Hello John, I was also checking in the Banater Akten for my ancestors that came in May 1765 to Vienna. Unfortunately in my case, the information was VERY basic. It only stated “On 5th May 1765 the following people were registered in Vienna and went further to the Temeschwarer Banat:” — followed by a list of people (Name, place of origin). No age, not wives or children, nothing. I had to put the pieces together from the Church records in Tschanad in the Banat and in Oberhundem in Germany. If you need help reading the old German Current font, please let me know. I’d be more than happy to help. :) Bastian ________________________________ From: Joan Mueller <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:41:27 PM To: Kelly Dazet; Glenn Schwartz; [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer Is it possible to trace our Ancestors back from the information on the Banater Akten? Did they need a passport to leave Vienna? Is that traceable? Thank you, Joan ________________________________ From: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:09 PM To: Glenn Schwartz; [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer Thanks Glenn, I can confirm that I have been able to view the cards for the Dietrich families emigrating through Wien to Kischker, Batschka here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library FamilySearch Catalog: Ansiedlerakten, 1686-1855 — FamilySearch.org<https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library> www.familysearch.org<http://www.familysearch.org> Discover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources. Regards, Kelly Dazet Salt Lake City, UT ________________________________ From: Glenn Schwartz <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer The Stader books are an expansion of the Wilhelm and Kallbrenner book which, in turn, is an index to the Banater Akten - a card file of migrants passing through Vienna. If all else fails, the card file is available from the Mormon FHL. I believe it should be online by now. It is interesting to look at the cards for their detailed information. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fzichydorfonline.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbd2fa3ad979f41f88da208d58c271a85%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569021933527950&sdata=d%2FHnYTNiIVUh1XDpr2VZpmxyfhQvqCKrjIjeYUJ7mlY%3D&reserved=0) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/17/2018 9:03 AM, DVHH Mailing List Administrator wrote: > Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. > > Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use > this post to reply to him > > ----------------------------------------------- > Darlene Dimitrie > DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> > Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> > > > > > >From Vienna to the Banat > ------------------------------ > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know > about the years before the immigration to the Banat? > Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there > any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? > Bob Hain (Hein) > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > > Hello Listers, > > Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name > Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, > etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann > Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons > perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Is it possible to trace our Ancestors back from the information on the Banater Akten? Did they need a passport to leave Vienna? Is that traceable? Thank you, Joan ________________________________ From: Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:09 PM To: Glenn Schwartz; [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer Thanks Glenn, I can confirm that I have been able to view the cards for the Dietrich families emigrating through Wien to Kischker, Batschka here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library FamilySearch Catalog: Ansiedlerakten, 1686-1855 — FamilySearch.org<https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library> www.familysearch.org Discover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources. Regards, Kelly Dazet Salt Lake City, UT ________________________________ From: Glenn Schwartz <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer The Stader books are an expansion of the Wilhelm and Kallbrenner book which, in turn, is an index to the Banater Akten - a card file of migrants passing through Vienna. If all else fails, the card file is available from the Mormon FHL. I believe it should be online by now. It is interesting to look at the cards for their detailed information. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fzichydorfonline.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbd2fa3ad979f41f88da208d58c271a85%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569021933527950&sdata=d%2FHnYTNiIVUh1XDpr2VZpmxyfhQvqCKrjIjeYUJ7mlY%3D&reserved=0) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/17/2018 9:03 AM, DVHH Mailing List Administrator wrote: > Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. > > Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use > this post to reply to him > > ----------------------------------------------- > Darlene Dimitrie > DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> > Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> > > > > > >From Vienna to the Banat > ------------------------------ > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know > about the years before the immigration to the Banat? > Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there > any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? > Bob Hain (Hein) > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > > Hello Listers, > > Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name > Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, > etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann > Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons > perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My parents always painted the trunks of their trees white - up until they left their last house in 2007. People always commented as they felt it was a strange thing to do. Eve On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > I lived all o f my 69 years in and around Chicago, and in Uptown the > Germans would whitewash the trees in the parkway, and in their yards. One > day the City workers, actually it was more than a day, came out and cut > down all of the American Elm trees, in an attempt to stop the Dutch Elm > Disease. I haven't seen a whitewash tree since. That was probable in the > late 50's or early 60"s. There is another neighborhood not far from where > I grew up, called Germantown. I should drive around there and look for > whitewash. > > Thank you all for planting this idea in my head. > > > Bob Hain > > > ________________________________ > From: anna dreer <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] Time to whitewash the walls > > We had a special room at our house, too. In DS we called it the > ‘Paradistub’. in High German it means Parade-Stube, translated > ‘display room’. It had a dresser between the two windows and a bed on each > opposing wall and also a wardrobe. It was a guest room for special > occasions. During the war we had to let two German officers use it. > > Anne D. > > > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Thanks Glenn, I can confirm that I have been able to view the cards for the Dietrich families emigrating through Wien to Kischker, Batschka here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library Regards, Kelly Dazet Salt Lake City, UT ________________________________ From: Glenn Schwartz <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: Fwd: Fw: Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer The Stader books are an expansion of the Wilhelm and Kallbrenner book which, in turn, is an index to the Banater Akten - a card file of migrants passing through Vienna. If all else fails, the card file is available from the Mormon FHL. I believe it should be online by now. It is interesting to look at the cards for their detailed information. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fzichydorfonline.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbd2fa3ad979f41f88da208d58c271a85%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569021933527950&sdata=d%2FHnYTNiIVUh1XDpr2VZpmxyfhQvqCKrjIjeYUJ7mlY%3D&reserved=0) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/17/2018 9:03 AM, DVHH Mailing List Administrator wrote: > Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. > > Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use > this post to reply to him > > ----------------------------------------------- > Darlene Dimitrie > DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> > Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> > > > > > >From Vienna to the Banat > ------------------------------ > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know > about the years before the immigration to the Banat? > Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there > any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? > Bob Hain (Hein) > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > > Hello Listers, > > Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name > Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, > etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann > Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons > perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The Stader books are an expansion of the Wilhelm and Kallbrenner book which, in turn, is an index to the Banater Akten - a card file of migrants passing through Vienna. If all else fails, the card file is available from the Mormon FHL. I believe it should be online by now. It is interesting to look at the cards for their detailed information. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/17/2018 9:03 AM, DVHH Mailing List Administrator wrote: > Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. > > Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use > this post to reply to him > > ----------------------------------------------- > Darlene Dimitrie > DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> > Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> > > > > > >From Vienna to the Banat > ------------------------------ > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know > about the years before the immigration to the Banat? > Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there > any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? > Bob Hain (Hein) > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > > Hello Listers, > > Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name > Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, > etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann > Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons > perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

http://www.village-records.org/ShipList/ShipData_list.php There are 3 Kreutzer mentioned in Dave Dreyer’s Ship list. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:03 AM, DVHH Mailing List Administrator <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. > > Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use > this post to reply to him > > ----------------------------------------------- > Darlene Dimitrie > DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> > Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> > > > > > From Vienna to the Banat > ------------------------------ > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know > about the years before the immigration to the Banat? > Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there > any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? > Bob Hain (Hein) > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer > > Hello Listers, > > Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name > Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, > etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann > Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons > perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I lived all o f my 69 years in and around Chicago, and in Uptown the Germans would whitewash the trees in the parkway, and in their yards. One day the City workers, actually it was more than a day, came out and cut down all of the American Elm trees, in an attempt to stop the Dutch Elm Disease. I haven't seen a whitewash tree since. That was probable in the late 50's or early 60"s. There is another neighborhood not far from where I grew up, called Germantown. I should drive around there and look for whitewash. Thank you all for planting this idea in my head. Bob Hain ________________________________ From: anna dreer <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Time to whitewash the walls We had a special room at our house, too. In DS we called it the ‘Paradistub’. in High German it means Parade-Stube, translated ‘display room’. It had a dresser between the two windows and a bed on each opposing wall and also a wardrobe. It was a guest room for special occasions. During the war we had to let two German officers use it. Anne D.

Sorry Robert, I put in the wrong email for you. Let's try this again - forwarding to the list for Bob Hain. Please use this post to reply to him ----------------------------------------------- Darlene Dimitrie DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> From Vienna to the Banat ------------------------------ On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know about the years before the immigration to the Banat? Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? Bob Hain (Hein) ------------------------------ *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < [email protected]> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer Hello Listers, Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. Thanks, Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forwarding this for Bob Hain. ----------------------------------------------- Darlene Dimitrie DVHH-L Mailing List Administrator ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Hain <[email protected]> Date: 17 March 2018 at 10:50 Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer To: DVHH-L List Co-Administrator <[email protected]> From Vienna to the Banat ------------------------------ On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bob Hain <[email protected]> wrote: I have the three volume records of the Glogovatz/Arad. Does anyone know about the years before the immigration to the Banat? Vienna was the launch location to the Danube voyage to the Banat. Is there any records of who and when our ancestors arrived and departed from Vienna? Bob Hain (Hein) ------------------------------ *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < [email protected]> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:55 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* [DVHH] Stader Lookup Request - Kreutzer Hello Listers, Can someone with access to the Stader Sammelwerk please check for the name Kreutzer? I would be interested in all permutations (Kreutzer, Creuzer, etc...) and immigration at any time. Of particular interest is Johann Kreutzer who supposedly immigrated in 1746. Wife perhaps Franziska, sons perhaps Valentin and Johann Georg. Thanks, Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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> On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Hans Kopp <[email protected]> wrote: > > The German settlers in Hungary. > The Batschka during the second great migration perhaps con be used as example of the planing of the German settlement. Baron Anton Von Cothmann was summoned and placed in charge to organize the planing of the villages and towns. > First the villages were located in a north-south, east-west or closed too direction. The houses themselves were planed with the front court (people residence) as well as back court (enamels stables) on the sunny side with all the doors and windows while the shady side had no windows to the neighbors. The lots of the were adjacently located. > So basically the plans had strongly resampled houses in the Palatinate. > The flower and the vegetable gardens were located in the front court with the Schwenkelbrunnen a rainwater pit. In the backcourt one saw horse stables, cow stables and the mist hauled (manure pile) as well as the out house. In addition you had a hambar storage for corn plus storage room for hay and straw for animal feed and bedding as well as the Misthaufen (manure pile) when used up. Between the front and back court was the Einfuhr (roofed space) one could bring a loaded wagon during rain. > There was an attic used to store many items but mostly the grain. In the center of the Einfuhr was an opening about 24X24 provided with a hoist to hoist the various loads. > Ussualy behind the backcourt was usually a winyard with fruit trees but also room for cabage, carrots, parsley, beets or beens ect. > This describes the regular farmhouse. The house for a craftsman was somewhat smaller and and had usually rooms to do his crafts. > The streets run usually straight with one house bordering the other with the church, city hall and schools in the center. > The first houses were build by the settler themselves as the Schwabenpläteen or th Kehlheimer Plätten arrived they had to start building the houses even if it was not their own house. The first houses were build with soil bound with straw and for the roof reed was used. The reason was very simple there were no other material available. The only wood they had was the wood from the ships they came on. There was no woods and Acacia trees had to be played since the acasia grows fast. The dirt for the houses was taken from the center of the house and filled in later with dirt from a Grundloch (ground hole) you could see around the villages later. > The lack of wood is the reason all of the early houses had dirt floors we had discussion on earlier. > All farm land was outside of the town and it was leased from the state. One could have as much land as one could till. A farmer with many sons usually could handle more land. > Later one could purchase the land. > Remember we are speaking of the first settlers here. The land the Germans settled in the Batschka. At that time had a population of six (6) people per sq. km. > > > >> On Mar 15, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Roy Engel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:29 PM, Roy Engel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Glenn, >> I have reviewed my translation by referencing it back to the original German text. On your first point, you are most likely correct that most original settlers moved directly into Kolonistenhäuser that were already built. From what I have learned, many of the original Donauschwaben settlements were built adjacent to existing villages. Hence, there were names such as "Alt Schowe" and "Neu Schowe" to reflect the "old" part of the village and the "new" part. I am not sure, but I suspect that my father's village of Kischker might be somewhat unique in that the village was built on previously undeveloped land. It lies between Vrbas, about 7 km to the north, and Altker, about 4 km to the south. Johann Lorenz writes that the Kischker settlers were billeted in the neighbouring village of NeuWerbaß (New Vrbas) while