVHH] HATZFELD CAtholic Church Records
    2. Sandra Bruns via
    3. I was hoping someone on this list had the address to the Catholic Church in Jimbolia. I would like to write directly to the Parish to inquire about a church record. Thank you. -- Sandra

    11/18/2014 06:46:48
    1. Re: [DVHH] Banater Volksgut - Banater Folklore
    2. susan horn via
    3. Thank you, Dan, and thank you, Nick! On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Dan Larson via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am very proud to announce the publication of Banater Volksgut (Banater > Folklore) by Walter Konschitzky & Hugo Hausl in the Heritage section of the > DVHH website. > > Translated by Nick Tullius, edited by Rose Vetter, and published to our > website by Jody McKim Pharr. > > Here's the direct link: > > http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/folklore/Banater-Volksgut-Index.htm > > Click on Legends, Fairy Tales, and Comical Tales for translations > alongside the original text. > > Links can also be found at the sitemap : > http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/sitemap.htm > And on the Traditions homepage: > http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/index.htm#folklore-superstitions > > > > Dan Larson > DVHH President > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/18/2014 01:03:21
    1. [DVHH] Do I have Donauschwaben ties?
    2. ALICIA AND RUSSELL BURNS via
    3. Hello. I was pointed to your website because Im doing genealogy on my great grandfather, Rudolph Hausner. He is German and his family spoke German. In 1884 he was born and baptized in Szabolcs, Pecs, Hungary.His father is Andrew Hausner and mother is Julianna Varga. They came to America in the same year 1884 and settled in Luzerne County in Pennsylvania. They are coal miners. Ive never heard of your association but thought I would tell you about my great grandfather to see if there is some sort of link. Ive been told my family is German, Austrian, Hungarian...its all very confusing. Thank in advance for any input. I have many American records but the only foreign record I have is Rudolphs baptismal certificate. I was always told “we are Austrian”. Their censuses say they spoke German and one relative had a passport to go for a visit to his hometown of Funfkirchen. I was told Pecs and Funfkirchen are the same place and the fact they called their hometown Funfkirchen instead of Pecs is an indicator that they are indeed German not Hungarian. Rudolphs wife, my great grandmother, is Christine Prusch. I don’t know anything nor have I found anything about where the Pruschs are from beside the usual “Austria". On some of their censuses they claim they spoke German but also Slovakian/Slovenian. And if you asked Christine what she was she would say “slovak”although they seem to clearly be on American records, of German descent. Rudoplph Hosner/Hausner parents are Andrew Hosner/Hausner. His mother is Julianna Varga on his baptismal certificate but in America she called herself Elizabeth. Christine Prusch’s parents are Anton Prusch and Anna ( some records say Stevey, some say Stevens) Any help you could offer I would appreciate. If my family is Donauschwaben, I really would like to know. Alicia Burns New Jersey

    11/17/2014 12:37:28
    1. [DVHH] Banater Volksgut - Banater Folklore
    2. Dan Larson via
    3. I am very proud to announce the publication of Banater Volksgut (Banater Folklore) by Walter Konschitzky & Hugo Hausl in the Heritage section of the DVHH website. Translated by Nick Tullius, edited by Rose Vetter, and published to our website by Jody McKim Pharr. Here's the direct link: http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/folklore/Banater-Volksgut-Index.htm Click on Legends, Fairy Tales, and Comical Tales for translations alongside the original text. Links can also be found at the sitemap : http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/sitemap.htm And on the Traditions homepage: http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/index.htm#folklore-superstitions Dan Larson DVHH President

