John Haumann, Any tie to the Haumanns that originated from Ceric? I have an great-uncle George b. 1891, d. 1984 in Portland Oregon, with father Johann and mother Anna Untereiner. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mep via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 6:17 PM To: John Haumann Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. It might not have been common but it did happen. Do not forget Jewish. My maternal line goes back to Deta, Romania to the 1780's. My great grandmother was from a Jewish family (a brother of hers changed his surname to a more German sounding name to avoid the antisemitism of the day). My grandparents was Catholic. This explains the small percentage of Jewish genes in my DNA. Martin On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM, John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < [email protected]> wrote: > Kelly, > > I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father > was originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a > Lutheran village (Sekitsch). > > > John Haumann > > > ===== > > On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely > interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not > been familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic > villages and families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and > probably came later to Hungary. I know our families must have come > about 1885-1886 to the Batschka. So the villages that I'm most > familiar with are Kischker, Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. > > > > > > I do have some questions about all of this: > > > > > > From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben > ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? > > > > > > I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich > > * > 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina > Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any > more information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they > move to another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. > > > > > > Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other > Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or > information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife > Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John, Beth, Thank you for your responses. My Mathias VERBANACZ must have been born by about 1767 so if there is a connection, he'd either be a much younger brother or a nephew of Georg. I don't suppose there is any information on where this family came from before Apatin or general source locations for immigrants to the town at this time, but if that's an incorrect assumption, please let me know. Thanks, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM > To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' > Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on > Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in > Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), > Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia > (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael > (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by > 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), > but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that > the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the > first > church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by > for > that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between > the > Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. > > Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina > Lauterbach's family? > > Thanks, > John Wrbanek > > > Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on > Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in > Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), > Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia > (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael > (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by > 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), > but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that > the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the > first > church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by > for > that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between > the > Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. > > Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina > Lauterbach's family? > > Thanks, > John Wrbanek > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth > Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM > To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: > > ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 > children > I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH > II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children > > ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: > Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet > 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna > 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig > E " Josef > Lautenbach Katharina > Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann > Kaplan > > VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: > > Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina > ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 > Children: > Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits > Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov > 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun > 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 > > Georg VERBONATZ age 33 > m. 12 Aug 1793 > Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak > `Children: > Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 > Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 > Juliana > b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 > d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 > Feb 1811 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > John (and Beth too), > > I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus > NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been > found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK > (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents > were from elsewhere. > > I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on > the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can > determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional > research. > > Thank you and best regards, > Mike >
I have reason to believe that my family ended up in the Oradour Lager in Schwaz, Tirol, Austria. I know that two of my mother’s sisters where born in Schwaz which is why I believe that the Oradour Lager is the place where they ended up. My Mother has told me about the Lager while she was still alive but I am not sure if it was called Oradour at the time. Does anyone have any information on this? They travelled from Marienfeld to Austria before ending up in Canada. Katharina Sent from my iPhone
Hi Frank, I also have Marschall ancestors. Bikatch could be Bikač in the Serbian Vojvodina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikač <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bika%C4%8D>. My grandmother’s maiden name was Marschall; she was born in Setschan, but her father was originally from Albrechtsflor (Teremia Mică), now Romania, which is less than 50 km north of Bikač. I couldn’t figure out what records might be available for Bikač; it seems pretty tiny so it may be a filial parish of a larger nearby village, but I don’t know. Maybe someone on the list can help. Best, Anna > On Jan 15, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Franz via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > I've been trying to trace these names: > Marschall > Leitner > Limbach > Foro > Howe > Ganschier > Kriestof > Fux > Kiechel > Jochim > > Marschall was my Father's last name and was living in a town called Bikatch I believe and was put in a camp in Banat? I'm not certain about this. Any thing would help. > > Thank You, > > Frank Marshall > > -- > Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! > https://tutanota.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dietrich family from Katsch. Sent from my iPhone
Hello friends, I wanted to share this database I recently ran across for folks who may have roots from the Poznan area of Prussia Poland. http://poznan-project.psnc.pl/search.php It's most excellent. I've found numerous family members listed in the Church & Civil records. Kudos to the folks that made this database possible. Happy Hunting! Joy :-) Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
These are the names I’m focusing on this year: BARON: Deutsch-Zerne, Ernsthausen, Rudolfsgnad, Tschestereg BAUMGARTNER (BAUMGÄRTNER): Hatzfeld, Modosh, Offsenitza, Pardan, Zichydorf BRENNESSEL (BRENESEL, BRENNESEL, BRENESZ, BRENNESZEL, BRENNESL, PRENNESEL): Ernsthausen, Lazarfeld, Rudolfsgnad, Sartscha, Setschan, Tschestereg FAYS (FAY, FAIJ): Grabatz, Pardan HEIM (HEYM, HAIM, HAJM): Marienfeld JERHOFF (JERHOF, GERHOFF): Botosch, Ernsthausen, possibly also Klek, Lazarfeld, Neudorf (Ujfalu), Sartscha, Zichydorf KASSAY (KASSAI, KASZAY): Pardan, Zichydorf KESSLER (KESZLER): Grabatz? LANDGRAF: Modosch LAUFER: Modosch ÖHL (OEL): Marienfeld SAMSON: Ernsthausen, Tschestereg SCHISSLER (SCHÜSSLER): Hatzfeld SOHL (SOLL, SZOHL, SZOL): Gross Gaj, Modosch
Kelly, I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran village (Sekitsch). John Haumann ===== On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hi everyone! > > > I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. > > > I do have some questions about all of this: > > > From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? > > > I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. > > > Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? > > > Thank you! > > > Kind regards, > > > Kelly
It might not have been common but it did happen. Do not forget Jewish. My maternal line goes back to Deta, Romania to the 1780's. My great grandmother was from a Jewish family (a brother of hers changed his surname to a more German sounding name to avoid the antisemitism of the day). My grandparents was Catholic. This explains the small percentage of Jewish genes in my DNA. Martin On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM, John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < [email protected]> wrote: > Kelly, > > I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was > originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran > village (Sekitsch). > > > John Haumann > > > ===== > > On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely > interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been > familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and > families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to > Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the > Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, > Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. > > > > > > I do have some questions about all of this: > > > > > > From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben > ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? > > > > > > I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * > 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina > Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more > information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to > another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. > > > > > > Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other > Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or > information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife > Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello, I've been trying to trace these names: Marschall Leitner Limbach Foro Howe Ganschier Kriestof Fux Kiechel Jochim Marschall was my Father's last name and was living in a town called Bikatch I believe and was put in a camp in Banat? I'm not certain about this. Any thing would help. Thank You, Frank Marshall -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com
Hello, I am researching glassblower families from Bakony/Városlőd, Pille, Németbánya, Csehbánya, Lókút, Óbánya, Pénzeskút/ All the families from Lókút, first of all: Schoffhauser, Ulrich, Vajcs/Voech, Kalamász, Horváth, Istenes, Horeczki, Tehel... Csesznek - Hegyi, Bakonyszentkirály- Varga, Horváth, Somogyi Óhid-Tarsoly, Stekovics Körhegyi alias Krchó from Nyitra Thanks -- S. Hegyi Ilona Adelheid 06/20/431-9073 [email protected] www.sumegiviolin.com
Stephanus Filler in Szonta, Apatin Anna Krieg - Szonta, Apatin JosephusKeller - Brestovacz (Anton Peschner has assisted me here) Anna Torer - Brestovacz Magdalena Kauffman in Hodshag or Karavukovo Karl Keller in Karavukovo; came from Neuhausen Germany Anna Torrer - Brestovacz Appolonia Gottler - Brestovacz Barbara Leiber - second wife to Karl Keller - Karavukovo Johann Keller - Karavukovo Magareta Jager - Karavukovo, wife Johann Joseph Keller - Karavukovo Anna Maria Lenhardt, wife of Joseph, Karavukovo Kept trying to send and computer would not send; said did not recognize Donauschwaben name.
Thanks. Interesting. John W. -----Original Message----- From: Beth Tolfree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:44 AM To: 'John Wrbanek' <[email protected]>; 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Josef BECKER (son of Jakob B & Margaretha IMHOF) born 25 Feb 1778 died 14 Dec 1833 m. 23 Nov 1801 I. Katharina LAUTERBACH (daughter of Andreas L and Katharina KIHN) born 1789 died 31 Mar 1820 Children: Johann 02 Mar 1802 Josef 06 May 1803 Elisabeth 16 Mar 1805 Ohann 24 Feb 1807 Michael 28 Mar 1809 / 19 Jun 1809 Katharina 27 Feb 1811 Mathias 08 Mar 1813 Susanna 29 Jan 1815 Martin 23 Jan 1818 Johann 30 Mar 1820 / 30 Mar 1820 II. Elisabeth STRUMBERGER (daughter of Bernhard S and Elisabeth WEBER) b. 07 Dec 1796 died 16 Aug 1861 m. 28 Nov 1820 7 Children:- Franz 1822/Josef 1823/Katharina 1825/Thomas 1826/Christoph 1828/Agatha 1831/Anton 1833 Beth -----Original Message----- From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the first church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by for that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between the Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina Lauterbach's family? Thanks, John Wrbanek -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 children I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig E " Josef Lautenbach Katharina Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann Kaplan VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 Children: Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 Georg VERBONATZ age 33 m. 12 Aug 1793 Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak `Children: Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 Juliana b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 Feb 1811 -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK John (and Beth too), I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents were from elsewhere. I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional research. Thank you and best regards, Mike ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:00:51 -0500 > From: John Wrbanek <[email protected]> > To: "'Rita Schiwanowitsch'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Sorry, I don' t have the family book for Apatin. What I have on > Apatin is from Beth Tolfree, Village Coordinator > (http://www.dvhh.org/apatin), who kindly sent me scans of relevant > pages from the book for my Verbanatz relations. > > My Becker from Apatin is my fourth great-grandmother Elizabeth Becker, > who married a Michael Verbanatz. Though she had several children in > Apatin, I don't know if she is originally from Apatin or if her > parents even were. > Her father was supposedly Joseph, and she would have been born > probably sometime before 1800 (which is a guess on my part). I know > Michael died in Veliskovci, but I know very little of Elizabeth. This > is a foggy part of my tree which I would like to solve at some point. > > John W. > _____ > > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of > John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > > Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of > nearest > generation: > > VELI?KOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balenti?, > Gissinger, Takali? > > BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohm?ller > > GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (?sterreicher), > Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, > Glaser, Oehl > (?ll) > > FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, > Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, > Wituschek (Vitou?ek), etc... > > K?BEKH?ZA: Windbacher > > KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag > > MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, M?ller, Schneider, Oehl (?ll), Knab, > Schulder, Stagl, etc. > > APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, > Lausenbacher?, Keller? > > Of particular interest is information on the families from VELI?KOVCI > and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant > APATIN roots is also always of interest. > > Thanks, > > John Wrbanek > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Does anyone have knowledge about the Jakschitz name or lineage? -------- Original Message ---------- From: Karen Beard <[email protected]> To: DVHH-L Administrator via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Date: January 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM Subject: roll call Names I am researching--Wenzler, Maas, Honisch, Jakschitz (Jaksics), Steib, Stemmer, Walter, Hipp, Mauch. Josef Johann Wenzler & Elisabeth Mauch married Feb. 1, 1768 in Frittlingen, Germany. Emigrated to Filipowa in 1769. Villages--Hodschag, Backi Brestovac, Apatin, Filipowa, & Frittlingen,Germany. Thank you
Josef BECKER (son of Jakob B & Margaretha IMHOF) born 25 Feb 1778 died 14 Dec 1833 m. 23 Nov 1801 I. Katharina LAUTERBACH (daughter of Andreas L and Katharina KIHN) born 1789 died 31 Mar 1820 Children: Johann 02 Mar 1802 Josef 06 May 1803 Elisabeth 16 Mar 1805 Ohann 24 Feb 1807 Michael 28 Mar 1809 / 19 Jun 1809 Katharina 27 Feb 1811 Mathias 08 Mar 1813 Susanna 29 Jan 1815 Martin 23 Jan 1818 Johann 30 Mar 1820 / 30 Mar 1820 II. Elisabeth STRUMBERGER (daughter of Bernhard S and Elisabeth WEBER) b. 07 Dec 1796 died 16 Aug 1861 m. 28 Nov 1820 7 Children:- Franz 1822/Josef 1823/Katharina 1825/Thomas 1826/Christoph 1828/Agatha 1831/Anton 1833 Beth -----Original Message----- From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the first church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by for that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between the Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina Lauterbach's family? Thanks, John Wrbanek -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 children I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig E " Josef Lautenbach Katharina Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann Kaplan VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 Children: Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 Georg VERBONATZ age 33 m. 12 Aug 1793 Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak `Children: Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 Juliana b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 Feb 1811 -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK John (and Beth too), I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents were from elsewhere. I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional research. Thank you and best regards, Mike ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:00:51 -0500 > From: John Wrbanek <[email protected]> > To: "'Rita Schiwanowitsch'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Sorry, I don' t have the family book for Apatin. What I have on > Apatin is from Beth Tolfree, Village Coordinator > (http://www.dvhh.org/apatin), who kindly sent me scans of relevant > pages from the book for my Verbanatz relations. > > My Becker from Apatin is my fourth great-grandmother Elizabeth Becker, > who married a Michael Verbanatz. Though she had several children in > Apatin, I don't know if she is originally from Apatin or if her > parents even were. > Her father was supposedly Joseph, and she would have been born > probably sometime before 1800 (which is a guess on my part). I know > Michael died in Veliskovci, but I know very little of Elizabeth. This > is a foggy part of my tree which I would like to solve at some point. > > John W. > _____ > > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of > John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > > Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of > nearest > generation: > > VELI?KOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balenti?, > Gissinger, Takali? > > BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohm?ller > > GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (?sterreicher), > Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, > Glaser, Oehl > (?ll) > > FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, > Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, > Wituschek (Vitou?ek), etc... > > K?BEKH?ZA: Windbacher > > KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag > > MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, M?ller, Schneider, Oehl (?ll), Knab, > Schulder, Stagl, etc. > > APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, > Lausenbacher?, Keller? > > Of particular interest is information on the families from VELI?KOVCI > and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant > APATIN roots is also always of interest. > > Thanks, > > John Wrbanek > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My great - grandparents were Anton Felker and Eva Hoffman. Eva's parents were Ivan Hoffman and Elizabeta Pendl. Elizabeta's parents were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. In 1921, Anton & Eva, along with Elizabeta (now Molnar, she was a widower twice), and Elizabeta's three step children from her marriage with Molnar, immigrated to Chicago. I know nothing of Anton's parent's or family, except that his mother's first name was Magdelena. Cheers! Eric Jiran
Thank you for looking Beth. Mom connects genetically there but not sure how. Rita ________________________________ From: Beth Tolfree <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 2:44 PM To: 'Rita Schiwanowitsch'; 'John Wrbanek'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' Subject: RE: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin Rita: There are an awful lot of BECKERS in Apatin (over 6 pages). Only 6 BECKS listed (no Michaels or Johanns). BECKERS": Johann Nepomuk born 21 Sep 1801 to Johann Becker and Anna Michl Johann born 02 Mar 1802 to Josef Becker and Katharina Lauterbach Michael born 18 Jul 1813 to Philipp Becker and Susanna Guth Johann born 13 Apr 1802 to Johann Becker and Theresia Mueller His son Johann with Theresia Manier born 16 Oct 1829 There were several Johanns and Michaels who did not survive infancy. Beth -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rita Schiwanowitsch via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:02 AM To: John Wrbanek; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin Hello John..... I see that you have a Becker from Apatin. Do you happen to have the family book for Apatin? I am looking for a Michael or Johann Becker/Beck/Beckman that may have been born there. Michael in the late 1700's. Johann in the early 1800's. Or anyone else that may have this information. Thank you in advance. Rita ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of nearest generation: VELIŠKOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balentić, Gissinger, Takalić BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohmüller GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (Österreicher), Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, Glaser, Oehl (Öll) FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, Wituschek (Vitoušek), etc... KÜBEKHÁZA: Windbacher KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, Müller, Schneider, Oehl (Öll), Knab, Schulder, Stagl, etc. APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, Lausenbacher?, Keller? Of particular interest is information on the families from VELIŠKOVCI and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant APATIN roots is also always of interest. Thanks, John Wrbanek ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am also looking for a Dreer, but from Sveti Rok, Croatia. First name is Maria or Magdalena, born around 1878. She married a Brkich and had a son Ivan (1911-1969), who is my mother's mother's father. ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of anna dreer via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ruma Connection Hello Mike, There were quite a few Dreers in Ruma. Unfortunately all of the the ‘older’ generation is long dead, (those who were adults when they fled). Do you have the names of other Ruma relatives? According to my husband’s family their name was always spelled without an h. There were even other Dreer families that my husband was not related to. If you go on Christoph Stoepel’s “GEOGEN” page you will find most Dreers in Bavaria. It gives the percentage of Dreers from all regions of Germany. The first settlers came 1749 from Württemberg, the Palatine and Oberfranken. Their dialect was definitely Bavarian /Frankish. They always insisted they were not Donauschwowe, but Roamer ‘Deitsche’. Officially they were DS. When we lived in Toronto there were a lot of Rumaer families: Rupp, Nagel, Reinprecht, Dillmetz, Habenschuss, Wolf, Minich, Linzner, Kaufmann, Bornbaum, Bonigut, Schoblocher..... Do you have the two Ruma books. There is a lot of history since the first settlers arrived, but no individual towns or dates of origin. They list all the male residents but no spouses or birth , marriage or death dates. i’m sorry I have no other information. My husband died in seventeen years ago. Anne Dreer In freezing Ontario From: Michael Ewing Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:10 AM To: Anne Dreer Subject: Ruma Connection Hello Anne, I hope you had a wonderful holiday season with your family. It has been a while since we corresponded and in the meanwhile, I have established a DREHER lineage for my family going back to the original Ruma immigrant, Thomas DREER through his son Balthasar. As you surely know, the name was spelled a variety of ways: Dreher, Dreer, Treer, etc. I was wondering if your husband has information on his descent to see how we may connect. Best regards, Mike Ewing ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the first church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by for that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between the Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina Lauterbach's family? Thanks, John Wrbanek -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 children I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig E " Josef Lautenbach Katharina Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann Kaplan VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 Children: Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 Georg VERBONATZ age 33 m. 12 Aug 1793 Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak `Children: Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 Juliana b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 Feb 1811 -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK John (and Beth too), I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents were from elsewhere. I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional research. Thank you and best regards, Mike ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:00:51 -0500 > From: John Wrbanek <[email protected]> > To: "'Rita Schiwanowitsch'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Sorry, I don' t have the family book for Apatin. What I have on > Apatin is from Beth Tolfree, Village Coordinator > (http://www.dvhh.org/apatin), who kindly sent me scans of relevant > pages from the book for my Verbanatz relations. > > My Becker from Apatin is my fourth great-grandmother Elizabeth Becker, > who married a Michael Verbanatz. Though she had several children in > Apatin, I don't know if she is originally from Apatin or if her > parents even were. > Her father was supposedly Joseph, and she would have been born > probably sometime before 1800 (which is a guess on my part). I know > Michael died in Veliskovci, but I know very little of Elizabeth. This > is a foggy part of my tree which I would like to solve at some point. > > John W. > _____ > > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of > John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > > Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of > nearest > generation: > > VELI?KOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balenti?, > Gissinger, Takali? > > BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohm?ller > > GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (?sterreicher), > Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, > Glaser, Oehl > (?ll) > > FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, > Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, > Wituschek (Vitou?ek), etc... > > K?BEKH?ZA: Windbacher > > KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag > > MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, M?ller, Schneider, Oehl (?ll), Knab, > Schulder, Stagl, etc. > > APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, > Lausenbacher?, Keller? > > Of particular interest is information on the families from VELI?KOVCI > and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant > APATIN roots is also always of interest. > > Thanks, > > John Wrbanek > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John, there are many Schmidt families listed in the Familienbuch Mercydorf (Part 1, 1737 - 1843). If you are interested, I can send you copies. Dieter Heidenfelder Am 14.01.2018 um 18:55 schrieb John Schlesinger via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES: > Researching the names: > Schlesinger: > Schock: > Schmidt: > Oster: > > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus