---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: susan horn <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:31 AM Subject: Horvath, Stefan To: DVHH Webmaster <[email protected]> Good morning! I would like to add Stefan Horvath to my roll call list. There may be two, a father and son, the older of which was married to a Bautz. Thank you!

Well said! Beth Tolfree -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Sohl via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:43 AM To: Bastian Dornbach Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] About lookups and roll calls You make a good point about double-checking things, Bastian. I've had similar experiences with a couple of the family books, where I found questionable information that I was able to correct with help from looking up the KBs. To be fair to the family book authors, the state of the original records isn't always so great - the record keeper's handwriting can be terrible, or the pages are damaged and the record is hard to read at all. Other times, family connections might be missed because a name changed spelling, or the KB itself is inconsistent (especially with changing first names of mothers across the birth records of their children). In those cases, the family book authors are doing the best they can, but it's inevitable some mistakes will creep into the work. Since we have the time and particular focus to explore our own families, we're in the best position to figure out those issues. I like to use the family books as the starting point, and then confirming against the KBs as much as possible. That may be about all we can do until someone invents a time machine, so that we could go back and get the information first hand. ;-) Cheers, Linda On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Bastian Dornbach via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to share some thoughts about all the lookups and roll calls: As convenient as it might look to just receive all information from books, please always be aware that information might not be correct. > > > > From my own experience I know that e.g. the Tschanad Family book has a lot of flaws (wrong date of death, wrong conclusions about parents,.). Furthermore regarding my early ancestors who came from the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations (Germany) into the Banat, the author from the Tschanad Family book just copied the information from Stader, Treude etc. - which was also wrong. > > > > That led to me making wrong assumptions and finally standing there without ancestors, because the people who were supposed to have left Germany to the Banat in 1765 DID NOT leave their home town - and also died there. > > > > There were two people with the same name in the village, who both had a son that also had the same name, both born only four months apart in 1764 (I know! What a coincidence!). > > > > Treude just picked the wrong one, even though the data given in the church books in Tschanad then didn't match with the data from the German church books (e.g. wrong name of my ancestor's wife that also died already in Germany right after giving birth to the son - so there was no way she lived and died in Tschanad then. Furthermore, the name of the wife that died in Tschanad didn't match with the name of the wife in Germany). > > > > Only by going into the church record by myself (better said, with the help of Sorin in Tschanad and an archivist in Germany), I was able to solve the puzzle about who stayed in Germany and went into the Banat. > > > Always keep your eyes open! > > > Bastian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is very good advice for researchers. I, too, have found errors or conflicting information in the village books I use. I try always to remind people that these books are secondary sources composed by an individual or group of individuals reading the original sources - - the actual church registers. There is always room for human error in this process. Beth Tolfree Apatin Village Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bastian Dornbach via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] About lookups and roll calls I would like to share some thoughts about all the lookups and roll calls: As convenient as it might look to just receive all information from books, please always be aware that information might not be correct. >From my own experience I know that e.g. the Tschanad Family book has a lot of flaws (wrong date of death, wrong conclusions about parents,.). Furthermore regarding my early ancestors who came from the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations (Germany) into the Banat, the author from the Tschanad Family book just copied the information from Stader, Treude etc. - which was also wrong. That led to me making wrong assumptions and finally standing there without ancestors, because the people who were supposed to have left Germany to the Banat in 1765 DID NOT leave their home town - and also died there. There were two people with the same name in the village, who both had a son that also had the same name, both born only four months apart in 1764 (I know! What a coincidence!). Treude just picked the wrong one, even though the data given in the church books in Tschanad then didn't match with the data from the German church books (e.g. wrong name of my ancestor's wife that also died already in Germany right after giving birth to the son - so there was no way she lived and died in Tschanad then. Furthermore, the name of the wife that died in Tschanad didn't match with the name of the wife in Germany). Only by going into the church record by myself (better said, with the help of Sorin in Tschanad and an archivist in Germany), I was able to solve the puzzle about who stayed in Germany and went into the Banat. Always keep your eyes open! Bastian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eric, That's a shame about the marriage and death certificates. Just where you'd most expect to see parents' names listed. Have you checked cemetery records? Often those will list parents' names, even if no death certificate exists. You might give that a shot. Was there a Catholic church the family attended in Chicago? Could be another great source opportunity if he had a funeral there. It's possible there's an obit out there as well. I have a few memberships to newspaper databases where I could do some searching. Contact me directly with more details and I would be happy to do a search for you. If all else fails, I recommend Stasa Cvetkovic as a researcher who could help you. My latest (youngest) VOELKER ancestor is Magdalena, daughter of Martin, husband of Adam SCHLENHARDT. She was born say 1815 (still pinning down birth date) in Ruma. So it's outside of the timeframe where it would be relevant for the picture you have - also I have no picture of anyone in this family. Can't remember if I saw you on my Oma's brother's DNA matches for AncestryDNA. If we do match, this would be just one confirmed line where we intersect, but knowing Ruma cousins I have found, there will probably be additional lineal intersections. Best regards, Mike Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 04:34:26 +0000 (UTC) > From: Eric Jiran <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, Michael Ewing > <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] DVHH] RUMA - Felker > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Mike, > > Can you tell me more about your Felker ancestors from Ruma? My > great-grandfather Anton Felker was born in Ruma in 1901 and left for > Chicago in 1921, his mother was Magdelena but we don't know her maiden > name. We don't have a first name for his father. We THINK he was raised > by an aunt and uncle. I have a picture of Anton and some other family > members (I think) taken when he as about 10 or 12 in Ruma. I can send that > to you if you have pictures to compare it with. > > Thanks! > Eric > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 04:48:37 +0000 (UTC) > From: Eric Jiran <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, Michael Ewing > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ruma > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Mike, > > I just saw this e-mail...The parents section only shows "unknown Felker" > for father and "Magdelena" for mother on Anton's death certificate. I also > have a copy his marriage certificate to my great-grandmother from Ruma, and > it lists his mother Magdelena Felker, no father is listed. > > Cheers! > Eric >

Hi Mike, I just saw this e-mail...The parents section only shows "unknown Felker" for father and "Magdelena" for mother on Anton's death certificate. I also have a copy his marriage certificate to my great-grandmother from Ruma, and it lists his mother Magdelena Felker, no father is listed. Cheers! Eric -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1/15/18, Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [DVHH] Ruma To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 15, 2018, 9:17 PM Hello Anne, I have an ever-growing tree of ancestors from Ruma.  The two blue books, "Rumaer Dokumentation, I & II", have been very helpful.  On p. 263 of vol. II the origin of Thomas DREER is given as Dossenheim-Schriesheim, Mittelneckar (this would have been Rheinpfalz at the time, I believe).  On his way to Ruma he stopped in Tolna, Hungary as did many of the early settlers of Ruma who came in the 1740's.  It is my belief that all the DREHERs, DREERs, etc. descend from Thomas based on the writings in these two books.  Contrary to your statement, there is quite a good deal of information on many of the original immigrants, their year of arrival and general (often specific) place of origin.  I would recommend having a look - you may be surprised! Nearly all of the names you list from Toronto are among my ancestors.  My grandmother was a NAGEL and she had great-grandmothers REINPRECHT, MINNICH and BONIGUT. In regard to your comment regarding house names in Ruma, not all families had one.  The NAGELs were one of the biggest families, but there were no house names used. Hello Eric, May seem obvious, but if your great-grandfather Anton FELKER immigrated to Chicago in 1921, have you looked for a death certificate to see if parents are listed?  There ought to be one by that time in that area. Best regards, Mike > > ________________________________ > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of anna dreer via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ruma Connection > > Hello Mike, > There were quite a few Dreers in Ruma. Unfortunately all of the the > ?older? generation is long dead, (those who were adults when they fled). > Do you have the names of other Ruma relatives? > According to  my husband?s family their name was always spelled without > an  h. > There were even other Dreer families that my husband was not related to. > If you go on Christoph Stoepel?s  ?GEOGEN? page you will find most Dreers > in  Bavaria. It gives the percentage of Dreers from all regions  of Germany. > The first settlers came 1749 from W?rttemberg, the Palatine and > Oberfranken.  Their dialect was definitely Bavarian /Frankish. They always > insisted they were not Donauschwowe, but Roamer ?Deitsche?.  Officially > they were DS. When we lived in Toronto there were a lot of Rumaer > families:  Rupp, Nagel, Reinprecht, Dillmetz, Habenschuss, Wolf, Minich, > Linzner, Kaufmann, Bornbaum, Bonigut, Schoblocher..... > > Do you have the two Ruma books. There is a lot of history since the first > settlers arrived, but no individual towns or dates of origin. > They list all the male residents but no spouses or birth , marriage or > death dates. > i?m sorry I have no other information. My husband died in seventeen years > ago. > Anne Dreer > In freezing Ontario > > > From: Michael Ewing > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:10 AM > To: Anne Dreer > Subject: Ruma Connection > > Hello Anne, > > I hope you had a wonderful holiday season with your family.  It has been a > while since we corresponded and in the meanwhile, I have established a > DREHER lineage for my family going back to the original Ruma immigrant, > Thomas DREER through his son Balthasar.  As you surely know, the name was > spelled a variety of ways: Dreher, Dreer, Treer, etc. > > I was wondering if your husband has information on his descent to see how > we may connect. > > Best regards, > Mike Ewing > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:55:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: Eric Jiran <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH]  Roll Call: RUMA - Felker, Hoffman, Pendl, Wolf > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > My great - grandparents were Anton Felker and Eva Hoffman. > Eva's parents were Ivan Hoffman and Elizabeta Pendl. > Elizabeta's parents were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. > > In 1921, Anton & Eva, along with Elizabeta (now Molnar, she was a widower > twice), and Elizabeta's three step children from her marriage with Molnar, > immigrated to Chicago. > > I know nothing of Anton's parent's or family, except that his mother's > first name was Magdelena. > > Cheers! > Eric Jiran > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:44:16 -0500 > From: anna dreer <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Ruma > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="utf-8" > > Hello Eric, > Do you know any of the Wolf descendants? Which house name did your Ana > Wolf?s family have? > > Are you familiar with the house names? In Ruma every family had a ?house > name? The Wolfs we knew in Toronto had the house name ?Paki?.My husband?s > Dreers were  ?Wusl. > His mother?s side was Linzner, but the house name was Reka. > > Anne Dreer > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, Can you tell me more about your Felker ancestors from Ruma? My great-grandfather Anton Felker was born in Ruma in 1901 and left for Chicago in 1921, his mother was Magdelena but we don't know her maiden name. We don't have a first name for his father. We THINK he was raised by an aunt and uncle. I have a picture of Anton and some other family members (I think) taken when he as about 10 or 12 in Ruma. I can send that to you if you have pictures to compare it with. Thanks! Eric -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 1/16/18, Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [DVHH] DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12 To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 10:19 PM Hi Daniela, My wife has Tschida ancestors from Apetlon / Banfalu / Mosonbanfalva, earliest ones I can find so far seem to be Johannes TSCHIDA & Susanna THELL.  Their daughter, Elisabeth, was probably born about 1807 or so and married Josef HEISS 1829 in Apetlon.  I am also investigating the possibility that my REINPRECHT family (from Ruma) originated in Apetlon or in that area. As a point of interest, I also have VOELKER / FELKER and WOLF ancestors but they are from Ruma.  I know at least the VOELKER / FELKER family came from Tolna before they were in Ruma (1748) and before that, they were supposed to be from Heigenbruecken in Mainfranken. I would be interested in connecting with you about any of these families to see if we have a link or can exchange more info.  Ganz natuerlich gerne auch auf Deutsch :) Viele Gruesse Mike > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:31:54 +0100 > From: Daniela Hieslmayr <[email protected]> > To: DVHH Mail List <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018 > Message-ID: <D67BE26A.3E445%[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="ISO-8859-2" > > Hello and Happy New Year from Austria! > > Still my biggest brick wall: Im am especially searching for any information > about my great great grandmother KLARA REHAK, born Somogyi (spelling also > ?omodji). Her son, my great grandfather JOSIP REHAK was born in 1905 in > Ov?ara, Sotin, Croatia. She was a Protestant and married with a > roman-catholic Croat with Hungarian roots. She must have died between 1905 > and 1911, but where? I was not able to locate her marriage, nor her birth > or > death. > I found the birth of her brother S?ndor and the death of her father Mih?ly > in Vukovar, Croatia. > Her parents were Mih?ly Somogyi and Kl?r? Barta from Neusatz / Novi Sad, > now > Serbia. Her grandparents must have been Mih?ly Somogyi and Julianne G?zi > (G?nczi, G?tzi). Biggest problem: The church books of evangelical reformed > Protestants in Novi Sad are nowhere available. > Seems that this line has roots to Mez?t?r, Hungary and Sibrik in today > Slovakia. > > --------------- > > I am also desperately searching for ANY informations about > > 1.) MARGITA (maybe Margareta) REHAK emigrated to the USA. I don't know, if > unmarried or with an other married name > Born between 1900 an 1911, somewhere in the area around Sotin / Vukovar > oder > maybe over the Danube in > Southern Batschka, parents: Karlo (Dragutin) Rehak and Klara Somogyi > > 2.) EVA (Evica) D?IDA (?ida), born 19th Oct 1919 in Sotin, Vukovar-Srijem, > Croatia. > Evica stayed in Vukovar while the rest of her family escaped in WWII. She > was later married (don't know her married name) and had a son. > The family lost the contact in the 1970ies. > > 3.) ?andarmerijski kaplar JOSIP D?IDA, born 18th Nov 1909 in Sotin, > Vukovar-Srijem, Croatia. > Known places of duty in Djakovica and Ko?ane (Ko?anski ?andarmerijski vod > Vardarskog ?andarmerijskog puka / Oct 1939) > > ------------------ > > Other names and regions in my research: > > BANAT > > Bela Crkva / Wei?kirchen / Fehertemplom: > > Ring, Weiss, Kuhn, Philipon (Filibon), Jost, Schmidt, Didier (Dittinger, > Titiger,...), Sauerwald (Sauerwalt), Trautmann, Knecht, Vetter, Zober, > Fischer, Maschek (Matsek), Neukam, Polbecher (Bolbecher, Polpecher), > Lorenz, > L?ffler, Harlacher, Kugler, Wilsbach (Vilzpach), Kaltenbach, Pohl (Pol, > Pool, Poll), Habschied (Habschitt), Klein, Stengelmayr (Stinglmair), > Calatovicz, Spahl, M?ller, Adrian, Zoll, Bitzer (Pfizer), Lorenz, Burger, > Freyd, Neubecker, Streiter, Holzhauser, Engel, Glass, Grill (Krill), Abel, > Heintz, > > > > Gudurica / Kudritz: > Laick (Leick, Leik), Schmidt, Sch?zler, Hirth (Hirt), Haas (Ha?), Jutz > > > > Banatski Karlovac / Karlsdorf: > Ipach, L?w > > > > Vr?ac / Werschetz / Versecz: > Ring > > > **** > > > SLAVONIA > > Sotin (Grabovo, Ov?ara, ?akovci), Vukovar , Sarva?: > Rehak, Dzida (Dsida, Tsida, Tschida, Dschida, Csida, ?ida), ?omogyi > (?omodji), Bartha, Szentivanszki (Sentivansky), Suljagi? (Sulagich, > Szullyaga), Muzer (Muser, Moser), Reichelmajer (Reichmaer, Reichelmaer...), > Horv?th, Felger (Felker, V?lker), Wolf (Volf), Blum (Blumm) > > Tovarnik: > Berdar (Brdar), Szentivanszki (Sentivansky) > > > CROATIA Hrvatska Kostajnica: > Berdar (Brdar), Petrich, Kralyevich, Sumajstorchich (Sumastorich), > Matoszevich, Klaich > > > **** > > HUNGARY (and Batschka now Serbia) > > Apatin > M?ller, Wursthorn, Josits, Moser, V?lker (Felker), Wolf, Zuloki > > M?lyk?t + Baja (Belv?rosi), Csat?lja, Vask?t: > Rehak, Bekes (Berkess), ?gardi, Szab?, Gyetvai, Sar?ssi, L?nyi, Lengy?l > (Lengyel), Horvath > > Be?ej / ?becse: > Rehak, ?gardi > > Ba?ko Novo Selo: > Dzida (Dsida, Tsida, Tschida, Dschida, Csida, ?ida), Horvath > > > Ba? / Bacs: > Szentivanszki (Sentivansky) > > > Czik? (Tolna), Palatincza, Somberek, Bonyh?d: > Horvath, B?t?s (B?jt?s), Dsida (Csida), Harka > > Mosonb?nfalva, now Apetlon, Austria: > Tschida, Wegleutner (Wegleitner), Bauer, Staindl > > > > Liebe Gr??e, > Daniela > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for these and the other records from the Hatzfeld FB, Fran. Michael Baron (born ca 1776) is my 4gGrandfather - his son Johann (b 1807) had a daughter Magdalena in Tschesterg in 1850, and she was my father’s great-grandmother. I didn’t have all the details about the extended family in DZ, though. One thing that remains unclear to me is Michael’s birth date and location. I’ve looked at the Hatzfeld KB online on familysearch, and his birth isn’t recorded any time from 13 Jun 1766 (when the microfilmed records begin) or in the years after, through 1771. There aren’t any other Barons born in Hatzfeld then either. That has me wondering if he really was born in Hatzfeld after all, and if perhaps he wasn’t older than assumed at his death. -Linda On Jan 16, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Fran <[email protected]> wrote: > These are BARON from the Deutsch Zerne Familienbuch CD: > (Note: Record 533 indicates Michael BARON was born in Hatzfeld (HF) and is in the Hatzfeld Famielienbuch.) Hatzfeld was settled before Deutsch Zerne was founded. > > 533 BARON Michael, DZ * um 1776 (Q.: FB HF 448) + 26.04.1823 > vh BARON Elisabetha * um 1781 + 29.11.1833 DZ > 1. Magdalena ~ 01.01.1794 HF + 10.12.1794 HF > 2. Barbara * um 10.1799 DZ + 25.10.1799 DZ > 3. Franziska ~ 15.09.1805 HF > 4. Johann ~ 21.12.1807 HF (Q.: FB HF 448) <536> > 5. Josef * 10.03.1810 DZ P.: Josef Kampf, Anna M. Szentess <538> > 6. Franziska * 26.10.1812 DZ P.: Anton Schulz, Franziska Weber <5247> > 7. Anna M. * 07.04.1815 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Anna M. Samson <12405> > 8. Elisabetha * 06.10.1817 DZ P.: Peter Werner, Elisabetha Szeness > . Katharina * 08.06.1820 DZ P.: Johann Ohthausen, Katharina Schweininger <399> > > 534 BARON Mathias * e 1800 + 26.02.1849 DZ Haus Nr. 180 > vh K 30.01.1825 DZ (TZ Anton Retzler, Elias Ottavecz) KREMER Anna M. <10510> * e 1806 Haus Nr. 180 > 1. Franz * 06.05.1826 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Katharina Rutschmann <539> > 2. Johann * 10.06.1828 DZ + 27.04.1834 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Elisabetha Lindenbaum > 3. Mathias * 15.01.1831 DZ P.: Mathias Schleimer, Barbara Baron > 4. Nikolaus * 26.08.1833 DZ + 01.05.1834 DZ P.: Nikolaus Kampf, Katharina Schulz > 5. Josef * 18.11.1835 DZ P.: Josef Baron, Maria Anna Kremer <542> > 6. Johann * 01.03.1838 DZ + 28.10.1838 DZ P.: Johann Majer, Margaretha Franz > 7. Johann * 28.01.1840 DZ P.: Johann Bechtold, Elisabetha Franz <544> > 8. Anna * 09.03.1842 DZ + 28.11.1843 DZ P.: Kaspar Fendt, Anna Weiss > 9. Peter * 03.07.1844 DZ P.: Peter Fessl, Anna Majer Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Kaspar Fend > 10. Michael * 04.09.1846 DZ P.: Michael Schulz, Magdalena Majer <546,9941> > > 535 BARON Michael * e 1801 +/bgr 26/27.09.1867 DZ Haus Nr. 141 > vh K 25.06.1826 DZ (TZ Wendelin Weissmann, Johann Majer) HERGATT Eva <3668.2>, T.v. H. Peter und HARTMANN Elisabetha ~ 28.11.1804 HF +/bgr 15/16.10.1871 DZ > 1. Anna * 05.12.1826 DZ + 28.08.1829 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Anna Szenesy > 2. Johann * 29.12.1828 DZ + 01.04.1831 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Anna Reichrath > 3. Johann * 25.08.1831 DZ + 25.12.1831 DZ, Cholera P.: Johann Wagner, Anna Ottavecz Zwilling von Anton 4. Anton * 25.08.1831 DZ + 26.09.1831 DZ P.: Anton Szentess, Anna M. Kremer Zwilling von Johann > 5. Mathias * 11.05.1834 DZ P.: Mathias Baron > 6. Konrad * 01.04.1836 DZ + 11.08.1836 DZ P.: Konrad Fiedler, Katharina Kielberger > 7. Konrad * 19.08.1837 DZ P.: Konrad Fiedler, Anna Rettmüller <545> > 8. Elisabetha * 28.12.1839 DZ P.: Anton Kampf, Elisabetha Franz <543,12287> > 9. Anton * 02.04.1842 DZ P.: Anton Kampf, Anna M. Franz <547> > 10. Johann * 15.01.1844 DZ P.: Johann Franz, Elisabetha Bungard <548> > 11. Mathias * 11.05.1846 DZ + 15.11.1848 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Christina Franz > 12. Michael * 16.03.1848 DZ + 24.10.1848 DZ P.: Michael Hergatt, Anna Weissmann > > 536 BARON Johann <533.4>, S.v. B. Michael und BARON Elisabetha ~ 21.12.1807 HF (Q.: FB HF 448) > vh K 08.01.1829 DZ (TZ Johann Tabar, Johann Reichrath) REICHRATH Anna M. * e 1807 > 1. Anna * e 1833 DZ + 19.08.1836 DZ > > 537 BARON Mathias * e 1832 DZ +/bgr 07/08.01.1875 SZ/DZ Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Adam Scmidt > I. vh > ROTH Susanna + vor 1874 II. vh K 03.02.1874 DZ (Witwer, Witwe, TZ Josef Baron, Josef Spitz) EICHLER Anna <10993,10420,1589>, Wiseschdia, SZ * e 1825 Nero > Kinder aus 1. Ehe > 1. Anna * e 1862 Tschesterlek <1372> > 2. Mathias * e 1864 Tschesterlek <553,12018> > > 538 BARON Josef <533.5>, S.v. B. Michael und BARON Elisabetha * 10.03.1810 DZ I. > vh K 31.01.1836 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Baron, Johann Stuprich) > KRACH Margaretha <5639.2>, > T.v. K. Johann und RETZLER Katharina * 08.03.1811 DZ + 11.08.1936 DZ II. > vh K 06.02.1837 DZ (Witwer, ledig, TZ Mathias Baron, Mathias Franzen) > BOCKMÜLLER Magdalena ~ 05.01.1818 HF (Q.: FB HF 1020) > Tochter aus 2. Ehe > 1. Anna * 30.10.1839 DZ P.: Johann Bechtold, Anna Baron <3082> > > 539 BARON Franz <534.1>, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 06.05.1826 DZ +/bgr 08/09.06.1908 DZ Haus Nr. 41, 451 > vh K 06.03.1848 DZ (TZ Franz Kremer, Peter Jost) SCHILTZ > Margaretha <9481.1>, T.v. S. Peter und GOKLER Magdalena ~ 19.01.1829 HF (Q.: FB HF 10105) +/bgr 09/11.04.1906 SZ/DZ > 1. Mathias * 12.12.1849 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Franziska Rutschmann <540> > 2. Johann * 05.02.1852 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Gertrud Franzen <541> > 3. Franz */~ 18/19.11.1854 DZ + 29.04.1856 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Magdalena Fendt > 4. Katharina */~ 16.03.1857 DZ + 02.09.1860 DZ, Scharlach P.: Peter Krach, Katharina Bambach > 5. Michael */~ 19.06.1859 DZ P.: Michael Tabar, Katharina Baron <550> > 6. Margaretha */~ 28/29.04.1862 DZ P.: Johann Kampf, Margaretha Franz > 7. Franz */~ 30.08.1865 DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Agnes Hoffmann <554> > 8. Elisabetha */~ 21/22.12.1867 DZ +/bgr 18/19.05.1876 DZ > P.: Anton Lindenbaum, Elisabetha Neumajer > > 540 BARON Mathias <539.1>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha * 12.12.1849 DZ + vor 1885 Haus Nr. DZ 97, 79, SZ 809 > vh TABAR Barbara <11129.5,541>, T.v. T. Peter und MAYER Anna */~ 18/19.03.1857 DZ > 1. Mathias */~ 16.01.1878 DZ +/bgr 17/18.01.1878 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Anna Tabar > 2. Michael */~ 20.05.1879 DZ + 20.05.1879 DZ P.: Michael Tabar, Anna Tabar > 3. Johann * 29.05.1880 DZ + 29.05.1880 DZ tot geboren > 4. Michael */~ 14/15.07.1884 SZ/DZ + 25.11.1884 SZ P.: Michael Baron, Elisabetha Tabar > > 541 BARON Johann <539.2>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha * 05.02.1852 DZ +/bgr 05/06.05.1942 DZ Haus Nr. 809 vh TABAR Barbara <11129.5,540>, T.v. T. Peter und MAYER Anna */~ 18/19.03.1857 DZ > > 1. Franz */~ 30.11.1885 SZ + 30.11.1885 SZ P.: Franz Tabar, Margaretha Baron 2. Eva */~ 11/13.03.1887 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Tabar, Eva Tabar <552> > > 542 BARON Josef <534.5>, Bauer, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 18.11.1835 DZ +/bgr 12/13.02.1911 DZ Haus Nr. DZ 79, SZ 445, > Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Johann Mayer > vh K 25.04.1858 DZ (ledig, Witwe, TZ Michael Engels, Johann Majer) KAUFMANN Katharina <4786.1,9929>, T.v. K. Theodor und ENGEL Anna Margaretha ~ 19.07.1818 HF (Q.: FB HF 5003) +/bgr 05/07.07.1907 SZ/DZ Haus Nr. 47 > 1. Margaretha */~ 27/28.03.1860 DZ + 04.04.1860 DZ P.: Dominik Adam, Margaretha Baron > 2. Margaretha */~ 15/16.07.1861 DZ + 28.04.1862 DZ P.: Josef Kremer, Margaretha Bell > > 543 BARON Elisabetha <535.8,12287>, T.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 28.12.1839 DZ +/bgr 09/10.12.1896 SZ/DZ Haus Nr. 141, Firmung 05.06.1855 Patin: Anna Povacsek > vh K 06.03.1859 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Schummer, Anton Boracsek) > WEBER Friedrich <12287,12265.2>, Bauer, SZ, S.v. W. Heinrich und SCHUMMER Margaretha > Tochter von unbekanntem Vater > 1. Katharina */~ 21/22.11.1858 DZ P.: Nikolaus Weissmann, Katharina Schummer unehelich Kinder aus Ehe 2. WEBER Jakob */~ 05/06.08.1860 DZ P.: Jakob Schmidt, Anna Schulz <12287.1> > 3. WEBER Anna */~ 02.01.1863 DZ P.: Michael Kampf, Anna Prohaszka <12287.2> > 4. WEBER Elisabetha */~ 12.02.1865 DZ P.: Adam Marx, Elisabetha Weber <12287.3> > 5. WEBER Anton */~ 15/16.08.1868 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Steigerwald, Magdalena Hergatt <12319,12287.4> > 6. WEBER Kaspar */~ 04/05.03.1871 SZ/DZ P.: Kaspar Weiss, Anna Buchholz <12287.5> > 7. WEBER Johann */~ 06.03.1874 SZ/DZ <12287.6> > 8. WEBER Katharina */~ 30.09.1875 SZ/DZ P.: Michael Baron, Katharina Schlotter <12325,12287.7,7292> > 9. WEBER Peter */~ 25/26.08.1879 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Schummer, Anna Buchholz <12329,12287.8,425> > > 544 BARON Johann <534.7>, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 28.01.1840 DZ +/bgr 19/21.03.1916 DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. 272, > Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Mathias Reitenbach I. > vh K 02.02.1869 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Neidenbach, Anton Schnur) > MAYER Margaretha <6869.1>, T.v. M. Peter und STEPHAN Margaretha * e 1844 Lenauheim + vor 1882 > II. vh K 11.06.1882 DZ (Witwer, ledig, TZ Johann Rothenbach, Stefan Fromare) DEKREON Margaretha <1819.5>, DZ, T.v. D. Nikolaus und FROMARE Elisabetha * e 1859 Charleville > Sohn aus 2. Ehe 1. Johann */~ 25/26.04.1883 DZ + 13.05.1890 DZ P.: Johann Dekreon, Margaretha Baron > > 545 BARON Konrad <535.7>, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 19.08.1837 DZ Haus Nr. 141, 174, Firmung 14.09.1845 Pate: Heinrich Weissmann > vh K 23.05.1869 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Johann Hergatt, Nikolaus Beroff) THOME Katharina <11429.1>, T.v. THOMA Johann und SCHLEICH Rosalia * e 1849 Triebswetter > 1. Margaretha */~ 15.04.1871 DZ P.: Farnz Baron, Margaretha Schäfer > 2. Martin */~ 04/06.07.1873 DZ +/bgr 02/03.09.1877 DZ, Diphtherie P.: Martin Hergatt, Katharina Baron > 3. Johann */~ 28.02.1876 DZ +/bgr 03/04.03.1876 DZ P.: Johann Westhof, Klara Hergatt > 4. Johann */~ 16/20.06.1877 DZ + 23.10.1889 DZ P.: Johann Hergatt, Rosina Schulde > 5. Katharina */~ 09.05.1879 DZ P.: Johann Schulde, Katharina Hergatt 6. Rosalia */~ 17/18.11.1881 DZ P.: Johann Hergatt, Rosina Schulde > > 546 BARON Michael <534.10,9941>, Schneider, S.v. B. Mathias und KREMER Anna M. * 04.09.1846 DZ +/bgr 04/06.02.1907 SZ/DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. DZ 62, SZ 175, > Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Franz Baron > vh K 03.02.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Fendt, Joaef Krach) > SCHULZ Elisabetha <9941,9917.5>, T.v. S. Nikolaus und ROTHENBACH Anna M. * 20.10.1850 DZ + vor 1907 Firmung 16.09.1864 Patin: Anna Mayer > 1. Franz */~ 14.04.1872 DZ P.: Franz Demare, Margaretha Rothenbach ab 10.02.1906, Frau Klara ab 24.06.1906 in Rutherford > 2. Margaretha */~ 16.07.1874 DZ +/bgr 14/15.10.1874 DZ P.: Anton Kremer, Margaretha Baron > 3. Johann */~ 14.04.1876 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Christina Schulz ab 31.03.1911 in Baltimore > 4. Karl */~ 25/27.06.1878 DZ +/bgr 19/20.01.1880 SZ/DZ P.: Karl Dittmann, Eva Wieselmajer > 5. Karl */~ 20.12.1880 SZ/DZ + 18.10.1883 SZ P.: Karl Dittmann, Margaretha Baron > 6. Peter */~ 14/15.05.1885 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Schissler, Carolina Dittmann > 7. Anton */~ 09/11.07.1888 SZ/DZ + 10.12.1889 SZ P.: Anton Hemmerth, Paulina Kremer > > 547 BARON Anton <535.9>, Taglöhner, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 02.04.1842 DZ > +/bgr 15/17.02.1900 DZ, Schwindsucht Haus Nr. 133, 166, > Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Michael Hergatt vh K 15.05.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Franz, Peter Grün) BACKES Barbara <227.2>, T.v. B. Nikolaus und KRÄUTER Gertrud * 29.03.1852 DZ +/bgr 01/02.02.1922 DZ, spanische Grippe Firmung 16.09.1864 Patin: Susanna Schäfer > 1. BACKES Mathias */~ 30.07.1870 DZ +/bgr 30/31.07.1870 DZ P.: Mathias Baron, Anna Schummer > 2. Heinrich */~ 08.02.1874 DZ +/bgr 18/19.12.1874 DZ P.: Heinrich Weissmann, Carolina Povacsek > 3. Josef */~ 22.10.1875 DZ +/bgr 09/10.11.1876 DZ P.: Josef Görres, Katharina Hergatt > 4. Barbara */~ 24/25.12.1877 DZ P.: Peter Backes, Barbara Avender <549,8981> > > 548 BARON Johann <535.10>, S.v. B. Michael und HERGATT Eva * 15.01.1844 DZ +/bgr 30.09/01.10.1879 DZ > Haus Nr. 172, > Firmung 05.06.1855 Pate: Anton Hergatt > vh K 15.05.1870 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Jakob Bunghard, Nikolaus Weiss) WEBER Elisabetha <12266.4,12212>, T.v. W. Nikolaus und SERWO Anna Maria * e 1847 Molidorf +/bgr 02/03.08.1901 DZ > Firmung 05.06.1855 Patin: Anna Serwo > 549 BARON Barbara <547.4,8981>, T.v. B. Anton und BACKES Barbara */~ 24/25.12.1877 DZ Haus Nr. 166 vh RIESINGER Jakob <8981> > Tochter von unbekanntem Vater 1. Katharina Elisabetha */~ 21/28.10.1894 DZ P.: Peter Neumajer, Katharina Bungard unehelich > > 550 BARON Michael <539.5>, Taglöhner, > S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha */~ 19.06.1859 DZ +/bgr 24/26.11.1932 DZ Haus Nr. DZ 232, 258, SZ 892, 872 > vh K 12.09.1880 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Wilhelm Paul, Josef Schmidt) SCHMIDT Katharina <9662.5>, T.v. S. Peter und FARLE Christina */~ 24.01.1861 DZ +/bgr 07/08.03.1944 SZ/DZ > 1. Franz */~ 14.12.1880 DZ P.: Franz Schmidt, Barbara Baron <551> > 2. Johann */~ 09/10.10.1883 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Anna Schmidt > 3. Josef */~ 05/06.12.1884 DZ + 01.02.1906 Baltimore P.: Josef Schmidt, Christina Retzler ab 17.02.1905 in Baltimore > 4. Johann */~ 28/29.12.1886 DZ P.: Johann Stuprich, Susanna Fessl <557> > 5. Katharina */~ 02/03.12.1888 DZ P.: Peter Schmidt, Katharina Retzler ab 17.02.1905 in Baltimore > 6. Margaretha */~ 23/26.07.1891 DZ P.: Peter Schmidt, Margaretha Baron > 7. Michael */~ 01/02.11.1893 SZ/DZ +/bgr 26/27.11.1895 SZ/DZ, Diphterie P.: Michael Baron, Magdalena Schmidt > 8. Anna */~ 03/04.12.1895 SZ/DZ +/bgr 19/20.10.1896 Sziget-Maj./DZ P.: Nikolaus Fessl, Anna Schmidt > 9. Anna */~ 29/31.12.1897 SZ/DZ P.: Nikolaus Hansinger, Anna Schmidt <7909> > 10. Barbara */~ 15/16.05.1900 DZ P.: Johann Baron, Barbara Tabar <556,11394> > > 551 BARON Franz <550.1>, S.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 14.12.1880 DZ lebte 1905-06 und ab 27.08.1907 in Baltimore vh NN Eva, Jahrmarkt > > 552 BARON Eva <541.2>, T.v. B. Johann und TABAR Barbara */~ 11/13.03.1887 SZ/DZ +/bgr 17/19.04.1908 SZ/DZ SZ Haus Nr. 809, ledig > 1. Josef */~ 20/21.03.1908 SZ/DZ +/bgr 21/23.03.1908 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Ackermann, Barbara Weissmann unehelich > > 553 > BARON Mathias <537.2,12018>, S.v. B. Mathias und ROTH Susanna * e 1864 Tschesterlek > + 28.05.1930 Chicago (Q.: AQ) Kleinhäusler, SZ Haus Nr. 454, 311, > ab 18.05.1905 mit Familie in Chikago vh K 19.11.1888 DZ > (ledig, ledig, TZ Johann Baron, Mathias Kräuter) > VERON Franziska <12018,12012.8>, T.v. V. Adam und SEPPELFELD Elisabetha */~ 27/28.10.1865 DZ + 1928 Chicago (Q.: AQ), evt. 1929 > 1. Anna */~ 21/30.01.1890 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Seppelfeld, Anna Kremer > 2. Josef */~ 10/11.02.1891 DZ P.: Josef Wirth, Magdalena Weber > 3. Franz * 26.08.1893 Toba (Q.: AQ) <555> > > 554 BARON Franz <539.7>, S.v. B. Franz und SCHILTZ Margaretha */~ 30.08.1865 DZ > vh K 06.06.1892 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Franz Avender, Georg Quitter) > SPANN Magdalena <10381.1>, T.v. S. Johann und KÖNIG Elisabetha * e 1869 Johannisfeld > 1. Anna Maria */~ 07.01.1893 SZ/DZ + 07.01.1893 SZ > > 555 BARON Franz <553.3>, S.v. B. Mathias und VERON Franziska * 26.08.1893 Toba (Q.: AQ) + 02.1965 Illinois (Q.: AQ) > vh (4 Kinder in Chicago) NN Sophia * um 1897 Österreich (Q.: AQ) > > 556 BARON Barbara <550.10,11394>, T.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 15/16.05.1900 DZ ledig vh THEISS Johann <11394> > Tochter von unbekanntem Vater > 1. Anna */~ 24/28.02.1926 SZ/DZ P.: Josef Wolf, Anna Noel geb. Baron unehelich, Firmung 11.05.1938 Tochter aus Ehe > 2. THEISS Katharina */~ 19/26.12.1937 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Theiss, Katharina Schulde <11394.1> > > 557 BARON Johann <550.4>, S.v. B. Michael und SCHMIDT Katharina */~ 28/29.12.1886 DZ ab 31.03.1911 mit Frau in Baltimore vh K 05.02.1911 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Peter Schmidt, Josef Kampf) WEISSMANN Maria <12479.2>, T.v. W. Johann und SCHLEIMER Anna Elisabetha */~ 08/09.08.1893 SZ/DZ > > > Fran Matkovich > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Linda Sohl via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 3:52 PM > To: DVHH Mailing List > Subject: [DVHH] Roll call > > These are the names I’m focusing on this year: > > > BARON: Deutsch-Zerne, Ernsthausen, Rudolfsgnad, Tschestereg > > BAUMGARTNER (BAUMGÄRTNER): Hatzfeld, Modosh, Offsenitza, Pardan, Zichydorf > > BRENNESSEL (BRENESEL, BRENNESEL, BRENESZ, BRENNESZEL, BRENNESL, PRENNESEL): Ernsthausen, Lazarfeld, Rudolfsgnad, Sartscha, Setschan, Tschestereg > > FAYS (FAY, FAIJ): Grabatz, Pardan > > HEIM (HEYM, HAIM, HAJM): Marienfeld > > JERHOFF (JERHOF, GERHOFF): Botosch, Ernsthausen, possibly also Klek, Lazarfeld, Neudorf (Ujfalu), Sartscha, Zichydorf > > KASSAY (KASSAI, KASZAY): Pardan, Zichydorf > > KESSLER (KESZLER): Grabatz? > > LANDGRAF: Modosch > > LAUFER: Modosch > > ÖHL (OEL): Marienfeld > > SAMSON: Ernsthausen, Tschestereg > > SCHISSLER (SCHÜSSLER): Hatzfeld > > SOHL (SOLL, SZOHL, SZOL): Gross Gaj, Modosch > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings! The names I would like to research are: Schaffner,   Leili          Village of Hamroth, also spelled Hamrod Holzli,     Ditzig          Village of Scheindorf (German),  known as Szinfalu (Hungarian) These are all in the Sathmar region. Thank you, Bob Schaffner

Please add Feketitsch and Sekitsch to the list of villages I am responsible for doing look ups for. - Brad Schwebler Sent from my iPhone

HI Greg, As I just explained to Joy, after trying to make a scan, it doesn’t work well, due to the limitations of my scanner and the format (page size) of the Heimatbuch. I lose almost half the page, vertical and horizontal. What does work well is a picture sent by text message, where you can expand to see all the detail. If you want to send me a private message with your mobile number, I will send you a copies of the pages you want. By your area code and email, I guess you’re in Canada, but it should still work. BTW, many of my relatives with a Bogarosch connection live in British Columbia. Dan > On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Greg Aasen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Dan, I just sent a note to the author to buy a CD. Sounds like that might take a while by your comments. > > I have direct ancestors in the book and have a few scanned pages for Karlmann K34 and his son Carlmann K35. > > I’d like to trace a few of their descendants if you have time to scan a few pages for me. > Johann Rothen r170 > Peder Hoch h272 > Phillip Hochlehner h266 > > Thanks > > Greg Aasen > 604-551-5348 > >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Daniel Sedley via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Joy (and Anni and Nick), >> >> Herr Spang had planned to publish the new Familienbuch Bogarosch on CD. It was a work in process for quite a while, I was communicating with him since 2013. For various reasons it eventually came out in hardback. He’s had health problems, but he kindly sent me the new edition a few months back. (Familienbuch Bogarosch in Banat 1768-2017). The Beitz family has entries B0093 through B0125, covering Seiten 32-36. >> >> Joy, I will get copies of these pages to you soon. >> >> Also, I will be happy to provide lookups for others. >> >> Dan Sedley >> >>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Nikolaus Tullius via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Joy, >>> >>> >>> >>> You’re in luck that the FB Bogarosch is still available, as I do not have easy access to reproduce six pages. If you have only a few names and/or dates, I’ll be glad to look them up. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: January 17, 2018 4:35 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Nikolaus Tullius; [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Subject: Bogarosch CD Aw: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Joy >>> >>> >>> >>> you can purchase a CD of the Bogarosch family book, >>> >>> contact the author Ewald Spang: >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> Anni >>> >>> >>> >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 um 19:55 Uhr >>> Von: "Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" <[email protected]> >>> An: "Nikolaus Tullius" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >>> >>> Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. >>> >>> Sincere thanks, >>> >>> Joy >>> >>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Joy, >>>> >>>> I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born >>>> about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to >>>> Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The >>>> Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). >>>> Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of >>>> Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel >>>> in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. >>>> They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. >>>> At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in >>>> Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. >>>> I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. >>>> Good luck in your research! >>>> >>>> Nick Tullius >>>> http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & >>>> Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>>> Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM >>>> To: DVHH Posts >>>> Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >>>> >>>> Hello friends, >>>> >>>> I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >>>> PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these >>>> books? >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance. >>>> >>>> Joy >>>> >>>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Daniel - I would appreciate that greatly, I also have a personal secure fax if that makes it easier or if texting as a picture to my mobile phone is preferred. Just let me know if that helps and I will supply the number(s). I'm in the USA. Kindly know the Beitz / Baitz surname was common mistranslated as Paitz / Peitz and sometime Petz and other surnames as seen below; >>> BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >>> PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) >>> >>> Our aim is to find the connection to Mathais Baitz (entry 88 page 38 Ostern FB) born in 1761 who married in 1783 Elisabeth SPAN/SPANIN in Ostern. The Ostern family book doesn't list where they were born or their parents. Sincere thanks, Joy Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -------- Original Message -------- On January 17, 2018 5:52 PM, Daniel Sedley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Joy (and Anni and Nick), > > Herr Spang had planned to publish the new Familienbuch Bogarosch on CD. It was a work in process for quite a while, I was communicating with him since 2013. For various reasons it eventually came out in hardback. He’s had health problems, but he kindly sent me the new edition a few months back. (Familienbuch Bogarosch in Banat 1768-2017). The Beitz family has entries B0093 through B0125, covering Seiten 32-36. > > Joy, I will get copies of these pages to you soon. > > Also, I will be happy to provide lookups for others. > > Dan Sedley > >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Nikolaus Tullius via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [email protected] wrote: >> Hello Joy, >> You’re in luck that the FB Bogarosch is still available, as I do not have easy access to reproduce six pages. If you have only a few names and/or dates, I’ll be glad to look them up. >> Cheers, >> Nick >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: January 17, 2018 4:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Nikolaus Tullius; [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Bogarosch CD Aw: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >> Hello Joy >> you can purchase a CD of the Bogarosch family book, >> contact the author Ewald Spang: >> [email protected] >> Anni >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 um 19:55 Uhr >> Von: "Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" [email protected] >> An: "Nikolaus Tullius" [email protected] >> Cc: ["[email protected]](mailto:%[email protected])" [email protected], ["[email protected]](mailto:%[email protected])" [email protected] >> Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >> Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. >> Sincere thanks, >> Joy >> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hello Joy, >>> I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born >>> about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to >>> Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The >>> Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). >>> Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of >>> Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel >>> in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. >>> They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. >>> At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in >>> Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. >>> I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. >>> Good luck in your research! >>> Nick Tullius >>> http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & >>> Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>> Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM >>> To: DVHH Posts >>> Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >>> Hello friends, >>> I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >>> PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these >>> books? >>> Thank you in advance. >>> Joy >>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Joy (and Anni and Nick), Herr Spang had planned to publish the new Familienbuch Bogarosch on CD. It was a work in process for quite a while, I was communicating with him since 2013. For various reasons it eventually came out in hardback. He’s had health problems, but he kindly sent me the new edition a few months back. (Familienbuch Bogarosch in Banat 1768-2017). The Beitz family has entries B0093 through B0125, covering Seiten 32-36. Joy, I will get copies of these pages to you soon. Also, I will be happy to provide lookups for others. Dan Sedley > On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Nikolaus Tullius via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Joy, > > > > You’re in luck that the FB Bogarosch is still available, as I do not have easy access to reproduce six pages. If you have only a few names and/or dates, I’ll be glad to look them up. > > Cheers, > > Nick > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: January 17, 2018 4:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Nikolaus Tullius; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Bogarosch CD Aw: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up > > > > Hello Joy > > > > you can purchase a CD of the Bogarosch family book, > > contact the author Ewald Spang: > > [email protected] > > > > Anni > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 um 19:55 Uhr > Von: "Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" <[email protected]> > An: "Nikolaus Tullius" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up > > Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. > > Sincere thanks, > > Joy > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > -------- Original Message -------- > On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Joy, >> >> I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born >> about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to >> Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The >> Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). >> Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of >> Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel >> in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. >> They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. >> At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in >> Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. >> I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. >> Good luck in your research! >> >> Nick Tullius >> http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & >> Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >> Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM >> To: DVHH Posts >> Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >> >> Hello friends, >> >> I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >> PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these >> books? >> >> Thank you in advance. >> >> Joy >> >> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Joy, You’re in luck that the FB Bogarosch is still available, as I do not have easy access to reproduce six pages. If you have only a few names and/or dates, I’ll be glad to look them up. Cheers, Nick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: January 17, 2018 4:35 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Nikolaus Tullius; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Bogarosch CD Aw: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up Hello Joy you can purchase a CD of the Bogarosch family book, contact the author Ewald Spang: [email protected] Anni Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 um 19:55 Uhr Von: "Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" <[email protected]> An: "Nikolaus Tullius" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. Sincere thanks, Joy Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -------- Original Message -------- On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Joy, > > I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born > about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to > Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The > Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). > Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of > Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel > in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. > They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. > At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in > Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. > I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. > Good luck in your research! > > Nick Tullius > http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & > Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM > To: DVHH Posts > Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up > > Hello friends, > > I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, > PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these > books? > > Thank you in advance. > > Joy > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for letting me be part of this group. I have to say I stumbled on it recently. Over 90% of my family emigrated successfully to Philadelphia PA USA. After several years of relative inaction on the family tree, my family and I made a sudden decision to go to Romania and Serbia this fall to visit the towns and cemeteries of our grandparents. Here are my names and their towns: Names - Towns Lux - Bocsar Rausch - Vranyova Szendef - Bocsar, Szolder? Kramer - Bocsar Weldi -Kovacsi Decker - Johannesfeld, Hatzfeld Veger - Sankt Georgen der Bega Biebel - Johannesfeld, Klein Betschkereck, Wittring (now in France) Wirt (Virt) -Ostern Weinhardt - Johannesfeld Nirgarten - Wittring (now in France) Ketzer - Klein Betschkerek Bergman - Wittring? Kapler - Hatzfeld, Flomersheim bei Frankenthal (Rheinland-Pfatz, Germany) Rasilier - Johannesfeld Thanking you in advance for any help you can give. I will help all those I can. Elizabeth Lux

Darlene; Thanks for the response. Unfortunately I do not have anyone in my tree with that name, from Sveti Rok or elsewhere. Karl ________________________________ From: Darlene Dimitrie <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:46 PM To: karl huebchen; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Dreer in Sveti Rok, Croatia Do you recognize the name PASTOVICH from Sveti Rok? -- Darlene https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvhh.org%2Fmembership%2Fassociates.htm%23D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C51762b4f2554424abd8108d55d5cec61%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517576038308332&sdata=b%2FXWbbQ40vaqC5lz3jENoDo2NF4fTmOjRbT0UHz5jVs%3D&reserved=0 karl huebchen via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Does anyone here have information on the person listed below, or know where I can find information? > > I've not had a lot of luck in getting leads here; I wonder if the records have been lost or destroyed, but am still hopeful. > > Thanks in advance of any response. > > > Karl > > ________________________________ > From: karl huebchen <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ruma Connection > > > I am also looking for a Dreer, but from Sveti Rok, Croatia. First name is Maria or Magdalena, born around 1878. She married a Brkich and had a son Ivan (1911-1969), who is my mother's mother's father. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Joy! I have PAITZ Johann, son of Peter Paitz (also Beitz), from „Henzweiler“ / Zweibrückisch, *around 1759, after 1782 in Batschszentivan, died there +14.3.1797 oo 8.1.1782 in Batschszentivan with Maria FUCHS, widow of Josef Müller, daughter of Josef Fuchs and Margaretha, *around 1763, the other children are born in Batschszentivan Josef *28.12.82 Josef Karl *21.3.85 Johann *8.3.88 Jakob *16.3.91 And I have several PETZ from whom I’ll send you a picture of the page in a separate e-Mail. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Am 17.01.18, 14:47 schrieb "DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES on behalf of Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" unter <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>: >Hello friends, > >I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in >these books? > >Thank you in advance. > >Joy > >Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dan, I just sent a note to the author to buy a CD. Sounds like that might take a while by your comments. I have direct ancestors in the book and have a few scanned pages for Karlmann K34 and his son Carlmann K35. I’d like to trace a few of their descendants if you have time to scan a few pages for me. Johann Rothen r170 Peder Hoch h272 Phillip Hochlehner h266 Thanks Greg Aasen 604-551-5348 > On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Daniel Sedley via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Joy (and Anni and Nick), > > Herr Spang had planned to publish the new Familienbuch Bogarosch on CD. It was a work in process for quite a while, I was communicating with him since 2013. For various reasons it eventually came out in hardback. He’s had health problems, but he kindly sent me the new edition a few months back. (Familienbuch Bogarosch in Banat 1768-2017). The Beitz family has entries B0093 through B0125, covering Seiten 32-36. > > Joy, I will get copies of these pages to you soon. > > Also, I will be happy to provide lookups for others. > > Dan Sedley > >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Nikolaus Tullius via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Joy, >> >> >> >> You’re in luck that the FB Bogarosch is still available, as I do not have easy access to reproduce six pages. If you have only a few names and/or dates, I’ll be glad to look them up. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: January 17, 2018 4:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Nikolaus Tullius; [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Bogarosch CD Aw: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >> >> >> >> Hello Joy >> >> >> >> you can purchase a CD of the Bogarosch family book, >> >> contact the author Ewald Spang: >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> Anni >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 um 19:55 Uhr >> Von: "Helmuth & Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" <[email protected]> >> An: "Nikolaus Tullius" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >> >> Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. >> >> Sincere thanks, >> >> Joy >> >> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Joy, >>> >>> I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born >>> about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to >>> Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The >>> Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). >>> Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of >>> Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel >>> in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. >>> They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. >>> At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in >>> Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. >>> I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. >>> Good luck in your research! >>> >>> Nick Tullius >>> http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & >>> Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES >>> Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM >>> To: DVHH Posts >>> Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up >>> >>> Hello friends, >>> >>> I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, >>> PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these >>> books? >>> >>> Thank you in advance. >>> >>> Joy >>> >>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much Nikolaus. I would appreciate it greatly if you could send the six pages of the Beitz line in the FB Bogarosch. I tried to secure this book but it's not currently available. Sincere thanks, Joy Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -------- Original Message -------- On January 17, 2018 9:51 AM, Nikolaus Tullius <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Joy, > > I followed my BEITZ (Peitz) ancestors back to Johann Klaudius BEITZ born > about 1744 in Bühl, "Deutsch Lothringen" (Lorraine). He migrated to > Bogarosch/Bogáros/Bulgăruş in the Banat, where he died in 1787.The > Familienbuch Bogarosch containes six pages of BEITZ (Peitz,Baitz). > Later on, some members of the family moved to the neighbouring village of > Neusiedel/Ujhely/Uihei. My grandmother Katharina BEITZ was born in Neusiedel > in 1883 and married Johann LUKAS from Alexanderhausen/Sandorhaza/Şandra. > They spent about 1912 to 1920 in Cincinnati, Ohio, where my mother was born. > At the time, there were other members of the BEITZ family living in > Cincinnati, some returned to the Banat, while others stayed on. > I have the Familienbuch Bogarosch 1768-2008 by Ewald Spang. > Good luck in your research! > > Nick Tullius > http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helmuth & > Joy via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: January 17, 2018 8:48 AM > To: DVHH Posts > Subject: [DVHH] Stefan Stader Look Up > > Hello friends, > > I'm curious if any BAITZ, BEITZ, (also BEETZ, BEIC, BEIZ, PAICZ, PAITZ, > PAIZ, PAJZ, PEICZ, PEITZ, PEIZ) and SPAN/SPANIN surnames are found in these > books? > > Thank you in advance. > > Joy > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again, Kelly. I hope this gets through. I keep getting a ‘mail error’ message. Anne D. From: anna dreer Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:00 PM To: Kelly Dazet Subject: Re: [DVHH] Dietrich Hi Kelly, I sent 3 pages 215, 216 and 217. The first one was a single one, the other two were in one attachment. Did you get all those? Anne unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message