    11/17/2014 11:42:21
    1. Re: [DVHH] DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 284
    2. elizabeth hebert via
    3. Hello, I am interested in a book by Rosi Hoffman about the history of Kisdorog but can't find it anywhere.  Any thoughts: Wie's daheim war: Ein Lesebuch uber Kleindorog, Kisdorog On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:01 AM, "donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the message you are responding to.  Otherwise it could cause your message to be too long and not get posted.  Your cooperation is appreciated. Today's Topics:   1. Purchasing Family Books (cheryl oberkirsch)   2. Re: Purchasing Family Books (Alex Leeb) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:25:50 -0600 From: cheryl oberkirsch <fiveo1983@hotmail.com> Subject: [DVHH] Purchasing Family Books To: DVHH Mail List <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY177-W430C5201B235FFAE7C3EE6BF8A0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everyone,I am interested in purchasing the Family Books for Sackelhausen.  I have sent an email to ask who to send payment for them but have not received a reply.  I am wondering if anyone has purchased them and how they actually paid for them.Thanks,Cheryl Oberkirsch                         ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 20:44:06 -0700 From: Alex Leeb <al4501@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Purchasing Family Books To: cheryl oberkirsch <fiveo1983@hotmail.com> Cc: DVHH Mail List <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E4B43FC5-C824-4FEF-8A96-F5177CD9788A@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Chery. If I'm correct, I believe the Sackelhause books are sold out. "HOG ? Vorsitzender: Nikolaus Fuhry.  e-mail - kortinau@t-online.de    Web page."       http://www.sackelhausen.eu/index.php?id=214   (scroll down for photos) Alex. ----------------- On 2014-11-16, at 3:25 PM, cheryl oberkirsch via wrote: > Hello everyone,I am interested in purchasing the Family Books for Sackelhausen.  I have sent an email to ask who to send payment for them but have not received a reply.  I am wondering if anyone has purchased them and how they actually paid for them.Thanks,Cheryl Oberkirsch                         > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 284 ******************************************************

    11/17/2014 04:28:24
    1. Re: [DVHH] Purchasing Family Books
    2. Alex Leeb via
    3. Chery. If I'm correct, I believe the Sackelhause books are sold out. "HOG – Vorsitzender: Nikolaus Fuhry. e-mail - kortinau@t-online.de Web page." http://www.sackelhausen.eu/index.php?id=214 (scroll down for photos) Alex. ----------------- On 2014-11-16, at 3:25 PM, cheryl oberkirsch via wrote: > Hello everyone,I am interested in purchasing the Family Books for Sackelhausen. I have sent an email to ask who to send payment for them but have not received a reply. I am wondering if anyone has purchased them and how they actually paid for them.Thanks,Cheryl Oberkirsch > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/16/2014 01:44:06
    1. [DVHH] Purchasing Family Books
    2. cheryl oberkirsch via
    3. Hello everyone,I am interested in purchasing the Family Books for Sackelhausen. I have sent an email to ask who to send payment for them but have not received a reply. I am wondering if anyone has purchased them and how they actually paid for them.Thanks,Cheryl Oberkirsch

    11/16/2014 09:25:50
  1. 11/15/2014 12:39:57
    1. Re: [DVHH] Tschakowa Familienbuch Look Up Request - WERSCHING
    2. Robert Evensen via
    3. I have sent the information on to Dave Smith. Robert Evensen -----Original Message----- From: David Smith via Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:46 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Tschakowa Familienbuch Look Up Request - WERSCHING Hello I am searching for more information on the following: WERSCHING, Johann - Born 1896 in Macedonia, Romania. Died 1952 in Timisoara. Son of Vinzenz Wersching and Maria Gerhardt. Married Anna Kleefass in Rudna on 29 April 1922. Groomsmen were Andreas Wersching, Adalbert Wieland. WERSCHING, Rudolf - Born 1886 in Mailat, Romania. Son of Vinzenz Wersching and Maria Gerhardt. Married Barbara Wohlsein in Giulwess on 16 Oct 1910. Groomsmen were Josef Becker, Peter Porte. What little information I have above has come from the the Ulmbach-Neupetsch Familienbuch. I believe it is possible that additional family information might be found in the Tschakowa Familienbuch since Macedonia appears to be a related parish (and possibly Giulwess as well?). Mailat appears to be a filial parish of Deutschsanktpeter and I do not believe that a familienbuch exists. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Dave Smith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/14/2014 08:37:08
    1. [DVHH] Tschakowa Familienbuch Look Up Request - WERSCHING
    2. David Smith via
    3. Hello I am searching for more information on the following: WERSCHING, Johann - Born 1896 in Macedonia, Romania. Died 1952 in Timisoara. Son of Vinzenz Wersching and Maria Gerhardt. Married Anna Kleefass in Rudna on 29 April 1922. Groomsmen were Andreas Wersching, Adalbert Wieland. WERSCHING, Rudolf - Born 1886 in Mailat, Romania. Son of Vinzenz Wersching and Maria Gerhardt. Married Barbara Wohlsein in Giulwess on 16 Oct 1910. Groomsmen were Josef Becker, Peter Porte. What little information I have above has come from the the Ulmbach-Neupetsch Familienbuch. I believe it is possible that additional family information might be found in the Tschakowa Familienbuch since Macedonia appears to be a related parish (and possibly Giulwess as well?). Mailat appears to be a filial parish of Deutschsanktpeter and I do not believe that a familienbuch exists. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Dave Smith