the villagers built the first houses in Kischker themselves.On your second point, Lorenz writes that the field ovens were constructed using "geschlagenen Steine". Around this wall of stones, "Ausfallziegeln" and clay were used to seal the gaps and then the entire structure was burned to make bricks. I suspect that this was perhaps a method to make stronger building materials than what would have been typical for houses, since the last sentence of my excerpt states that these "bricks" were used to build the church, community hall and the schools. These larger buildings were probably in need of more solid bricks than the typical home, hence the use of broken rocks. I am not an expert about this. I merely attempted to translate the author's writings as accurately as possible and I have no way to know what the author's expertise was nor how accurate his sources were. >> Roy >> >> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:44 PM, Glenn Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Two quick comments that I believe to be true, but cannot speak wuth >> authority: >> >> 1. I do not know the time frame, but, for some time in the early years, >> colonist houses were built by the government and colonists moved into >> completed houses. I wish I could give you a source. >> >> 2. In your second translation, it seems that where you say rocks the >> meaning should be bricks. >> >> Glenn Schwartz >> >> President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) >> Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. >> Email: [email protected] >> >>> On 3/14/2018 10:35 PM, Roy Engel wrote: >>> Greetings List subscribers, >>> There has been an ongoing discussion lately regarding the layout and construction methods for houses that were typical among the Donauschwaben. I am in the process of translating a book about my father's village of Kischker called "Unvergessenes Kischker" (Unforgotten Kischker). This book by Johann Lorenz has quite a bit of detail about house construction. It is my understanding that when the Donauschwaben first settled in the Balkans, they usually built large, long "Kolonistenhäuser" (colonist houses). These were simple houses that were 66 feet long, 18 feet wide and 8 feet high. They had one main room, a kitchen, a pantry and a stable. The walls were made of wood siding which was then covered with plaster. The roof was thatched with reeds and the floors were simply stamped earth. The original settlers were not happy with these primitive homes and had made a request to the monarchy for wooden floors, which was denied.The next generation of houses would be what Donauschwaben alive today would remember from their earlier years. The following two excerpts are translated from the book: >>> The first homes were built with compacted earthen floors and roofs thatched with reeds. In later years, the preferred construction method made use of clay bricks that were dried in the sun. The most recently built houses had walls that were built with bricks that were kiln-fired, coated with plaster and then white-washed with lime. Some houses were finished with coloured cement-based plaster. A typical residential property consisted of a number of structures. Since the lots were much deeper than wide, the houses were relatively narrow, but extended quite far back from the street. Under one roof were the living rooms, kitchen, pantry, tool shed and livestock stalls. Opposite the house stood the summer kitchen. It was separate from the main house because of the high summer heat. In earlier years, a large baking oven was built into the structure, so this kitchen was often called the “Backstube” (bakery). Every yard had a pig stall that stood separate from the other buildings. The gardens were located behind the enclosed yard. Summer life centred around these cozy yards with their covered terraces, which ran along the entire length of the main house. Even the poorer farmers had terraces, which were often adorned with many flowers. The houses were 7 to 10 metres wide and the rooms were very spacious. A living room or kitchen was often 16 to 22 square metres in area. Ceiling heights were never less than 3 metres >>> >>> >>> The first large brick furnace was built in 1892. Prior to this date, all building bricks were manufactured in field ovens. The process of producing such bricks was as follows: Hammered rocks were laid on edge and piled in layers, 5 to 8 cm apart, to a height of 4 metres. The rows of rocks in each layer ran perpendicular to the previous layer. A wall made of thinner rocks was built around this pile and the gaps between the rocks were sealed with clay. Then 8 to 10 “fire holes” where opened in the wall, spaced approximately 2 metres apart. Straw was inserted through the holes and then set ablaze. Bricks made in this fashion were used to build the church, the community hall and the schools. >>> Regards, >>> Roy Engel >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Hello All, Recently I have been reading the messages about the DS homes and farms. In the research I did on my ancestral village of Mucsi in Tolna Megye, I found an article and an image of how a DS farm was set up. It might be of interest to readers here. http://www.dvhh.org/musci/typical_farm.htm Some of what others have written describes certain aspects of this farm model. Look under "Photos" on that page for images of some current homes in Mucsi. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:00 PM, anna dreer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Darlene, > In the Lowas book there is a step by step description of how the DS > houses were built : ‘gestampft’. I could translate it, but it is nearly > two pages long. Even with editing and shortening it it would still be more > than a printed page. It would be a shame to have such information lost! > What would you suggest? > Anne Dreer > > -- *________________* "Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

