Thank you everyone who has replied to my message! I very much appreciate it! Of course in addition to the possibility that my Dietrich family moved to another village, its also possible that the family died out. If they moved, I have no idea in what village they may have moved to or where to look. Jakob Götz, Jeff Rau, Roy Engel, Eve Brown, and others have checked OSB for villages near Kischker and not found anything. Thanks to all that have already checked thier OSBs! I am left only with my my hypothosis that Johann Burghard Dietrich and Katharina Christina Querin were my Johann and Katharina Dietrich listed in the 1812 Census for Neuburg, Grossliebental District of Odessa, South Russia (now Ukraine). But I have no proof. If I found that the family and many generations lived in another village, it would disproove my hypothesis -- I could move on and look elsewhere. I'd appreciate if everyone could keep open eyes for the family in other villages. Johann Michael Dietrich * 1732 in Hirschfeld, Hunsrück, Pflaz m. Maria Gertraud Hoffmann * Hirschfeld K. Johann Matthias Dietrich * 1764 in Oberkleincih, Hunsrück, Pflaz Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769 Irmenach, Hunsrück, Pfalz Christina Querin's family was one of 12 Catholic families in the early years of Kischker and were listed as Querini (sounds Swiss but no idea where they came from.) the family moved to Kula. This is according to Lorenz's Unforgettable Kischker. Re: Jewish family in Hungary. Lorenz also lists two Jewish families Hirschl, and Spitz, during the early years of Kischker. BTW, I've DNA tested at Ancestry DNA, Family Tree DNA and now MyHeritage DNA. Have uploaded to GEDmatch. The problem is, very few people in Germany have their DNA tested. Well, I know that list member Constanin Gross has tested. I know that some people have privacy concerns with DNA testing, but if you having missing links in your family research its a good way to find important clues. My opinion that is one very important tool in genealogical detective's tool box! Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:26 AM To: mep; John Haumann Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. I find the possibility of connection with Jewish families from the Banat to be very interesting. My wife's family, Liebgott, have been Catholic for as far back as the family records go, to the 1880s, but there are some anomolies. In the HBO television series "Band of Brothers" about WW2, from ten or so years ago, one of the characters was my wife's cousin Joseph Liebgott, who was portrayed as Jewish. I have spent a lot of time on websites related to the TV series trying to "correct" the story that he was Jewish. However, in my genealogical research, I have found an archived record of his membership card in a San Francisco Jewish serviceman's club. Some of his fellow soldiers thought he was Jewish, and he could have been playing off the perception that Liebgott "sounds Jewish" to gain access to another watering hole in which to drink. (We military types take advantage of every opportunity available). Or, he could have been going off some family history (now forgotten) that the family had Jewish roots. Even though I find this unlikely (my father in law, of Joseph Liebgott's generation, certainly had no notion of the family having Jewish roots), I still find the possibility interesting. I would be interested in hearing from anyone else with a Liebgott or Zimmermann connection from the Banat. On 1/15/2018 6:16 PM, mep via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > It might not have been common but it did happen. > > Do not forget Jewish. My maternal line goes back to Deta, Romania to the > 1780's. My great grandmother was from a Jewish family (a brother of hers > changed his surname to a more German sounding name to avoid the > antisemitism of the day). My grandparents was Catholic. This explains the > small percentage of Jewish genes in my DNA. > > Martin > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM, John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Kelly, >> >> I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was >> originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran >> village (Sekitsch). >> >> >> John Haumann >> >> >> ===== >> >> On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone! >>> >>> >>> I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely >> interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been >> familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and >> families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to >> Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the >> Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, >> Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. >>> >>> I do have some questions about all of this: >>> >>> >>> From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben >> ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? >>> >>> I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * >> 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina >> Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more >> information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to >> another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. >>> >>> Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other >> Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or >> information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife >> Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> Kelly >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ernsthausen -Oriold Pardan-Kolling Mary Oriold Dereski > On Jan 16, 2018, at 3:51 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body containing > 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES digest..." > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Christopher Lalier family (Nancy Perry) > 2. Fwd: Apatin (DVHH-L Administrator) > 3. Re: Response to all Roll Call messages. (Kelly Dazet) > 4. Re: Response to all Roll Call messages. (Kelly Dazet) > 5. Re: ROLL CALL (Hans-Dieter Heidenfelder) > 6. Re: GUTWEIN-FEBEL-FEDERMAN - Katy, Schowe (Eve) > 7. Re: GUTWEIN-FEBEL-FEDERMAN - Katy, Schowe (Rose Vetter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:51:32 +0000 (UTC) > From: Nancy Perry <[email protected]> > To: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Christopher Lalier family > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Christopher Lalier was born in 1753 in France and died in 1817?Orzidorf, Banat, Romania.? He married in 1788?Orzidorf, Banat, Romania? ?Anna Mutart. > I am most interested in their son?Petrus Lalier who was born in 1802 in?Orzidorf, Banat, Romania. Petrus (Peter) married?Anna Maria Kiefer in 1826.? Their son?Josef Laljer, born 1826, married?Margarethe Speicher in?Lenauheim, Banat, Romania.?? > > Josef and Margarethe's son?Peter (Laljer) Layer Sr. was born 1853 and arrived in the US about 1903 with his wife?Theresa Altmeyer. They settled in Cincinnati, Ohio.? They are my great great grandparents. > Looking for addition info on the Laiger,?Lalger, Laljer, Layer, and Altmeyer,?Altemeier families.??thanks .. this list has really been so helpfulNancy?? > > > > > ?Nancy Perry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:16:02 -0500 > From: DVHH-L Administrator <[email protected]> > To: DVHH Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Fwd: Apatin > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Forwarding for Joseph Hahn > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joseph Hahn <[email protected]> > Date: 16 January 2018 at 03:17 > Subject: Apatin > To: [email protected] > > > Johann *Hahn *was born in Apatin in 1760, then came 6 generations of "Josef" > *Rieder *and *Lorch *appear in the 19th century > Batschka > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 um 02:22 Uhr > *Von:* "DVHH-L Administrator via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" < > [email protected]> > *An:* "DVHH Mailing List" <[email protected]> > *Betreff:* Re: [DVHH] Fujdala, Frensch, Benej, Mendola, Wegner, Schwartz, > Eisenmann, Pavlova > Forwarding for Paul... > > > >> On 10 January 2018 at 17:41, paul langevin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Here are some names from my tree, Slovakia area of Secovce, Arad area of >> Romania, Ukraine, Poland mystery towns >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 8:22 PM, DVHH-L Administrator via >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> It's that time of year again - ROLL CALL time! >>> >>> Time to list the surnames and the towns you are researching. >>> >>> I will send out an example of a roll call message using my surnames and >>> towns. Yours does not have to look exactly like this, but please make it >>> easy to read. The first 2 examples, by surname or by town are the >> easiest >>> way. >>> >>> The subject line should indicate what is most important to you - in my >>> case, my most important surnames and town. >>> >>> Look forward to hearing from everyone! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> Darlene Dimitrie >>> DVHH-L Email List Administrator >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:16:02 +0000 > From: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> > To: mep <[email protected]>, John Haumann <[email protected]>, > Mark <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. > Message-ID: > <[email protected]od.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you everyone who has replied to my message! I very much appreciate it! > > > Of course in addition to the possibility that my Dietrich family moved to another village, its also possible that the family died out. If they moved, I have no idea in what village they may have moved to or where to look. Jakob G?tz, Jeff Rau, Roy Engel, Eve Brown, and others have checked OSB for villages near Kischker and not found anything. Thanks to all that have already checked thier OSBs! > > > I am left only with my my hypothosis that Johann Burghard Dietrich and Katharina Christina Querin were my Johann and Katharina Dietrich listed in the 1812 Census for Neuburg, Grossliebental District of Odessa, South Russia (now Ukraine). But I have no proof. If I found that the family and many generations lived in another village, it would disproove my hypothesis -- I could move on and look elsewhere. > > > I'd appreciate if everyone could keep open eyes for the family in other villages. > > > Johann Michael Dietrich * 1732 in Hirschfeld, Hunsr?ck, Pflaz > > m. Maria Gertraud Hoffmann * Hirschfeld > > K. Johann Matthias Dietrich * 1764 in Oberkleincih, Hunsr?ck, Pflaz > > Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769 Irmenach, Hunsr?ck, Pfalz > > Christina Querin's family was one of 12 Catholic families in the early years of Kischker and were listed as Querini (sounds Swiss but no idea where they came from.) the family moved to Kula. This is according to Lorenz's Unforgettable Kischker. > > Re: Jewish family in Hungary. Lorenz also lists two Jewish families Hirschl, and Spitz, during the early years of Kischker. > > BTW, I've DNA tested at Ancestry DNA, Family Tree DNA and now MyHeritage DNA. Have uploaded to GEDmatch. The problem is, very few people in Germany have their DNA tested. Well, I know that list member Constanin Gross has tested. I know that some people have privacy concerns with DNA testing, but if you having missing links in your family research its a good way to find important clues. My opinion that is one very important tool in genealogical detective's tool box! > > Kind regards, > > Kelly > > > > ________________________________ > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:26 AM > To: mep; John Haumann > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. > > I find the possibility of connection with Jewish families from the Banat > to be very interesting. My wife's family, Liebgott, have been Catholic > for as far back as the family records go, to the 1880s, but there are > some anomolies. In the HBO television series "Band of Brothers" about > WW2, from ten or so years ago, one of the characters was my wife's > cousin Joseph Liebgott, who was portrayed as Jewish. I have spent a lot > of time on websites related to the TV series trying to "correct" the > story that he was Jewish. However, in my genealogical research, I have > found an archived record of his membership card in a San Francisco > Jewish serviceman's club. Some of his fellow soldiers thought he was > Jewish, and he could have been playing off the perception that Liebgott > "sounds Jewish" to gain access to another watering hole in which to > drink. (We military types take advantage of every opportunity > available). Or, he could have been going off some family history (now > forgotten) that the family had Jewish roots. Even though I find this > unlikely (my father in law, of Joseph Liebgott's generation, certainly > had no notion of the family having Jewish roots), I still find the > possibility interesting. I would be interested in hearing from anyone > else with a Liebgott or Zimmermann connection from the Banat. > > >> On 1/15/2018 6:16 PM, mep via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >> It might not have been common but it did happen. >> >> Do not forget Jewish. My maternal line goes back to Deta, Romania to the >> 1780's. My great grandmother was from a Jewish family (a brother of hers >> changed his surname to a more German sounding name to avoid the >> antisemitism of the day). My grandparents was Catholic. This explains the >> small percentage of Jewish genes in my DNA. >> >> Martin >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM, John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Kelly, >>> >>> I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was >>> originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran >>> village (Sekitsch). >>> >>> >>> John Haumann >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> >>>> On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone! >>>> >>>> >>>> I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely >>> interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been >>> familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and >>> families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to >>> Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the >>> Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, >>> Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. >>>> >>>> I do have some questions about all of this: >>>> >>>> >>>> From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben >>> ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? >>>> >>>> I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * >>> 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina >>> Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more >>> information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to >>> another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other >>> Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or >>> information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife >>> Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Kelly >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:39:24 +0000 > From: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> > To: Rose Mary Keller Hughes <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. > Message-ID: > <[email protected]od.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Rose, > > > Thanks for your message. The topic of inter-denominational marriages is very interesting. I was very surprised to find Lutheran Johann Dietrich marrying Catholic Christina Querin in Kula. I had felt that at that time they may have still though of those of other faiths as "heretics". Not so uncommon now. I was baptized Catholic and my German wife, Lutheran. My mother (a Dietrich of North Dakota) was Lutheran and my father was Catholic. Same with my wife's family in Germany. Her father was Catholic and her mother was Lutheran (Evangelich). > > > I'm surprised at the number of list members here who's family immigrated to Pennsylvania. I thought the majority of Donauschwaben in the USA went to the Cleveland Ohio region. Re: my DNA test on Ancestry.com, I am getting many DNA matches from Pennsylvania -- many from Berks County. I had thought these were people related through the Palatine Migration in the 1700s. Now I'm wondering if some of them are Donauschaben. Of course whenever my DNA matches have many family members born and raised in North and South Dakota, I know they are from my Germans from Russia ancestors. Of course I'm trying to trace them further back to the Batschka and to Germany. BTW, I am getting some matches on my German side which the surname Hughes and I assumse an ancestor married someone with the Hughes surname. > > > Do you have a Semlak family book? Any Dietrichs there? > > > Kind regards, > > > Kelly > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rose Mary Keller Hughes <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:54 AM > To: 'John Haumann'; 'Kelly Dazet' > Subject: RE: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. > > My parents were from Semlak--she was Lutheran and he was Calvinist. They > were married in the US--having come separately to PA. My uncle often said > that if they had remained in Semlak they would not have been married. > Eventually that feeling stopped. It was surprising but then I have heard > that parents haven't been too happy here in the US when their children > married outside their Protestant faith. > > Rose Mary Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John > Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:37 PM > To: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. > > Kelly, > > I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was > originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran > village (Sekitsch). > > > John Haumann > > > ===== > >> On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >> >> Hi everyone! >> >> >> I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely > interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been > familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and > families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to > Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the > Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, > Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. >> >> >> I do have some questions about all of this: >> >> >> From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben ancestors > and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? >> >> >> I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * > 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina > Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more > information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to > another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. >> >> >> Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other > Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or information > about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife Maria Gertraud > Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? >> >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> Kelly > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb1d95f5ec7da4dd59e2d08d55ca59fc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636516788770717865&sdata=DD1EuUvM9qRlzslOsZ8vdTR2PVUJsO70Hev%2FShzEm3A%3D&reserved=0 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:56:32 +0100 > From: Hans-Dieter Heidenfelder <[email protected]> > To: Lynette Nimtz <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] ROLL CALL > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > Lynette, > > in Hans Awender's "Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde > Stephansfeld/Banat, 1796 - 1945" are many families with the name Queiser > and also some Flor, G?nther/Ginter, Roth, Sollmann, Werner and Wilhelm > families listed. If you are interested, I can send you copies out of the > book. > > Best regards > > Dieter Heidenfelder > > >> Am 13.01.2018 um 00:00 schrieb Lynette Nimtz via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES: >> Surnames >> CechnazEppFlorinGunderPeljonQueiser/QuoyserRothSolman/Sohlman/SollmannWernerWilhelm >> Places >> Trier Gro?-BetschkerekModoschStephansfeldKarlsdorfPancevoSt. HubertStetchan >> THANKS SO MUCH. >> Lynette Nimtz Schleusner >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr?ft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:40:25 -0500 > From: Eve <[email protected]> > To: Darlene Dimitrie <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] GUTWEIN-FEBEL-FEDERMAN - Katy, Schowe > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Apparently Maria Febel was the sister to our good family friend Katie > Gerstheimer. I used to babysit their children a very very long time ago. > > Eve > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Darlene Dimitrie via > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oops, I left out the link to Maria Febel nee Gutwein. >> >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx? >> n=maria-febel&pid=187851679 >> >> -- >> Darlene >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >> >> >> >> Darlene Dimitrie wrote: >> >>> Just my two cents about some surnames and towns I've seen go by in the >>> Roll Call. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> --------------- >>> >>> Remembered seeing the name GUTWEIN recently; also there was a lookup >>> back in 2013 about Gutweins in Katy, Yugoslavia. I can't read it >>> because the archives are down. >>> >>> Here is a recent obit for Maria Febel nee Gutwein. She is from KATY. >>> >>> I believe Katy is also known as Katsch/Kac and is today in Serbia just >>> northeast of Novi Sad. >>> >>> I think that the Febel family Maria married into is from Neu Schowe. >>> They are related to a family that one of my cousins married into. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ----------------- >>> >>> >>> Here's another obit that might be of interest, Theresia Federman >>> Febel-Schonherr. She was also married to Josef Federman who died in 1945. >>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx? >>> n=theresia-febel-schonherr&pid=157240982 >>> >>> I remember talking about Federmans in Schowe with Roy Engel at one of >>> the DVHH Southwestern Ontario get-togethers. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> If you go to the Windsor Star obituary site and do a search for all of >>> their entries (goes back to Nov 2002) for the KEYWORD of the surname you >>> are looking for, you can find more members of these families. Make sure >>> to pick "ALL TIME" by the calendar. >>> >>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary- >>> search.aspx?affiliateid=3131&stateid=47 >>> >>> >>> A handy index to all obits (death records) in the Windsor Star can be >>> found at: >>> http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php >>> The years covered are 1938, 1939, 1940 and 1945-now. >>> The date listed is the date it was published in the paper. >>> I can go to the library and pull obits off the microfilm if anyone wants. >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:50:58 -0800 > From: Rose Vetter <[email protected]> > To: Darlene Dimitrie <[email protected]> > Cc: DVHH-L <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] GUTWEIN-FEBEL-FEDERMAN - Katy, Schowe > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I knew a Gutwein family in Winnipeg, Manitoba. I believe they came to > Canada around the late 1920's from the Batschka, don't know which village, > but I know they were Lutherans. They had at least three boys in the family > and old Mr. Gutwein was always hinting I should marry one of them :) > > Here are a couple of links to obituaries of Gutweins which might be helpful > to some of you: > > https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id- > 249367/GUTWEIN_THERESIA > > https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-156937/Peter-Gutwein > > Rose > > On Jan 16, 2018 8:47 AM, "Darlene Dimitrie via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Oops, I left out the link to Maria Febel nee Gutwein. >> >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n >> =maria-febel&pid=187851679 >> >> -- >> Darlene >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >> >> >> Darlene Dimitrie wrote: >> >>> Just my two cents about some surnames and towns I've seen go by in the >>> Roll Call. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> --------------- >>> >>> Remembered seeing the name GUTWEIN recently; also there was a lookup >>> back in 2013 about Gutweins in Katy, Yugoslavia. I can't read it >>> because the archives are down. >>> >>> Here is a recent obit for Maria Febel nee Gutwein. She is from KATY. >>> >>> I believe Katy is also known as Katsch/Kac and is today in Serbia just >>> northeast of Novi Sad. >>> >>> I think that the Febel family Maria married into is from Neu Schowe. >>> They are related to a family that one of my cousins married into. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ----------------- >>> >>> >>> Here's another obit that might be of interest, Theresia Federman >>> Febel-Schonherr. She was also married to Josef Federman who died in 1945. >>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n >>> =theresia-febel-schonherr&pid=157240982 >>> >>> I remember talking about Federmans in Schowe with Roy Engel at one of >>> the DVHH Southwestern Ontario get-togethers. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> If you go to the Windsor Star obituary site and do a search for all of >>> their entries (goes back to Nov 2002) for the KEYWORD of the surname you >>> are looking for, you can find more members of these families. Make sure >>> to pick "ALL TIME" by the calendar. >>> >>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary-search >>> .aspx?affiliateid=3131&stateid=47 >>> >>> >>> A handy index to all obits (death records) in the Windsor Star can be >>> found at: >>> http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php >>> The years covered are 1938, 1939, 1940 and 1945-now. >>> The date listed is the date it was published in the paper. >>> I can go to the library and pull obits off the microfilm if anyone wants. >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 > ******************************************************

Hello Kelly, There are a several pages of Dietrichs in the Bukin Ortssippenbuch. I don’t know if they are related to yours. Would you like me to scan them and send the to you? Anne D.

Hello Kelly, After my mom and dad marriage (Evangelische and Reformierte), mom’s sisters (Evangelische) married 2 Reformierte and 1 Catholic. So, they were all in inter-denominational marriages. I converted to become a Catholic and I asked my mother if that bothered her and her reply was, “oh sweetheart, as long as you believe in God, I don’t care where you go to church.” I often believe (I think I’ve read it somewhere—I would recommend to everyone that if you read something that impresses you, record it somewhere) that there was a kind of travel agent that went from town to town to help those who wanted to immigrate. I can only speak from the small village where my parents (grandparents, etc.) lived . . . they weren’t sophisticated enough to make travel plans—go by train to Fiume, for instance, and to book passage on a ship. So, people from one village were sent to Pennsylvania, for instance, while another village’s people went to North Dakota. Most émigrés from Semlak went to Harrisburg. My grandmother ran a boarding house there and her boarders came from Semlak. I haven’t completely looked at the surnames on my DNA report. There must be Dietrich people on it because I have a small group on my tree (the descendants bring the number of pages in Johann Jacob Dietrich descendants report running to 63 pages for 6 generations—maybe the number of pages will increase as I ask for more generations). I am included in the report when includes Bartolfs (my maternal grandmother’s family). I would be glad to send the descendants’ report if you wish—we will have to do it on a private e-mail. The Dietrichs start on my tree with Johann Jacob Dietrich who was born 1699 in Reichenbach, Germany. He also died there in 1781. The info was garnered from ancestry.com. As for Dietrichs in the Familienbuchen that I have: 1 in Mezöberény 0 in Liebling 0 in Gyoma 1 in Semlak – Johann Jacob born about 1764, his father is Johann Wilhelm, and his wife is Maria Magdalena Who knows . . . we may be cousins. My maiden name was Keller (but in Hungary, Keller was magyarized to Pinczés). My maternal grandmother was a Bartolf and my maternal grandfather was Wagner. My paternal grandmother was Rozsa (Rossinger) and my paternal grandfather was Pinczés (Keller). I married a wonderful man whose surname was Hughes. If you want the 63 pages beginning with Johann Jacob Dietrich born in 1699, let me know privately and I’ll use another internet server to send the large document of 63 pages to you. Best wishes, Rose Mary Keller Hughes From: Kelly Dazet [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:39 PM To: Rose Mary Keller Hughes <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. Hi Rose, Thanks for your message. The topic of inter-denominational marriages is very interesting. I was very surprised to find Lutheran Johann Dietrich marrying Catholic Christina Querin in Kula. I had felt that at that time they may have still though of those of other faiths as "heretics". Not so uncommon now. I was baptized Catholic and my German wife, Lutheran. My mother (a Dietrich of North Dakota) was Lutheran and my father was Catholic. Same with my wife's family in Germany. Her father was Catholic and her mother was Lutheran (Evangelich). I'm surprised at the number of list members here who's family immigrated to Pennsylvania. I thought the majority of Donauschwaben in the USA went to the Cleveland Ohio region. Re: my DNA test on Ancestry.com, I am getting many DNA matches from Pennsylvania -- many from Berks County. I had thought these were people related through the Palatine Migration in the 1700s. Now I'm wondering if some of them are Donauschaben. Of course whenever my DNA matches have many family members born and raised in North and South Dakota, I know they are from my Germans from Russia ancestors. Of course I'm trying to trace them further back to the Batschka and to Germany. BTW, I am getting some matches on my German side which the surname Hughes and I assumse an ancestor married someone with the Hughes surname. Do you have a Semlak family book? Any Dietrichs there? Kind regards, Kelly _____ From: Rose Mary Keller Hughes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:54 AM To: 'John Haumann'; 'Kelly Dazet' Subject: RE: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. My parents were from Semlak--she was Lutheran and he was Calvinist. They were married in the US--having come separately to PA. My uncle often said that if they had remained in Semlak they would not have been married. Eventually that feeling stopped. It was surprising but then I have heard that parents haven't been too happy here in the US when their children married outside their Protestant faith. Rose Mary Hughes -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:37 PM To: Kelly Dazet <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. Kelly, I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran village (Sekitsch). John Haumann ===== On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hi everyone! > > > I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. > > > I do have some questions about all of this: > > > From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? > > > I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. > > > Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. 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Thank you, Daniela! -- Camilla A. Hardee HARDEE PARTNERS, LLC 214.912.6008 [email protected] > On Jan 16, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Daniela hieslmayr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Camilla! > > Viennas records are online for free: > http://data.matricula-online.eu/en/oesterreich/wien/ > The numbers are the districts. > > But Viennas records are a huge lot. I once read the indexes of all districts systemstically searching for an ancestor. It took me several days although German is my mother tongue and I can read Kurrent script. > > If you can get more concrete informations concerning Vienna, it would be helpful. > > And also a thought. If the surname Stenda comes from a German speaking country originally, it is possibly pronounced „Ständer“ or „Staender“ there. > > Good luck for your search! > > Daniela > > Gesendet mit der GMX Mail App > > Am 17.01.18 um 00:03 schrieb Camilla Hardee via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > >> Trying again. >> >> Through ancestry.com, I found the following information on my husband’s great-great grandfather (who immigrated to America in 1904) in Romania, Vital Records: Arad, Bulci, romano-catolici (romisch-katholisch), 1852-1886. >> >> Norbertus Joannes Weigand, baptised January 12, 1870; parents Joannes Weigand and Clementina Stenda. >> >> Additional research shows that Joannes Evangelista Weigand and Clementina had 7 other children baptized in the same church between 1859 and 1872. Joannes E. Weigand, b. 1859; Antonius Weigand, b. 1861; Caroline Weigand, b. 1864; Alexander Weigand, b. 1865. Carolus Josephus Weigand, b. 1866, d. 1920; Francisca Magdalena, b. 1868; Norbertus J., b. 1870, d. 1943 in San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A., and Joanna Clementina, b. 1872. NOTE: Norbertus’ death certificate in America says he was born in Hungary instead of Romania. I assume that is because of border changes over the years. One of his son’s birth certificates specifies that Norbertus was born in Facset, Hungary. >> >> Can anyone offer a) insight into the above information b) death information on any of the above, except Norbertus; and c) suggestions on where to look for Joannes Weigand’s and Clementina Stenda’s birth/death information? I found another document in the United States that says Norbertus’ father was born in Vienna, Austria. Other family stories suggest the Weigands were from Germany. Any information you can provide is appreciated. Thank you. >> >> >> Camilla Hardee >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

448 BARON, Michael * um. .1776 lebt(e) in Deutsch-Zerne ( BARON*, Elisabeth * um. .1781 Kind(er) a) Magdalena t 01.01.1794 Hf + 10.12.1794 in Hf b) Barbara * um.10.1799 Deutsch-Zerne + 25.10.1799 in Deutsch-Zerne c) Franziska t 15.09.1805 Hf d) Johann t 21.12.1807 Hf 449 BARON, Josef * um. .1816 Kleinhäusler ( BOCKMÜLLER, Magdalena Eltern siehe <1020> t 05.01.1818 in Hf Kind(er) a) Theodor * 18.12.1841 Hf b) Margaretha * 13.07.1844 Hf Ehe siehe <9761> c) Elisabeth t 25.06.1847 Hf + 22.06.1848 in Hf d) Barbara t 24.09.1849 Hf + 04.03.1850 in Hf e) Rosalie * 02.11.1854 Hnr 271 450 BARON, Franz * um. .1826 ( 06.03.1848 in Deutsch-Zerne SCHILTZ, Margaretha Eltern siehe <10105> t 19.01.1829 in Hf Fran Matkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Linda Sohl via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 3:52 PM To: DVHH Mailing List Subject: [DVHH] Roll call These are the names I’m focusing on this year: BARON: Deutsch-Zerne, Ernsthausen, Rudolfsgnad, Tschestereg BAUMGARTNER (BAUMGÄRTNER): Hatzfeld, Modosh, Offsenitza, Pardan, Zichydorf BRENNESSEL (BRENESEL, BRENNESEL, BRENESZ, BRENNESZEL, BRENNESL, PRENNESEL): Ernsthausen, Lazarfeld, Rudolfsgnad, Sartscha, Setschan, Tschestereg FAYS (FAY, FAIJ): Grabatz, Pardan HEIM (HEYM, HAIM, HAJM): Marienfeld JERHOFF (JERHOF, GERHOFF): Botosch, Ernsthausen, possibly also Klek, Lazarfeld, Neudorf (Ujfalu), Sartscha, Zichydorf KASSAY (KASSAI, KASZAY): Pardan, Zichydorf KESSLER (KESZLER): Grabatz? LANDGRAF: Modosch LAUFER: Modosch ÖHL (OEL): Marienfeld SAMSON: Ernsthausen, Tschestereg SCHISSLER (SCHÜSSLER): Hatzfeld SOHL (SOLL, SZOHL, SZOL): Gross Gaj, Modosch ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These are BARON from the Deutsch Zerne Familienbuch CD: (Note: Record 533 indicates Michael BARON was born in Hatzfeld (HF) and is in the Hatzfeld Famielienbuch.) Hatzfeld was settled before Deutsch Zerne was founded. 533 BARON Michael, DZ * um 1776 (Q.: FB HF 448) + 26.04.1823 vh BARON Elisabetha * um 1781 + 29.11.1833 DZ 1. Magdalena ~ 01.01.1794 HF + 10.12.1794 HF 2. Barbara * um 10.1799 DZ + 25.10.1799 DZ 3. Franziska ~ 15.09.1805 HF 4. Johann ~ 21.12.1807 HF (Q.: FB HF 448) <536> 5. Josef * 10.03.1810 DZ P.: Josef Kampf, Anna M. Szentess <538> 6. Franziska * 26.10.1812 DZ P.: Anton Schulz, Franziska Weber <5247> 7. Anna M. * 07.04.1815 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Anna M. Samson <12405> 8. Elisabetha * 06.10.1817 DZ P.: Peter Werner, Elisabetha Szeness . Katharina * 08.06.1820 DZ P.: Johann Ohthausen, Katharina Schweininger <399> 534 BARON Mathias * e 1800 + 26.02.1849 DZ Haus Nr. 180 vh K 30.01.1825 DZ (TZ Anton Retzler, Elias Ottavecz) KREMER Anna M. <10510> * e 1806 Haus Nr. 180 1. Franz * 06.05.1826 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Katharina Rutschmann <539> 2. Johann * 10.06.1828 DZ + 27.04.1834 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Elisabetha Lindenbaum 3. Mathias * 15.01.1831 DZ P.: Mathias Schleimer, Barbara Baron 4. Nikolaus * 26.08.1833 DZ + 01.05.1834 DZ P.: Nikolaus Kampf, Katharina Schulz 5. Josef * 18.11.1835 DZ P.: Josef Baron, Maria Anna Kremer <542> 6. Johann * 01.03.1838 DZ + 28.10.1838 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Margaretha Franz 7. Johann * 28.01.1840 DZ P.: Johann Bechtold, Elisabetha Franz <544> 8. Anna * 09.03.1842 DZ + 28.11.1843 DZ P.: Kaspar Fendt, Anna Weiss 9. Peter * 03.07.1844 DZ P.: Peter Fessl, Anna Majer Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Kaspar Fend 10. Michael * 04.09.1846 DZ P.: Michael Schulz, Magdalena Majer <546,9941> 535 BARON Michael * e 1801 +/bgr 26/27.09.1867 DZ Haus Nr. 141 vh K 25.06.1826 DZ (TZ Wendelin Weissmann, Johann Majer) HERGATT Eva <3668.2>, T.v. H. Peter und HARTMANN Elisabetha ~ 28.11.1804 HF +/bgr 15/16.10.1871 DZ 1. Anna * 05.12.1826 DZ + 28.08.1829 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Anna Szenesy 2. Johann * 29.12.1828 DZ + 01.04.1831 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Anna Reichrath 3. Johann * 25.08.1831 DZ + 25.12.1831 DZ, Cholera P.: Johann Wagner, Anna Ottavecz Zwilling von Anton 4. Anton * 25.08.1831 DZ + 26.09.1831 DZ P.: Anton Szentess, Anna M. Kremer Zwilling von Johann 5. Mathias * 11.05.1834 DZ P.: Mathias Baron 6. Konrad * 01.04.1836 DZ + 11.08.1836 DZ P.: Konrad Fiedler, Katharina Kielberger 7. Konrad * 19.08.1837 DZ P.: Konrad Fiedler, Anna Rettmüller <545> 8. Elisabetha * 28.12.1839 DZ P.: Anton Kampf, Elisabetha Franz <543,12287> 9. Anton * 02.04.1842 DZ P.: Anton Kampf, Anna M. Franz <547> 10. Johann * 15.01.1844 DZ P.: Johann Franz, Elisabetha Bungard <548> 11. Mathias * 11.05.1846 DZ + 15.11.1848 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Christina Franz 12. Michael * 16.03.1848 DZ + 24.10.1848 DZ P.: Michael Hergatt, Anna Weissmann 536 BARON Johann <533.4>, S.v. B. Michael und BARON Elisabetha ~ 21.12.1807 HF (Q.: FB HF 448) vh K 08.01.1829 DZ (TZ Johann Tabar, Johann Reichrath) REICHRATH Anna M. * e 1807 1. Anna * e 1833 DZ + 19.08.1836 DZ 537 BARON Mathias * e 1832 DZ +/bgr 07/08.01.1875 SZ/DZ Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Adam Scmidt I. vh ROTH Susanna + vor 1874 II. vh K 03.02.1874 DZ (Witwer, Witwe, TZ Josef Baron, Josef Spitz) EICHLER Anna <10993,10420,1589>, Wiseschdia, SZ * e 1825 Nero Kinder aus 1. Ehe 1. Anna * e 1862 Tschesterlek <1372> 2. Mathias * e 1864 Tschesterlek <553,12018> 538 BARON Josef <533.5>, S.v. B. Michael und BARON Elisabetha * 10.03.1810 DZ I. vh K 31.01.1836 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Baron, Johann Stuprich) KRACH Margaretha <5639.2>, T.v. K. Johann und RETZLER Katharina * 08.03.1811 DZ + 11.08.1936 DZ II. vh K 06.02.1837 DZ (Witwer, ledig, TZ Mathias Baron, Mathias Franzen) BOCKMÜLLER Magdalena ~ 05.01.1818 HF (Q.: FB HF 1020) Tochter aus 2. Ehe 1. Anna * 30.10.1839 DZ P.: Johann Bechtold, Anna Baron <3082> 539 BARON Franz <534.1>, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 06.05.1826 DZ +/bgr 08/09.06.1908 DZ Haus Nr. 41, 451 vh K 06.03.1848 DZ (TZ Franz Kremer, Peter Jost) SCHILTZ Margaretha <9481.1>, T.v. S. Peter und GOKLER Magdalena ~ 19.01.1829 HF (Q.: FB HF 10105) +/bgr 09/11.04.1906 SZ/DZ 1. Mathias * 12.12.1849 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Franziska Rutschmann <540> 2. Johann * 05.02.1852 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Gertrud Franzen <541> 3. Franz */~ 18/19.11.1854 DZ + 29.04.1856 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Magdalena Fendt 4. Katharina */~ 16.03.1857 DZ + 02.09.1860 DZ, Scharlach P.: Peter Krach, Katharina Bambach 5. Michael */~ 19.06.1859 DZ P.: Michael Tabar, Katharina Baron <550> 6. Margaretha */~ 28/29.04.1862 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Margaretha Franz 7. Franz */~ 30.08.1865 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Agnes Hoffmann <554> 8. Elisabetha */~ 21/22.12.1867 DZ +/bgr 18/19.05.1876 DZ P.: Anton Lindenbaum, Elisabetha Neumajer 540 BARON Mathias <539.1>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha * 12.12.1849 DZ + vor 1885 Haus Nr. DZ 97, 79, SZ 809 vh TABAR Barbara <11129.5,541>, T.v. T. Peter und MAYER Anna */~ 18/19.03.1857 DZ 1. Mathias */~ 16.01.1878 DZ +/bgr 17/18.01.1878 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Anna Tabar 2. Michael */~ 20.05.1879 DZ + 20.05.1879 DZ P.: Michael Tabar, Anna Tabar 3. Johann * 29.05.1880 DZ + 29.05.1880 DZ tot geboren 4. Michael */~ 14/15.07.1884 SZ/DZ + 25.11.1884 SZ P.: Michael Baron, Elisabetha Tabar 541 BARON Johann <539.2>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha * 05.02.1852 DZ +/bgr 05/06.05.1942 DZ Haus Nr. 809 vh TABAR Barbara <11129.5,540>, T.v. T. Peter und MAYER Anna */~ 18/19.03.1857 DZ 1. Franz */~ 30.11.1885 SZ + 30.11.1885 SZ P.: Franz Tabar, Margaretha Baron 2. Eva */~ 11/13.03.1887 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Tabar, Eva Tabar <552> 542 BARON Josef <534.5>, Bauer, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 18.11.1835 DZ +/bgr 12/13.02.1911 DZ Haus Nr. DZ 79, SZ 445, Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Johann Mayer vh K 25.04.1858 DZ (ledig, Witwe, TZ Michael Engels, Johann Majer) KAUFMANN Katharina <4786.1,9929>, T.v. K. Theodor und ENGEL Anna Margaretha ~ 19.07.1818 HF (Q.: FB HF 5003) +/bgr 05/07.07.1907 SZ/DZ Haus Nr. 47 1. Margaretha */~ 27/28.03.1860 DZ + 04.04.1860 DZ P.: Dominik Adam, Margaretha Baron 2. Margaretha */~ 15/16.07.1861 DZ + 28.04.1862 DZ P.: Josef Kremer, Margaretha Bell 543 BARON Elisabetha <535.8,12287>, T.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 28.12.1839 DZ +/bgr 09/10.12.1896 SZ/DZ Haus Nr. 141, Firmung 05.06.1855 Patin: Anna Povacsek vh K 06.03.1859 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Schummer, Anton Boracsek) WEBER Friedrich <12287,12265.2>, Bauer, SZ, S.v. W. Heinrich und SCHUMMER Margaretha Tochter von unbekanntem Vater 1. Katharina */~ 21/22.11.1858 DZ P.: Nikolaus Weissmann, Katharina Schummer unehelich Kinder aus Ehe 2. WEBER Jakob */~ 05/06.08.1860 DZ P.: Jakob Schmidt, Anna Schulz <12287.1> 3. WEBER Anna */~ 02.01.1863 DZ P.: Michael Kampf, Anna Prohaszka <12287.2> 4. WEBER Elisabetha */~ 12.02.1865 DZ P.: Adam Marx, Elisabetha Weber <12287.3> 5. WEBER Anton */~ 15/16.08.1868 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Steigerwald, Magdalena Hergatt <12319,12287.4> 6. WEBER Kaspar */~ 04/05.03.1871 SZ/DZ P.: Kaspar Weiss, Anna Buchholz <12287.5> 7. WEBER Johann */~ 06.03.1874 SZ/DZ <12287.6> 8. WEBER Katharina */~ 30.09.1875 SZ/DZ P.: Michael Baron, Katharina Schlotter <12325,12287.7,7292> 9. WEBER Peter */~ 25/26.08.1879 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Schummer, Anna Buchholz <12329,12287.8,425> 544 BARON Johann <534.7>, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 28.01.1840 DZ +/bgr 19/21.03.1916 DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. 272, Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Mathias Reitenbach I. vh K 02.02.1869 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Neidenbach, Anton Schnur) MAYER Margaretha <6869.1>, T.v. M. Peter und STEPHAN Margaretha * e 1844 Lenauheim + vor 1882 II. vh K 11.06.1882 DZ (Witwer, ledig, TZ Johann Rothenbach, Stefan Fromare) DEKREON Margaretha <1819.5>, DZ, T.v. D. Nikolaus und FROMARE Elisabetha * e 1859 Charleville Sohn aus 2. Ehe 1. Johann */~ 25/26.04.1883 DZ + 13.05.1890 DZ P.: Johann Dekreon, Margaretha Baron 545 BARON Konrad <535.7>, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 19.08.1837 DZ Haus Nr. 141, 174, Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Heinrich Weissmann vh K 23.05.1869 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Johann Hergatt, Nikolaus Beroff) THOME Katharina <11429.1>, T.v. THOMA Johann und SCHLEICH Rosalia * e 1849 Triebswetter 1. Margaretha */~ 15.04.1871 DZ P.: Farnz Baron, Margaretha Schäfer 2. Martin */~ 04/06.07.1873 DZ +/bgr 02/03.09.1877 DZ, Diphtherie P.: Martin Hergatt, Katharina Baron 3. Johann */~ 28.02.1876 DZ +/bgr 03/04.03.1876 DZ P.: Johann Westhof, Klara Hergatt 4. Johann */~ 16/20.06.1877 DZ + 23.10.1889 DZ P.: Johann Hergatt, Rosina Schulde 5. Katharina */~ 09.05.1879 DZ P.: Johann Schulde, Katharina Hergatt 6. Rosalia */~ 17/18.11.1881 DZ P.: Johann Hergatt, Rosina Schulde 546 BARON Michael <534.10,9941>, Schneider, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 04.09.1846 DZ +/bgr 04/06.02.1907 SZ/DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. DZ 62, SZ 175, Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Franz Baron vh K 03.02.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Fendt, Joaef Krach) SCHULZ Elisabetha <9941,9917.5>, T.v. S. Nikolaus und ROTHENBACH Anna M. * 20.10.1850 DZ + vor 1907 Firmung 16.09.1864 Patin: Anna Mayer 1. Franz */~ 14.04.1872 DZ P.: Franz Demare, Margaretha Rothenbach ab 10.02.1906, Frau Klara ab 24.06.1906 in Rutherford 2. Margaretha */~ 16.07.1874 DZ +/bgr 14/15.10.1874 DZ P.: Anton Kremer, Margaretha Baron 3. Johann */~ 14.04.1876 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Christina Schulz ab 31.03.1911 in Baltimore 4. Karl */~ 25/27.06.1878 DZ +/bgr 19/20.01.1880 SZ/DZ P.: Karl Dittmann, Eva Wieselmajer 5. Karl */~ 20.12.1880 SZ/DZ + 18.10.1883 SZ P.: Karl Dittmann, Margaretha Baron 6. Peter */~ 14/15.05.1885 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Schissler, Carolina Dittmann 7. Anton */~ 09/11.07.1888 SZ/DZ + 10.12.1889 SZ P.: Anton Hemmerth, Paulina Kremer 547 BARON Anton <535.9>, Taglöhner, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 02.04.1842 DZ +/bgr 15/17.02.1900 DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. 133, 166, Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Michael Hergatt vh K 15.05.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Franz, Peter Grün) BACKES Barbara <227.2>, T.v. B. Nikolaus und KRÄUTER Gertrud * 29.03.1852 DZ +/bgr 01/02.02.1922 DZ, spanische Grippe Firmung 16.09.1864 Patin: Susanna Schäfer 1. BACKES Mathias */~ 30.07.1870 DZ +/bgr 30/31.07.1870 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Anna Schummer 2. Heinrich */~ 08.02.1874 DZ +/bgr 18/19.12.1874 DZ P.: Heinrich Weissmann, Carolina Povacsek 3. Josef */~ 22.10.1875 DZ +/bgr 09/10.11.1876 DZ P.: Josef Görres, Katharina Hergatt 4. Barbara */~ 24/25.12.1877 DZ P.: Peter Backes, Barbara Avender <549,8981> 548 BARON Johann <535.10>, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 15.01.1844 DZ +/bgr 30.09/01.10.1879 DZ Haus Nr. 172, Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Anton Hergatt vh K 15.05.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Jakob Bunghard, Nikolaus Weiss) WEBER Elisabetha <12266.4,12212>, T.v. W. Nikolaus und SERWO Anna Maria * e 1847 Molidorf +/bgr 02/03.08.1901 DZ Firmung 05.06.1855 Patin: Anna Serwo 549 BARON Barbara <547.4,8981>, T.v. B. Anton und BACKES Barbara */~ 24/25.12.1877 DZ Haus Nr. 166 vh RIESINGER Jakob <8981> Tochter von unbekanntem Vater 1. Katharina Elisabetha */~ 21/28.10.1894 DZ P.: Peter Neumajer, Katharina Bungard unehelich 550 BARON Michael <539.5>, Taglöhner, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha */~ 19.06.1859 DZ +/bgr 24/26.11.1932 DZ Haus Nr. DZ 232, 258, SZ 892, 872 vh K 12.09.1880 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Wilhelm Paul, Josef Schmidt) SCHMIDT Katharina <9662.5>, T.v. S. Peter und FARLE Christina */~ 24.01.1861 DZ +/bgr 07/08.03.1944 SZ/DZ 1. Franz */~ 14.12.1880 DZ P.: Franz Schmidt, Barbara Baron <551> 2. Johann */~ 09/10.10.1883 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Anna Schmidt 3. Josef */~ 05/06.12.1884 DZ + 01.02.1906 Baltimore P.: Josef Schmidt, Christina Retzler ab 17.02.1905 in Baltimore 4. Johann */~ 28/29.12.1886 DZ P.: Johann Stuprich, Susanna Fessl <557> 5. Katharina */~ 02/03.12.1888 DZ P.: Peter Schmidt, Katharina Retzler ab 17.02.1905 in Baltimore 6. Margaretha */~ 23/26.07.1891 DZ P.: Peter Schmidt, Margaretha Baron 7. Michael */~ 01/02.11.1893 SZ/DZ +/bgr 26/27.11.1895 SZ/DZ, Diphterie P.: Michael Baron, Magdalena Schmidt 8. Anna */~ 03/04.12.1895 SZ/DZ +/bgr 19/20.10.1896 Sziget-Maj./DZ P.: Nikolaus Fessl, Anna Schmidt 9. Anna */~ 29/31.12.1897 SZ/DZ P.: Nikolaus Hansinger, Anna Schmidt <7909> 10. Barbara */~ 15/16.05.1900 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Barbara Tabar <556,11394> 551 BARON Franz <550.1>, S.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 14.12.1880 DZ lebte 1905-06 und ab 27.08.1907 in Baltimore vh NN Eva, Jahrmarkt 552 BARON Eva <541.2>, T.v. B. Johann und TABAR Barbara */~ 11/13.03.1887 SZ/DZ +/bgr 17/19.04.1908 SZ/DZ SZ Haus Nr. 809, ledig 1. Josef */~ 20/21.03.1908 SZ/DZ +/bgr 21/23.03.1908 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Ackermann, Barbara Weissmann unehelich 553 BARON Mathias <537.2,12018>, S.v. B. Mathias und ROTH Susanna * e 1864 Tschesterlek + 28.05.1930 Chicago (Q.: AQ) Kleinhäusler, SZ Haus Nr. 454, 311, ab 18.05.1905 mit Familie in Chikago vh K 19.11.1888 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Johann Baron, Mathias Kräuter) VERON Franziska <12018,12012.8>, T.v. V. Adam und SEPPELFELD Elisabetha */~ 27/28.10.1865 DZ + 1928 Chicago (Q.: AQ), evt. 1929 1. Anna */~ 21/30.01.1890 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Seppelfeld, Anna Kremer 2. Josef */~ 10/11.02.1891 DZ P.: Josef Wirth, Magdalena Weber 3. Franz * 26.08.1893 Toba (Q.: AQ) <555> 554 BARON Franz <539.7>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha */~ 30.08.1865 DZ vh K 06.06.1892 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Franz Avender, Georg Quitter) SPANN Magdalena <10381.1>, T.v. S. Johann und KÖNIG Elisabetha * e 1869 Johannisfeld 1. Anna Maria */~ 07.01.1893 SZ/DZ + 07.01.1893 SZ 555 BARON Franz <553.3>, S.v. B. Mathias und VERON Franziska * 26.08.1893 Toba (Q.: AQ) + 02.1965 Illinois (Q.: AQ) vh (4 Kinder in Chicago) NN Sophia * um 1897 Österreich (Q.: AQ) 556 BARON Barbara <550.10,11394>, T.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 15/16.05.1900 DZ ledig vh THEISS Johann <11394> Tochter von unbekanntem Vater 1. Anna */~ 24/28.02.1926 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Wolf, Anna Noel geb. Baron unehelich, Firmung 11.05.1938 Tochter aus Ehe 2. THEISS Katharina */~ 19/26.12.1937 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Theiss, Katharina Schulde <11394.1> 557 BARON Johann <550.4>, S.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 28/29.12.1886 DZ ab 31.03.1911 mit Frau in Baltimore vh K 05.02.1911 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Schmidt, Josef Kampf) WEISSMANN Maria <12479.2>, T.v. W. Johann und SCHLEIMER Anna Elisabetha */~ 08/09.08.1893 SZ/DZ Fran Matkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Linda Sohl via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 3:52 PM To: DVHH Mailing List Subject: [DVHH] Roll call These are the names I’m focusing on this year: BARON: Deutsch-Zerne, Ernsthausen, Rudolfsgnad, Tschestereg BAUMGARTNER (BAUMGÄRTNER): Hatzfeld, Modosh, Offsenitza, Pardan, Zichydorf BRENNESSEL (BRENESEL, BRENNESEL, BRENESZ, BRENNESZEL, BRENNESL, PRENNESEL): Ernsthausen, Lazarfeld, Rudolfsgnad, Sartscha, Setschan, Tschestereg FAYS (FAY, FAIJ): Grabatz, Pardan HEIM (HEYM, HAIM, HAJM): Marienfeld JERHOFF (JERHOF, GERHOFF): Botosch, Ernsthausen, possibly also Klek, Lazarfeld, Neudorf (Ujfalu), Sartscha, Zichydorf KASSAY (KASSAI, KASZAY): Pardan, Zichydorf KESSLER (KESZLER): Grabatz? LANDGRAF: Modosch LAUFER: Modosch ÖHL (OEL): Marienfeld SAMSON: Ernsthausen, Tschestereg SCHISSLER (SCHÜSSLER): Hatzfeld SOHL (SOLL, SZOHL, SZOL): Gross Gaj, Modosch ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trying again. Through ancestry.com, I found the following information on my husband’s great-great grandfather (who immigrated to America in 1904) in Romania, Vital Records: Arad, Bulci, romano-catolici (romisch-katholisch), 1852-1886. Norbertus Joannes Weigand, baptised January 12, 1870; parents Joannes Weigand and Clementina Stenda. Additional research shows that Joannes Evangelista Weigand and Clementina had 7 other children baptized in the same church between 1859 and 1872. Joannes E. Weigand, b. 1859; Antonius Weigand, b. 1861; Caroline Weigand, b. 1864; Alexander Weigand, b. 1865. Carolus Josephus Weigand, b. 1866, d. 1920; Francisca Magdalena, b. 1868; Norbertus J., b. 1870, d. 1943 in San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A., and Joanna Clementina, b. 1872. NOTE: Norbertus’ death certificate in America says he was born in Hungary instead of Romania. I assume that is because of border changes over the years. One of his son’s birth certificates specifies that Norbertus was born in Facset, Hungary. Can anyone offer a) insight into the above information b) death information on any of the above, except Norbertus; and c) suggestions on where to look for Joannes Weigand’s and Clementina Stenda’s birth/death information? I found another document in the United States that says Norbertus’ father was born in Vienna, Austria. Other family stories suggest the Weigands were from Germany. Any information you can provide is appreciated. Thank you. Camilla Hardee

Christopher Lalier was born in 1753 in France and died in 1817 Orzidorf, Banat, Romania.  He married in 1788 Orzidorf, Banat, Romania   Anna Mutart. I am most interested in their son Petrus Lalier who was born in 1802 in Orzidorf, Banat, Romania. Petrus (Peter) married Anna Maria Kiefer in 1826.  Their son Josef Laljer, born 1826, married Margarethe Speicher in Lenauheim, Banat, Romania.   Josef and Margarethe's son Peter (Laljer) Layer Sr. was born 1853 and arrived in the US about 1903 with his wife Theresa Altmeyer. They settled in Cincinnati, Ohio.  They are my great great grandparents. Looking for addition info on the Laiger, Lalger, Laljer, Layer, and Altmeyer, Altemeier families.  thanks .. this list has really been so helpfulNancy    Nancy Perry

Hello Dolores! I have 5 pages of Kammerer in the Novo Selo book. I¹ll send pictures of it in a separate e-Mail as attachment. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Am 16.01.18, 16:22 schrieb "DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES on behalf of Dolores Brooks via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" unter <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>: >Hello All: >I am looking for information on the following families: > >Sotin: Brechak > >Novo Selo: Kammerer > >Tovarnik: Hotelich > Keller > >Ruma: Krewedl > (Thomas Krenwaeldl with his wife, Barbara and 2 sons >arrived in Ruma in > 1752. His origins are uncertain.) > >Thank you! >Dolores Krewedl Brooks > > > >Sent from my iPad > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Donauschwaben also went to Cincinnati, Chicago, and Milwaukee. And I’m sure I have missed some places, like Texas. Fran Matkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:39 PM To: Rose Mary Keller Hughes; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. Hi Rose, Thanks for your message. The topic of inter-denominational marriages is very interesting. I was very surprised to find Lutheran Johann Dietrich marrying Catholic Christina Querin in Kula. I had felt that at that time they may have still though of those of other faiths as "heretics". Not so uncommon now. I was baptized Catholic and my German wife, Lutheran. My mother (a Dietrich of North Dakota) was Lutheran and my father was Catholic. Same with my wife's family in Germany. Her father was Catholic and her mother was Lutheran (Evangelich). I'm surprised at the number of list members here who's family immigrated to Pennsylvania. I thought the majority of Donauschwaben in the USA went to the Cleveland Ohio region. Re: my DNA test on Ancestry.com, I am getting many DNA matches from Pennsylvania -- many from Berks County. I had thought these were people related through the Palatine Migration in the 1700s. Now I'm wondering if some of them are Donauschaben. Of course whenever my DNA matches have many family members born and raised in North and South Dakota, I know they are from my Germans from Russia ancestors. Of course I'm trying to trace them further back to the Batschka and to Germany. BTW, I am getting some matches on my German side which the surname Hughes and I assumse an ancestor married someone with the Hughes surname. Do you have a Semlak family book? Any Dietrichs there? Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: Rose Mary Keller Hughes <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:54 AM To: 'John Haumann'; 'Kelly Dazet' Subject: RE: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. My parents were from Semlak--she was Lutheran and he was Calvinist. They were married in the US--having come separately to PA. My uncle often said that if they had remained in Semlak they would not have been married. Eventually that feeling stopped. It was surprising but then I have heard that parents haven't been too happy here in the US when their children married outside their Protestant faith. Rose Mary Hughes -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:37 PM To: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. Kelly, I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran village (Sekitsch). John Haumann ===== On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hi everyone! > > > I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. > > > I do have some questions about all of this: > > > From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? > > > I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. > > > Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? > > > Thank you! > > > Kind regards, > > > Kelly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb1d95f5ec7da4dd59e2d08d55ca59fc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636516788770717865&sdata=DD1EuUvM9qRlzslOsZ8vdTR2PVUJsO70Hev%2FShzEm3A%3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apparently Maria Febel was the sister to our good family friend Katie Gerstheimer. I used to babysit their children a very very long time ago. Eve On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Darlene Dimitrie via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > Oops, I left out the link to Maria Febel nee Gutwein. > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx? > n=maria-febel&pid=187851679 > > -- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > > > > Darlene Dimitrie wrote: > >> Just my two cents about some surnames and towns I've seen go by in the >> Roll Call. >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------------- >> >> Remembered seeing the name GUTWEIN recently; also there was a lookup >> back in 2013 about Gutweins in Katy, Yugoslavia. I can't read it >> because the archives are down. >> >> Here is a recent obit for Maria Febel nee Gutwein. She is from KATY. >> >> I believe Katy is also known as Katsch/Kac and is today in Serbia just >> northeast of Novi Sad. >> >> I think that the Febel family Maria married into is from Neu Schowe. >> They are related to a family that one of my cousins married into. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ----------------- >> >> >> Here's another obit that might be of interest, Theresia Federman >> Febel-Schonherr. She was also married to Josef Federman who died in 1945. >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx? >> n=theresia-febel-schonherr&pid=157240982 >> >> I remember talking about Federmans in Schowe with Roy Engel at one of >> the DVHH Southwestern Ontario get-togethers. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> If you go to the Windsor Star obituary site and do a search for all of >> their entries (goes back to Nov 2002) for the KEYWORD of the surname you >> are looking for, you can find more members of these families. Make sure >> to pick "ALL TIME" by the calendar. >> >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary- >> search.aspx?affiliateid=3131&stateid=47 >> >> >> A handy index to all obits (death records) in the Windsor Star can be >> found at: >> http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php >> The years covered are 1938, 1939, 1940 and 1945-now. >> The date listed is the date it was published in the paper. >> I can go to the library and pull obits off the microfilm if anyone wants. >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Oh thank you! I can‘t believe that I overlooked this or did not have it in my mind long enough. Who does the updates for this list? My books and contact can be added for lookups, if you want. BTW, during the last weeks I found out, many of my e-mails to my American and Australian contacs don‘t pass the spam filters. Beth Tolfree and Rita Schiwanowitsch, I wrote you e-mails (not in the mailing list but directly to your e-mail adresses), please let me know, if they did not reach you. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Gesendet mit der GMX Mail App Am 16.01.18 um 15:11 schrieb Beth Tolfree > Here's a link on the DVHH which lists those who have books and will do look > ups: http://www.dvhh.org/community/reg-lookup-guides.html > > Beth Tolfree > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniela > Hieslmayr via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:18 AM > To: DVHH Mail List > Subject: [DVHH] Look ups > > Hello all! > > What do you think, should we write, who owns wich family books? It may be > helpful to know, who can look up which places. > > I have > Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer Kolonialisten (Stefan Stader) P - SCHA > Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia Bildband > zum Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia > Familienbuch Neudorf in der Batschka (Paul Scherer) ----> Bačko Novo Selo, > Serbia > > If anyone likes to look up somebody, please feel free to ask. > > Liebe Grüße, Daniela > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Daniela, I think it is still a wonderful idea to share who has Family Books that are not on the DVHH Look Up list. I myself have books where none are noted on the list. Below are a list of the books that I own: Jabuka Glogon Pancevo Starcevo Homolitz Banat Brestowatz Opovo Gross Betschkerek Several of these cities also have churchbook images that are now available on FamilySearch. Best Regards, Rita ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Daniela Hieslmayr via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:17 AM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] Look ups Hello all! What do you think, should we write, who owns wich family books? It may be helpful to know, who can look up which places. I have Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer Kolonialisten (Stefan Stader) P - SCHA Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia Bildband zum Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia Familienbuch Neudorf in der Batschka (Paul Scherer) ----> Bačko Novo Selo, Serbia If anyone likes to look up somebody, please feel free to ask. Liebe Grüße, Daniela ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found this on the other list and felt that it needed to be shared here. ________________________________ Roll Call Matyas/Mathias - Glogon Winker/Winger/Wingert - Glogon Muller - Glogon/Borcsa Rausch and Petrovich who married Matyas girls Thank you, Nena Mathews Close ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I knew a Gutwein family in Winnipeg, Manitoba. I believe they came to Canada around the late 1920's from the Batschka, don't know which village, but I know they were Lutherans. They had at least three boys in the family and old Mr. Gutwein was always hinting I should marry one of them :) Here are a couple of links to obituaries of Gutweins which might be helpful to some of you: https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id- 249367/GUTWEIN_THERESIA https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-156937/Peter-Gutwein Rose On Jan 16, 2018 8:47 AM, "Darlene Dimitrie via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" < [email protected]> wrote: > Oops, I left out the link to Maria Febel nee Gutwein. > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n > =maria-febel&pid=187851679 > > -- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > > > Darlene Dimitrie wrote: > >> Just my two cents about some surnames and towns I've seen go by in the >> Roll Call. >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------------- >> >> Remembered seeing the name GUTWEIN recently; also there was a lookup >> back in 2013 about Gutweins in Katy, Yugoslavia. I can't read it >> because the archives are down. >> >> Here is a recent obit for Maria Febel nee Gutwein. She is from KATY. >> >> I believe Katy is also known as Katsch/Kac and is today in Serbia just >> northeast of Novi Sad. >> >> I think that the Febel family Maria married into is from Neu Schowe. >> They are related to a family that one of my cousins married into. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ----------------- >> >> >> Here's another obit that might be of interest, Theresia Federman >> Febel-Schonherr. She was also married to Josef Federman who died in 1945. >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n >> =theresia-febel-schonherr&pid=157240982 >> >> I remember talking about Federmans in Schowe with Roy Engel at one of >> the DVHH Southwestern Ontario get-togethers. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> If you go to the Windsor Star obituary site and do a search for all of >> their entries (goes back to Nov 2002) for the KEYWORD of the surname you >> are looking for, you can find more members of these families. Make sure >> to pick "ALL TIME" by the calendar. >> >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary-search >> .aspx?affiliateid=3131&stateid=47 >> >> >> A handy index to all obits (death records) in the Windsor Star can be >> found at: >> http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php >> The years covered are 1938, 1939, 1940 and 1945-now. >> The date listed is the date it was published in the paper. >> I can go to the library and pull obits off the microfilm if anyone wants. >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Forwarding for Joseph Hahn ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Hahn <[email protected]> Date: 16 January 2018 at 03:17 Subject: Apatin To: [email protected] Johann *Hahn *was born in Apatin in 1760, then came 6 generations of "Josef" *Rieder *and *Lorch *appear in the 19th century Batschka *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 um 02:22 Uhr *Von:* "DVHH-L Administrator via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" < [email protected]> *An:* "DVHH Mailing List" <[email protected]> *Betreff:* Re: [DVHH] Fujdala, Frensch, Benej, Mendola, Wegner, Schwartz, Eisenmann, Pavlova Forwarding for Paul... On 10 January 2018 at 17:41, paul langevin <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are some names from my tree, Slovakia area of Secovce, Arad area of > Romania, Ukraine, Poland mystery towns > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 9, 2018, at 8:22 PM, DVHH-L Administrator via > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > It's that time of year again - ROLL CALL time! > > > > Time to list the surnames and the towns you are researching. > > > > I will send out an example of a roll call message using my surnames and > > towns. Yours does not have to look exactly like this, but please make it > > easy to read. The first 2 examples, by surname or by town are the > easiest > > way. > > > > The subject line should indicate what is most important to you - in my > > case, my most important surnames and town. > > > > Look forward to hearing from everyone! > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Darlene Dimitrie > > DVHH-L Email List Administrator > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oops, I left out the link to Maria Febel nee Gutwein. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n=maria-febel&pid=187851679 -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D Darlene Dimitrie wrote: > Just my two cents about some surnames and towns I've seen go by in the > Roll Call. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Remembered seeing the name GUTWEIN recently; also there was a lookup > back in 2013 about Gutweins in Katy, Yugoslavia. I can't read it > because the archives are down. > > Here is a recent obit for Maria Febel nee Gutwein. She is from KATY. > > I believe Katy is also known as Katsch/Kac and is today in Serbia just > northeast of Novi Sad. > > I think that the Febel family Maria married into is from Neu Schowe. > They are related to a family that one of my cousins married into. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Here's another obit that might be of interest, Theresia Federman > Febel-Schonherr. She was also married to Josef Federman who died in 1945. > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n=theresia-febel-schonherr&pid=157240982 > > I remember talking about Federmans in Schowe with Roy Engel at one of > the DVHH Southwestern Ontario get-togethers. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > If you go to the Windsor Star obituary site and do a search for all of > their entries (goes back to Nov 2002) for the KEYWORD of the surname you > are looking for, you can find more members of these families. Make sure > to pick "ALL TIME" by the calendar. > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary-search.aspx?affiliateid=3131&stateid=47 > > > A handy index to all obits (death records) in the Windsor Star can be > found at: > http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php > The years covered are 1938, 1939, 1940 and 1945-now. > The date listed is the date it was published in the paper. > I can go to the library and pull obits off the microfilm if anyone wants. > >

I have information for 140 Jahre Deutsch-Sartscha and Geschichte and Leben der 100 jahrigen Gemeinde Tschestereg! Let me know if you need someone looked up. Renate Wachter Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Daniela Hieslmayr via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:17 AM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] Look ups Hello all! What do you think, should we write, who owns wich family books? It may be helpful to know, who can look up which places. I have Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer Kolonialisten (Stefan Stader) P - SCHA Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia Bildband zum Heimatbuch der Stadt Weißkirchen im Banat ----> Bela Crkva, Serbia Familienbuch Neudorf in der Batschka (Paul Scherer) ----> Bačko Novo Selo, Serbia If anyone likes to look up somebody, please feel free to ask. Liebe Grüße, Daniela ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All: I am looking for information on the following families: Sotin: Brechak Novo Selo: Kammerer Tovarnik: Hotelich Keller Ruma: Krewedl (Thomas Krenwaeldl with his wife, Barbara and 2 sons arrived in Ruma in 1752. His origins are uncertain.) Thank you! Dolores Krewedl Brooks Sent from my iPad