    11/14/2014 06:46:18
    1. [DVHH] Remember to Tell the Children: A Trilogy Book I: The Pioneers
    2. Karen Dalton Preston via
    3. Henry Fischer’s excellent fictionalized multi-generational history of the migration of the German Danubeswaben into Hungary in paperback format is now on sale (12% off) on Amazon’s website: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1425939201/ref=pe_1205900_126781550_em_1p_2_ti <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1425939201/ref=pe_1205900_126781550_em_1p_2_ti> —Karen

    11/13/2014 09:32:19
    1. [DVHH] Engelsbrunn records posted
    2. Karen Dalton Preston via
    3. I am forwarding the following announcement from the Banat List - Hello all, The Engelsbrunn (Fântânele, Kisfalud) Church and Civil record images are now available on the Village Records Resources website - www.village-records.org <http://www.village-records.org/> <http://www.village-records.org/ <http://www.village-records.org/>> Birth/Baptism records from 1768 to 1903, Marriage records from 1768 to 1914, and Death records span 1768 to 1906. We are indebted to Anne Leptich for her donation of the images, and sponsoring the filming of the records by Dan Jurca. Cheers, David Preston

    11/13/2014 01:21:05
    1. [DVHH] Werle family
    2. robin pruter via
    3. There was a branch of the Werles who came from Perkossowa and ended up in DuPage County, Illinois--Chicago's west suburbs. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:00 AM, < donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Enquiry re: Werle/Wehrle (John Wrbanek) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:46:01 -0500 > From: "John Wrbanek" <jdwrbanek@roadrunner.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Enquiry re: Werle/Wehrle > To: "'Rose Vetter'" <rosevetter@gmail.com>, "'Donna Dickens'" > <dickens3@att.net> > Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <003001cffdd7$5c196d80$144c4880$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > There was a Werle family that adopted my great grandfather and siblings > around 1890 in Bresondorf/Bars?nyfalva/Breson, Banat/Romania (though the > family referred to the region as Temeswar), and moved there from > Kernei/Ker?ny/Kljaji?evo, Batschka/Vojvodina. Where their ancestors came > from I do not know. > > John W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rose Vetter via > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 11:10 PM > To: Donna Dickens > Cc: > Subject: [DVHH] Enquiry re: Werle/Wehrle > > Hello Donna, > > Yes, that name does ring a bell. It seems to be common in the area around > Goldscheuer/Marlen/Kittersburg in Baden W?rttemberg. There were some > Werles who settled in Apatin in the 1700's. There is also a Wehrle entry > in the online Weprowatz Familienbuch (P. 1391): > http://www.schererkarlsruhe.de/familienbuch-weprowatz.html > Do you have any names, dates, villages, etc. of your ancestors to help > narrow down your search? > > I also happen to know there are Wehrle descendants living in the Winnipeg, > Manitoba area. Their ancestors from the Black Forest in Germany were part > of a group of immigrants who settled in the small community of Little > Britain around 1929. If you search http://www.canada411.ca/ you'll find > a number of Wehrle listings--I'm pretty sure they're all related. You > might want to give some of them a call. > > Good luck in your search, > Rose > > On 7 November 2014 08:35, Donna Dickens via < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I am looking for origin of early settlers last name Werle....hope > > their name rings a bell. > > > > Donna > > > > > > On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:01 AM, " > > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com" < > > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 279 > ****************************************************** >

    11/12/2014 06:35:29
    1. Re: [DVHH] DS from Ruma
    2. Michael Ewing via
    3. Hi Anne & Eric, Below is an excerpt from Carl Bischof's book "Die Geschichte der Marktgemeinde Ruma". It states that the earliest settlers of Ruma who migrated about 1746-1748 were from Franconia, particularly the area near Bamberg. This conclusion was apparently based on dialect and the style of Tracht (dress) worn by Rumaer. I can certainly attest to my mother's and grandmother's southerly dialect (not Schwaebisch, not Schwowisch - more Bayrisch). My own NAGEL & NOLL lines I've traced back to the Black Forest region of Schwaben - they settled in Ruma in the late 1700's; I'm not sure which family names actually stem from the Bamberg area and have not seen any direct linkages to that region from Ruma personally. My conversations with other researchers indicate that the later-settling families came from many German areas, not only the Black Forest, but also from Austria, Luxembourg, Hessen... Eric - I don't have the names you are looking for in my database, but I know that the PENDL and especially WOLF families were large - as was Anne's DREHER family. There is no tree for either family in the second volume of "Rumaer Dokumentation", but it's possible that such a tree was created for these families. The difficult part is that the females were often excluded on the trees, so you would need to get back to a male relative - this is a big wall for me personally. For those families that appear not to have a tree, research is very slow-going, as there are no filmed records; records are apparently available only at the archives in Mitrovica. This is also the case with several of my Ruma families. If there is any interest in getting a researcher, I'd consider partnering to cover costs. >From "Die Geschichte der Marktgemeinde Ruma": "Die erste Gruppe Rumaer, die in den Jahren 1746-1748 in mehreren Gruppen zur Probesiedlung berufen wurden, stammten größtenteils aus den nordbayerischen Regierungsbezirken Oberpfalz, Ober- und Unterfranken. Nach der Volkstracht des 18.Jahrhunderts dürften die meisten aus dem Bereich des Bamberger Bistums stammen, da die alte Rumaer Tracht jener sehr ähnlich ist. Auch alle sonstigen Nachforschungen deuten auf diese Gebiete hin." Kind regards, Mike On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:00 AM, < donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:50:07 -0800 > From: Eric Jiran <eric.jiran@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] DS from Ruma > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com, Anne Dreer > <dreera@sympatico.ca> > Message-ID: > <1415325007.51286.YahooMailBasic@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Anne Dreer and Mike Ewing, > > I also have family from Ruma, and would be interested in any information > you are willing to share! > My 2x great grandmother is Elizabeta Pendle (1873-1949). Her parents > were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. > > Elizabeta married Ivan Hoffman, and they had 4 children: Barbara, Eva (my > g-grandmother), Rose, and Adam. > > Ivan Hoffman died sometime before 1914; Elizabeta then married Josip > Molnar in Feb 1914. Josip was a widower and had three children of his own, > Rose, Josephine, and Frank. Josip died in 1917. > > Barbara Hoffman came to Chicago in 1907. > Rose Hoffman died in 1918 > Eva Hoffman married my g-grandfather Anton Felker in 1920 in Ruma. > > In 1921 Elizabeta packed up the family, my newly married g-grandparents, > Adam, and the three Molnar kids, and moved to Chicago. > > The only thing we know about Anton's history is his father died when he > was very young; his mother's first name was Magdalena; and he was raised > mostly by an aunt and uncle; we don't know their names. > > The earliest document we have on Anton is his First Communion at the > Catholic church in Ruma. > > So basically I would welcome any information on: > Anton Felker and his parents > Ivan Hoffman and his parents > Pavao and Ana (Wolf) Pendle > > Many thanks! > Eric Jiran > > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 11/6/14, Anne Dreer via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > Subject: [DVHH] DS from Ruma > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 4:48 PM > > Hello Mike Ewing, > My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on > where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our > family came from the Black Forest in Germany. > The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from > Baden W?rttemberg. Do you have any information at all. > I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have > the former residents names and street and house numbers. > They have the history of the the settlement, but not? > ? where the people came from . > Anne Dreer > >

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    1. Re: [DVHH] Enquiry re: Werle/Wehrle
    2. John Wrbanek via
    3. There was a Werle family that adopted my great grandfather and siblings around 1890 in Bresondorf/Barsónyfalva/Breson, Banat/Romania (though the family referred to the region as Temeswar), and moved there from Kernei/Kerény/Kljajićevo, Batschka/Vojvodina. Where their ancestors came from I do not know. John W. -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rose Vetter via Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 11:10 PM To: Donna Dickens Cc: Subject: [DVHH] Enquiry re: Werle/Wehrle Hello Donna, Yes, that name does ring a bell. It seems to be common in the area around Goldscheuer/Marlen/Kittersburg in Baden Württemberg. There were some Werles who settled in Apatin in the 1700's. There is also a Wehrle entry in the online Weprowatz Familienbuch (P. 1391): http://www.schererkarlsruhe.de/familienbuch-weprowatz.html Do you have any names, dates, villages, etc. of your ancestors to help narrow down your search? I also happen to know there are Wehrle descendants living in the Winnipeg, Manitoba area. Their ancestors from the Black Forest in Germany were part of a group of immigrants who settled in the small community of Little Britain around 1929. If you search http://www.canada411.ca/ you'll find a number of Wehrle listings--I'm pretty sure they're all related. You might want to give some of them a call. Good luck in your search, Rose On 7 November 2014 08:35, Donna Dickens via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am looking for origin of early settlers last name Werle....hope > their name rings a bell. > > Donna > > > On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:01 AM, " > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com" < > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >

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