Ver interesting. Thanks! This sounds like it would make a great presentation at our next get together!! > On Mar 15, 2018, at 12:35 AM, Roy Engel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings List subscribers, > There has been an ongoing discussion lately regarding the layout and construction methods for houses that were typical among the Donauschwaben. I am in the process of translating a book about my father's village of Kischker called "Unvergessenes Kischker" (Unforgotten Kischker). This book by Johann Lorenz has quite a bit of detail about house construction. It is my understanding that when the Donauschwaben first settled in the Balkans, they usually built large, long "Kolonistenhäuser" (colonist houses). These were simple houses that were 66 feet long, 18 feet wide and 8 feet high. They had one main room, a kitchen, a pantry and a stable. The walls were made of wood siding which was then covered with plaster. The roof was thatched with reeds and the floors were simply stamped earth. The original settlers were not happy with these primitive homes and had made a request to the monarchy for wooden floors, which was denied.The next generation of houses would be what Donauschwaben alive today would remember from their earlier years. The following two excerpts are translated from the book: > The first homes were built with compacted earthen floors and roofs thatched with reeds. In later years, the preferred construction method made use of clay bricks that were dried in the sun. The most recently built houses had walls that were built with bricks that were kiln-fired, coated with plaster and then white-washed with lime. Some houses were finished with coloured cement-based plaster. A typical residential property consisted of a number of structures. Since the lots were much deeper than wide, the houses were relatively narrow, but extended quite far back from the street. Under one roof were the living rooms, kitchen, pantry, tool shed and livestock stalls. Opposite the house stood the summer kitchen. It was separate from the main house because of the high summer heat. In earlier years, a large baking oven was built into the structure, so this kitchen was often called the “Backstube” (bakery). Every yard had a pig stall that stood separate from the other buildings. The gardens were located behind the enclosed yard. Summer life centred around these cozy yards with their covered terraces, which ran along the entire length of the main house. Even the poorer farmers had terraces, which were often adorned with many flowers. The houses were 7 to 10 metres wide and the rooms were very spacious. A living room or kitchen was often 16 to 22 square metres in area. Ceiling heights were never less than 3 metres > > > The first large brick furnace was built in 1892. Prior to this date, all building bricks were manufactured in field ovens. The process of producing such bricks was as follows: Hammered rocks were laid on edge and piled in layers, 5 to 8 cm apart, to a height of 4 metres. The rows of rocks in each layer ran perpendicular to the previous layer. A wall made of thinner rocks was built around this pile and the gaps between the rocks were sealed with clay. Then 8 to 10 “fire holes” where opened in the wall, spaced approximately 2 metres apart. Straw was inserted through the holes and then set ablaze. Bricks made in this fashion were used to build the church, the community hall and the schools. > Regards, > Roy Engel >

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:29 PM, Roy Engel <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Glenn, I have reviewed my translation by referencing it back to the original German text.  On your first point, you are most likely correct that most original settlers moved directly into Kolonistenhäuser that were already built.  From what I have learned, many of the original Donauschwaben settlements were built adjacent to existing villages.  Hence, there were names such as "Alt Schowe" and "Neu Schowe" to reflect the "old" part of the village and the "new" part.  I am not sure, but I suspect that my father's village of Kischker might be somewhat unique in that the village was built on previously undeveloped land. It lies between Vrbas, about 7 km to the north, and Altker, about 4 km to the south.  Johann Lorenz writes that the Kischker settlers were billeted in the neighbouring village of NeuWerbaß (New Vrbas) while the villagers built the first houses in Kischker themselves.On your second point, Lorenz writes that the field ovens were constructed using "geschlagenen Steine".  Around this wall of stones, "Ausfallziegeln" and clay were used to seal the gaps and then the entire structure was burned to make bricks.  I suspect that this was perhaps a method to make stronger building materials than what would have been typical for houses, since the last sentence of my excerpt states that these "bricks" were used to build the church, community hall and the schools.  These larger buildings were probably in need of more solid bricks than the typical home, hence the use of broken rocks.  I am not an expert about this.  I merely attempted to translate the author's writings as accurately as possible and I have no way to know what the author's expertise was nor how accurate his sources were. Roy On Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:44 PM, Glenn Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote: Two quick comments that I believe to be true, but cannot speak wuth authority: 1. I do not know the time frame, but, for some time in the early years, colonist houses were built by the government and colonists moved into completed houses. I wish I could give you a source. 2. In your second translation, it seems that where you say rocks the meaning should be bricks. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/14/2018 10:35 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > Greetings List subscribers, > There has been an ongoing discussion lately regarding the layout and construction methods for houses that were typical among the Donauschwaben.  I am in the process of translating a book about my father's village of Kischker called "Unvergessenes Kischker" (Unforgotten Kischker).  This book by Johann Lorenz has quite a bit of detail about house construction.  It is my understanding that when the Donauschwaben first settled in the Balkans, they usually built large, long "Kolonistenhäuser" (colonist houses).  These were simple houses that were 66 feet long, 18 feet wide and 8 feet high.  They had one main room, a kitchen, a pantry and a stable.  The walls were made of wood siding which was then covered with plaster.  The roof was thatched with reeds and the floors were simply stamped earth.  The original settlers were not happy with these primitive homes and had made a request to the monarchy for wooden floors, which was denied.The next generation of houses would be what Donauschwaben alive today would remember from their earlier years.  The following two excerpts are translated from the book: >   The first homes were built with compacted earthen floors and roofs thatched with reeds.  In later years, the preferred construction method made use of clay bricks that were dried in the sun.  The most recently built houses had walls that were built with bricks that were kiln-fired, coated with plaster and then white-washed with lime.  Some houses were finished with coloured cement-based plaster.  A typical residential property consisted of a number of structures.  Since the lots were much deeper than wide, the houses were relatively narrow, but extended quite far back from the street.  Under one roof were the living rooms, kitchen, pantry, tool shed and livestock stalls.  Opposite the house stood the summer kitchen.  It was separate from the main house because of the high summer heat.  In earlier years, a large baking oven was built into the structure, so this kitchen was often called the “Backstube” (bakery).  Every yard had a pig stall that stood separate from the other buildings.  The gardens were located behind the enclosed yard.  Summer life centred around these cozy yards with their covered terraces, which ran along the entire length of the main house.  Even the poorer farmers had terraces, which were often adorned with many flowers.  The houses were 7 to 10 metres wide and the rooms were very spacious.  A living room or kitchen was often 16 to 22 square metres in area.  Ceiling heights were never less than 3 metres > > > The first large brick furnace was built in 1892.  Prior to this date, all building bricks were manufactured in field ovens.  The process of producing such bricks was as follows:  Hammered rocks were laid on edge and piled in layers, 5 to 8 cm apart, to a height of 4 metres. The rows of rocks in each layer ran perpendicular to the previous layer.  A wall made of thinner rocks was built around this pile and the gaps between the rocks were sealed with clay.  Then 8 to 10 “fire holes” where opened in the wall, spaced approximately 2 metres apart.  Straw was inserted through the holes and then set ablaze.  Bricks made in this fashion were used to build the church, the community hall and the schools. > Regards, > Roy Engel > >

Sincere congratulations to our long time member Anne Dreer for her exceptionally and extensive written article about the work of our women. She was ably to give us a very detailed and extended view of the daily work of our mothers. I too remember my mothers work. Naturally as a child I did not fully comprehend her daily chores but have seen my things of a women's work. When we came to the USA she would talk many time that she is actually very glad that she was in America and how much easier her work is here. Although she regretted it at times since she missed her friends and the many family members as well as the time to sit on the Gass (street) after the Sunday's dinner chatting about all the news stories till feeding time at 4:00pm when the cows came home from The Hutweide (commune meadows) I have seen a lot but as a child you just do not know how difficult it was for her and all of our women. I am very glad you could use so many pictures from my collection. Thank you. Viele Grüße Hans Kopp. > On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:10 PM, anna dreer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Jody, > Anne > > -----Original Message----- From: jodymckimpharr > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:09 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) ; [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Time to whitewash the walls > > One of my favorite stories was written by you Anne! > http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/society/village-life/busy-ds-women-a-dreer.htm > Jody > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E > -------- Original message --------From: anna dreer <[email protected]> Date: 3/13/18 3:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Time to whitewash the walls > Hello Darlene, > In the Lowas book there is a step by step description of how the DS houses were built : ‘gestampft’. I could translate it, but it is nearly two pages long. Even with editing and shortening it it would still be more than a printed page. It would be a shame to have such information lost! > What would you suggest? > Anne Dreer > >

Thank you, Roy1 This really brings the villages to life in my imagination. Its these small details which make the past seem more real! Susan On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:35 AM, Roy Engel <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings List subscribers, > There has been an ongoing discussion lately regarding the layout and > construction methods for houses that were typical among the Donauschwaben. > I am in the process of translating a book about my father's village of > Kischker called "Unvergessenes Kischker" (Unforgotten Kischker). This book > by Johann Lorenz has quite a bit of detail about house construction. It is > my understanding that when the Donauschwaben first settled in the Balkans, > they usually built large, long "Kolonistenhäuser" (colonist houses). These > were simple houses that were 66 feet long, 18 feet wide and 8 feet high. > They had one main room, a kitchen, a pantry and a stable. The walls were > made of wood siding which was then covered with plaster. The roof was > thatched with reeds and the floors were simply stamped earth. The original > settlers were not happy with these primitive homes and had made a request > to the monarchy for wooden floors, which was denied.The next generation of > houses would be what Donauschwaben alive today would remember from their > earlier years. The following two excerpts are translated from the book: > The first homes were built with compacted earthen floors and roofs > thatched with reeds. In later years, the preferred construction method > made use of clay bricks that were dried in the sun. The most recently > built houses had walls that were built with bricks that were kiln-fired, > coated with plaster and then white-washed with lime. Some houses were > finished with coloured cement-based plaster. A typical residential > property consisted of a number of structures. Since the lots were much > deeper than wide, the houses were relatively narrow, but extended quite far > back from the street. Under one roof were the living rooms, kitchen, > pantry, tool shed and livestock stalls. Opposite the house stood the > summer kitchen. It was separate from the main house because of the high > summer heat. In earlier years, a large baking oven was built into the > structure, so this kitchen was often called the “Backstube” (bakery). > Every yard had a pig stall that stood separate from the other buildings. > The gardens were located behind the enclosed yard. Summer life centred > around these cozy yards with their covered terraces, which ran along the > entire length of the main house. Even the poorer farmers had terraces, > which were often adorned with many flowers. The houses were 7 to 10 metres > wide and the rooms were very spacious. A living room or kitchen was often > 16 to 22 square metres in area. Ceiling heights were never less than 3 > metres > > > The first large brick furnace was built in 1892. Prior to this date, all > building bricks were manufactured in field ovens. The process of producing > such bricks was as follows: Hammered rocks were laid on edge and piled in > layers, 5 to 8 cm apart, to a height of 4 metres. The rows of rocks in each > layer ran perpendicular to the previous layer. A wall made of thinner > rocks was built around this pile and the gaps between the rocks were sealed > with clay. Then 8 to 10 “fire holes” where opened in the wall, spaced > approximately 2 metres apart. Straw was inserted through the holes and > then set ablaze. Bricks made in this fashion were used to build the > church, the community hall and the schools. > Regards, > Roy Engel > > >

Eileen I am sure that there could be many discussions. Don’t worry. We could also talk about DNA. Had mine done by Ancestry and was shocked by what I found out. This was a B.D. Gift from my children. I know that most if it is fact. P.s. Do you want a ride there? Sent from Helga's Ipad > On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Eileen Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Any of those dates work for me. I'll confess right now that I haven't had any luck in finding a speaker, so we should have a discussion about what the agenda will be. > > Eileen > > ________________________________ > From: Timothy Ottinger <[email protected]> > Sent: March 14, 2018 1:38 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Our May or June Get-Together > > Hi Anne, > My husband and I are looking forward to coming again. June 2nd would be the best time for us. > Judy > > On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:07 PM, anna dreer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello to all > who attended last November’s meeting in Guelph and to those who wish to come to our meeting this spring. > The meeting room we had in Guelph is available on the following Saturdays: May 26th, June 2nd and June 16th. > > Please let me know which dates you would like. Then I can confirm the booking. > Anne Dreer > > > > > >

Looking forward to it. Dates are all ok at this point but will advise further when we get home tomorrow from very. Cold Florida Helga Sent from Helga's Ipad > On Mar 14, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Timothy Ottinger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Anne, > My husband and I are looking forward to coming again. June 2nd would be the best time for us. > Judy > > On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:07 PM, anna dreer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello to all > who attended last November’s meeting in Guelph and to those who wish to come to our meeting this spring. > The meeting room we had in Guelph is available on the following Saturdays: May 26th, June 2nd and June 16th. > > Please let me know which dates you would like. Then I can confirm the booking. > Anne Dreer > > > > >

Further to my previous e-mail, here are a few examples of houses in the Banat (exterior views only): http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/photos/houses.htm Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: Nick Tullius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: March 14, 2018 7:39 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) ' Subject: [DVHH] Re: whitewashed walls and dung floors Folks, it is crucial to mention time and place. The houses of the Banat villages around 1950 when I lived there, bore little resemblance to the houses of the early settlers in the 1700s. To start with the roof: virtually all roofs in the village were of thin red burned bricks. They lasted almost forever, but did not provide much thermal insulation: It was very hot in the attic during the summer. I remember very vaguely a house with a roof of cane, it was a kind of rare specimen. Some walls were still stomped ("gestampft"), made of a thick layer of earth mixed with chaff, which did provide superior thermal insulation, but in time the humidity from the soil tended to penetrate the foundation and move upwards. Also, the mice would dig channels through them. All the gables that I have seen were made of heavy burned brick. The basic ones were triangular, but the more expensive ones had more elaborate shapes with decorations, the so-called village baroque style. The bottom part of the gables had typically two large windows. The top part had two small, uncovered openings, and an inscription of the names of the owners (usually husband and wife) and the year of construction. Larger, more expensive houses had replaced the mud walls by bricks and added a basement used to store the wine barrels and some food items. The interior walls were plastered (with clay or cement?) and then painted. The painting consisted of a grounding in light colour, followed by stencilled patterns in one or more darker colours. There was an earlier discussion of this process on the DVHH list. The ceilings were white. The floors were mostly wooden, but some were very hard clay that felt like cement. The entire floor or only the walk-on sections were covered with rugs, often home-made from strips of textile material ("Fetzeteppiche"). Either the front or the side of the house formed the border to the street. They were no longer whitewashed, but painted in two colours: a darker "socket" about one meter high, and a lighter-colour upper part. The row(s) of trees in front of the houses were whitewashed. A fence or wall stretched along the rest of the lot, interrupted by a narrow gate for the entry of persons, and a wide gate for vehicle (mainly horse-drawn carriages). Adjacent to house and fence was a sidewalk paved with burned bricks. I know that it was not identical in all villages, but it was pretty much similar in the villages of the Banater lowlands ("die Heed"). Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Schwartz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: March 13, 2018 5:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] Re: whitewashed walls and dung floors Two things: walls and floors. I do not have the benefit of having lived in Banat, so I am speaking just from hearsay. If I am full of baloney, I hope someone will set me straight. With respect to whitewashing walls, I believe it was for more than just esthetics. My understanding is that the walls were made of mud and straw bricks which were then plastered over with mud to make a smoother surface. Then they were whitewashed for appearance and _protection_. The whitewash protected the mud coating from wicking up water. Not sure if this was continuous from the water table or just from the surface when it rained. If you go to Banat today, you will find that most of these old houses are not well cared for and the plaster for the bottom three feet or so has fallen away. With respect to dirt floors, I have an account of Banaters building a sod house in Canada in which they somehow used cow dung to give the floor a smooth and polished finish. I am not sure if it was mixed with mud or just smeared on the dirt floor. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: [email protected] On 3/13/2018 2:58 PM, Rose Mary Keller Hughes wrote: > My mother told me about how it was her weekly chore to "do" the floors in her parents' home. They were dirt floor but with the weekly cleaning it had become almost like a ceramic floor. She would wash the floor and then, with a broom, she would create a design on the floor. It wasn't until my grandparents sent money home from America that a wood floor was put in (it was my grandmother's brother who put in the floor--he had a lumberyard in the village). My grandparents' primary reason for going to America was to improve their home and to buy more land for farming. > > Rose Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Tullius <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:46 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) ' <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Spring - Time to whitewash the walls > > Hello Daniela, > > How to keep a Banat-Swabian home clean - before and after the War: > > http://www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen/memories/cleanliness-eng-de~NT.htm > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniela Hieslmayr [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: March 13, 2018 2:54 PM > To: Darlene Dimitrie; [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Spring - Time to whitewash the walls > > I don’t know much about how the house of my grandmother was build. > > 1,5 year ago I visited her home town Sotin. I stood before the house, she lived in. It was very nice, renovated and people lived in there. It has been the house of her Danube Svabian grandmother. My grandmother, her siblings and parents had a room in this house, where they lived. They had floors of mashed earth she told me (so maybe loam). > > It was the typical type of house, small front, way far long back and on the side a long corridor under roof with columns. She always says, that there was a „Vorzeigezimmer“. She says, it was the room with the window to the street. It was the prettiest room, but they never sat in it. Only in rare cases, when special visitors came or on holidays. > > Liebe Grüße, Daniela > > Am 13.03.18, 16:35 schrieb "Darlene Dimitrie" unter > <[email protected]>: > >> I was visiting a cousin the other day and we were talking about what >> life was like in Yugoslavia. >> >> We were talking about how the walls were constructed in their homes. >> She was telling me about when my grandparents built their own home in >> 1937-38, how my grandmother, who was very pregnant with her 7th child, >> would take the horse and wagon to somewhere in town where men would >> load the yellow dirt (loam, I believe) onto her wagon and she would >> bring it back to the house. They would roll wood and straw into the >> dirt for the walls to strengthen them. >> >> Nothing stopped my grandma, she still had a vegetable garden when she >> was 90 years old, and passed away the next year. I have a vivid >> picture >> in my head of her, heavily pregnant, dealing with the horses, wagon >> and the dirt. >> >> Every spring, the walls were whitewashed inside and outside to give >> their homes a fresh look for the spring. Does anyone remember what >> else went on in the springtime - besides the obvious, planting of the crops. >> >> Was wondering if anyone would talk a bit more about the construction of >> their homes. My mom's house had loam floors, which they would sweep >> every day. You were considered rich if you had wood floors Was the >> roof mud too? What about interior walls? She said that the walls were >> thick enough that it kept the temperature regulated, not too hot in the >> summer or too cold in the winter. >> >> Across the front of the house, the porch was covered with grapevines, >> which were for eating, as opposed to the ones in their vineyards, which >> were for wine-making. >> >> >> -- >> Darlene >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >> > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >