We need to have an article about Donauschwaben life on the website. I am the granddaughter of Banat immigrants. I did not know all this information. I would love to have information like this to share with my children and grandchildren. I’m sure there are many of us! Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> wrote: > > Agreed re: the article :) Time is the main factor, though. > > Thank you, Anne, for the wonderful email. And no, it wasn't boring at all. In fact, please keep going! But it's precisely these details that make our history come to life and really show how different life was back then, and also how different it was from what we learn about pioneers here. > > And yes, I was wondering how women washed their hair. Did that happen in the kitchen, then? And where did they rinse? Or didn't they rinse? > > Also, I realized I made a typo in my original email: The brand name of the range was Vesta. Vespa is the scooter :) > > I actually have a scene in this novel where Elisabeth is making the beds. That detail about redistributing the straw is very useful. Thank you. > > Now, where would that chamber pot have been emptied? I presume carried out to the outhouse? (In Semlak, the outhouse was at the VERY end of the main structure, i.e., after the three-room longhouse, above-ground fruit cellar, summer kitchen, and horse and cow stalls. THEN came the outhouse. I can't imagine the impracticalities of such a setup...) > > I'm happy to learn more! (As, I'm sure, are others on the list!) > > Regards, > > Lori Straus > Author of Between Worlds: A new YA series about the DS and their descendants (published under Lori Wolf-Heffner) > Gara: Heffner, Wagner, Brandt > Ridjica/Stanisitsch: Wagner, Zimmermann, Fleckstein > Semlak: Wolf, Bartolf > Schöndorf: Bortscher, Klein > www.loriwolfheffner.com <http://www.loriwolfheffner.com/> > Speak fluent German > > Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > > > On 02-23-19, 7:12 AM, "Mjm1021@comcast.net" <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: > > HI Lori, > This would make an excellent article to be on the DVHH website. These memories will soon pass away if they aren’t written down for posterity. > > Fran Matkovich > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 22, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> Hello Lori, >> i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. >> >> A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures of the older models. >> >> Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. >> >> The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as smoke to the stove pipe. >> The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had hot water. >> For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed with home made soap. >> Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). >> >> Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. >> When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied in the morning. >> >> Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with meals in the winter. >> Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. >> They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till Christmas. >> The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding from 1956. >> >> Have a great day, >> Anne Dreer >> >> >> ----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Agreed re: the article :) Time is the main factor, though. Thank you, Anne, for the wonderful email. And no, it wasn't boring at all. In fact, please keep going! But it's precisely these details that make our history come to life and really show how different life was back then, and also how different it was from what we learn about pioneers here. And yes, I was wondering how women washed their hair. Did that happen in the kitchen, then? And where did they rinse? Or didn't they rinse? Also, I realized I made a typo in my original email: The brand name of the range was Vesta. Vespa is the scooter :) I actually have a scene in this novel where Elisabeth is making the beds. That detail about redistributing the straw is very useful. Thank you. Now, where would that chamber pot have been emptied? I presume carried out to the outhouse? (In Semlak, the outhouse was at the VERY end of the main structure, i.e., after the three-room longhouse, above-ground fruit cellar, summer kitchen, and horse and cow stalls. THEN came the outhouse. I can't imagine the impracticalities of such a setup...) I'm happy to learn more! (As, I'm sure, are others on the list!) Regards, Lori Straus Author of Between Worlds: A new YA series about the DS and their descendants (published under Lori Wolf-Heffner) Gara: Heffner, Wagner, Brandt Ridjica/Stanisitsch: Wagner, Zimmermann, Fleckstein Semlak: Wolf, Bartolf Schöndorf: Bortscher, Klein www.loriwolfheffner.com <http://www.loriwolfheffner.com/> Speak fluent German Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member On 02-23-19, 7:12 AM, "Mjm1021@comcast.net" <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: HI Lori, This would make an excellent article to be on the DVHH website. These memories will soon pass away if they aren’t written down for posterity. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hello Lori, > i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. > > A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures of the older models. > > Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. > > The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as smoke to the stove pipe. > The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had hot water. > For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed with home made soap. > Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). > > Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. > When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied in the morning. > > Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with meals in the winter. > Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. > They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till Christmas. > The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding from 1956. > > Have a great day, > Anne Dreer > > > ----- > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Anne, Your recollections bring to mind many practices that my family brought from the old country into the new. The rain barrel was part of our lives as well and my mother's long and beautiful hair was washed with water from the barrel. Her hair went past her waist and when she washed it, she would sit over the heat register to dry it. She never cut her hair and I believe that was the practice in her village. My aunts were "modern" and cut their hair and grandma cried when she first saw them after the cutting. Our very small piece of land was very much like how the land around the homes in Semlak were when we visited there . . . the house; the kitchen garden with a grape arbor; the animals near the house (we had a cow named Heidi, chickens, geese (oh, how I hated them), pigs and had schlact (sp?) fest when they were ready for slaughter, goats, and pigeons; and large tended fields were next to their neighbors fields a distance from the houses and kitchen gardens--while we didn't have large tended fields, my Alfadr (not a misspelling--it is how we called our grandfather--it was Semlakian) would take our cow and goats to fields near us. Imagine when people on the highway would see this little fellow walk down the road, long chain draped over his arm, going to the fields where our neighbors had given permission to let our cow (and goats) graze on their land. When my husband and I visited Semlak, I realized my family had a small piece of Semlak in New York where they had settled. Oh, yes, let's not forget the painting of the lower part of the tree trunks! Rose Mary Keller Hughes -----Original Message----- From: Franz <bohn1@comcast.net> Sent: 22 February, 2019 4:10 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Practical questions about the kinds of details you don't think about Wonderful recollections. Very interesting. The Amish life, as it is lived today, reminds me a lot of our 1940's Donauschwaben days. R/ Franz On 2/22/2019 2:54 PM, Anne Dreer wrote: > Hello Lori, > i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any > more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. > > A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some > may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the > original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you > could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured > and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures > of the older models. > > Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in > their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel > or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. > > The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was > like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the > fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as > smoke to the stove pipe. > The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). > Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had > hot water. > For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass > (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and > sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed > with home made soap. > Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the > straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would > always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year > they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). > > Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a > boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water > over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature > his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. > When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - > Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied > in the morning. > > Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled > peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with > meals in the winter. > Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off > season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how > they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. > They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their > kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always > hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till > Christmas. > The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued > with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding > from 1956. > > Have a great day, > Anne Dreer > > > ----- > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@root > sweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.c om Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello all, Family search has information on this for German genealogical records.... o-o means common law marriage, illegitimate.....  oo means married....o/o means divorced.... I hope that helps.Have a wonderful day everyone! Eva

Hello all,Family search has information on this for German genealogical records: o-o means common law marriage, illegitimateoo means marriedo/o means divorced I hope that helps.Have a wonderful day everyone! Eva On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 12:22:08 AM CST, B. Heinsohn via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: Interesting.  Does anyone know what exactly it is an abbreviation for? In common day genealogy NPE is used for non-parental event. Current estimates stand at 10-15% of the population. bh     On Friday, February 22, 2019, 9:28:58 PM CST, Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> wrote:  See: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Symbols_and_Signs Appears the child may have been illegitimate or born of a common law marriage Tom > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:24 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: > > Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community   _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

HI Lori, This would make an excellent article to be on the DVHH website. These memories will soon pass away if they aren’t written down for posterity. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hello Lori, > i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. > > A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures of the older models. > > Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. > > The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as smoke to the stove pipe. > The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had hot water. > For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed with home made soap. > Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). > > Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. > When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied in the morning. > > Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with meals in the winter. > Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. > They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till Christmas. > The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding from 1956. > > Have a great day, > Anne Dreer > > > ----- > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Bonjour à tous, Andreas KLINGLER himself emigrate to Banat and died in Batschsentiwan in 1778. 4 of his daughters, at least, went also to Banat : - Anne Marie (born 1744 in Rolbing) married Jean Nicolas HIEGEL in 1767 - Anne Odile (born 1749, Rolbing) - Anne Elisabeth (born 1746, Rolbing, died 1768 Batschsentiwan) - Reine (born 1731, Kroppen, married Jean Theobald EHRARD in Lorraine; she died in Batschsentiwan) Daniel HILAIRE, Bordeaux ________________________________ De : Norbert Bauer <norbert.b@topfoto.at> Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2019 16:51 À : George Klingler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Objet : [DVHH] Re: family Klingler Hello George! The daughter of Andreas Klingler, Marie Elisabeth Klingler (1746 - 1794) went to Batschsentiwan. She was born in Walschbronn, Moselle, France. I don't know if a brother of her or another member of the family went there too. Norbert Bauer Am 22.02.2019 um 17:00 schrieb George Klingler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES: > Hello Norbert, > None of these sound familiar. What town did they migrate to? At the moment I am having trouble accessing my tree on Ancestry.com. I will follow up once I regain access. > My Klinglers originally came from Kirchenarnbach, which I believe is north of the Saarland. > George Klingler > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:52 AM, Norbert Bauer<norbert.b@topfoto.at> wrote: Hi, > > as your name is Klingler. Do you have an > > - Andreas Klingler, 1705-1778, married to Katharina Stahl > - father of him: Stefan Sebastian Klingler, 1681-1741, married to Maria > Agathe Spradeler > - grandfather of him: Hans Peter Klingler, 1651-1723, married to > Magdalena Collon > > in your family tree? They are from Utweiler, now Saarland. > > Bye, > Norbert > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Interesting.  Does anyone know what exactly it is an abbreviation for? In common day genealogy NPE is used for non-parental event. Current estimates stand at 10-15% of the population. bh On Friday, February 22, 2019, 9:28:58 PM CST, Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> wrote: See: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Symbols_and_Signs Appears the child may have been illegitimate or born of a common law marriage Tom > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:24 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: > > Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The child will also have the mother’s surname. Steve B. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2019, at 10:30 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: > > That’s what I thought cause there was no father listed. > Thanks for the reply > Barb > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> See: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Symbols_and_Signs >> >> Appears the child may have been illegitimate or born of a common law marriage >> >> Tom >> >>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:24 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

That’s what I thought cause there was no father listed. Thanks for the reply Barb Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> wrote: > > See: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Symbols_and_Signs > > Appears the child may have been illegitimate or born of a common law marriage > > Tom > >> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:24 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

See: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Symbols_and_Signs Appears the child may have been illegitimate or born of a common law marriage Tom > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:24 PM, bbd2424@gmail.com wrote: > > Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Can someone tell me what it means when in FB there is o-o after a child’s name? Sent from my iPhone

Thanks for the info. - Brad Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > Haus der Donauschwaben in Sindelfingen (http://www.haus-donauschwaben.de/wordpress/) is an official state-sponsored organization. It is open a couple of days a week and other times by appointment. In addition to the museum, it has a library and also houses the AKdFF (akdff.de) which, in one way or another, is responsible for most of the Familienbucher. > > Haus der Donauschwaben in Haar (suburb of Munich) is a less formal, more volunteer run organization. Its museum is more eclectic and more full with a few areas of special interest. Unfortunately, I do not believe anyone in charge there speaks English, so you would have to arrange for a translator to communicate with them and tour. It seems to be run by the old timers who may not be around much longer. Not sure what the future holds. It is well worth a visit if you can arrange it. Get a small taste at these web pages https://www.gemeinde-haar.de/leben/freizeit/kultur/museen AND http://www.gerhardsombor.org/de/gal-290-Besuch-im-Haus-der-Donauschwaben-in-Haar.html > > The Dounauschaben Museum in Ulm is a typical institutional museum. Well worth a visit, but lacking the charm of the other two.http://www.dzm-museum.de/en/ > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > >> On 2/21/2019 6:50 AM, Bradley Schwebler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >> I wish I knew about that place when I was in München. I did meet a Schwebler family there though who surprised me by showing me a book about Feketitsch. I thought Haus der Donauschwaben was in Sindelfingen. Is there more than one? - Brad >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 2:50 AM, Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I guess I am not 100% surprised to hear about German sites shutting down. >>> In 2017, my wife Joy and I stopped in Haus der Donauschwabens in Haar >>> (suburb of Munchen, on the train line S). It was quite interesting, a small >>> place, with a focus on Cserwinka (Batchka), where I actually have possibly >>> some history. Everyone there was 60+, maybe 65. No one spoke English, and >>> my German could get me by a little, but it's only so good. If anyone is >>> going to Munchen, it's worth a stop. >>> >>> I too enjoy dvhh and have gained a lot from it. I am writing a family book >>> of my own about my Mom's family who all came in the 1920s from Hungary, >>> Romania, Serbia. >>> >>> Paul A. Thompson >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 9:40 PM Rose Mary Keller Hughes < >>> rhughes5@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>>> For those of you who don't know the history of dvhh.org--Jody McKim Pharr >>>> started this all. From a modest beginning, dvhh has grown and grown. Just >>>> spend a day on the web site and you'll discover that you haven't seen all >>>> that is offered at the site. There is so much to learn there. We owe so >>>> much to Jody! >>>> >>>> I salute you dear friend and I thank you! I have learned so much and I >>>> have benefitted so much. Many, many thanks Jody McKim Pharr! You had a >>>> dream and it became a reality through your dedication, your hard work, and >>>> your creative talents! >>>> >>>> Rose Mary Keller Hughes, Coordinator >>>> www.dvhh.org/semlak >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: jodymckimpharr <jodymckimpharr@comcast.net> >>>> Sent: 20 February, 2019 1:59 PM >>>> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) < >>>> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: [DVHH] DVHH Life Online >>>> >>>> Greetings Everyone!I browsed the DVHH guest book today, it's been a while. >>>> I continue to be amazed how the DVHH has reached and touched so many >>>> folks. And the mail list is still flourishing. Our Facebook has a life of >>>> it's own. I have to admit I don't know everyone personally. There was a >>>> time when I(we) knew everyone, lol - many years ago. Check out the guest >>>> book: http://www.dvhh.org/community/guestbook/index.htmlAs I've been >>>> updating dvhh.org and trying to correct broken links, it's hard not to be >>>> sad as to all the German sites and other notable useful sites that have >>>> been shut down. Nick Tullius and I have discussed this privately but I >>>> wanted to bring it to the attention of all. There was a time (early 2000s) >>>> when only they existed. Which became a primary reason the DVHH.org was >>>> created Jan 15, 2003. For whatever reasons these sites are no longer >>>> available: webmasters pass away, too expensive or time consuming to >>>> continue; .... I want to thank all the DVHH volunteers and admin >>>> istrators who are still going strong and keep DVHH running since 2003.In >>>> 2007 it was recommended we become a nonprofit, which we did. This opened up >>>> our membership. These paying members keep the DVHH financially stable to >>>> ensure we remain online. Note: no one gets paid! I retired from the board >>>> of Directors last year, leaving those affairs to a well qualified group. I >>>> don't even know or ask what our budget is. The DVHH has never participated >>>> in a "membership drive" and I hope this message isn't misconstrued as one, >>>> because we've never pleaded for money. But I want to just say this, my hope >>>> is that in 15 years down the line that - dvhh.org can still be accessed >>>> online, still going strong! If you have benefited from the DVHH you can >>>> always show your appreciation in financial support which will extend its >>>> life online.http://www.dvhh.org/membership/ Thank you all and have a >>>> blessed day.Carry on my fellow researchers!Jody McKim Pharr >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >>>> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you for this interesting memories! Gesendet mit der GMX Mail App Am 22.02.19 um 20:54 schrieb Anne Dreer > Hello Lori, > i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any more > questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. > > A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some may > have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the original > ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you could talk to them. > I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured and available at Elmira > Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures of the older models. > > Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in their > kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel or hanging > beside it for anyone thirsty. > > The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was like a > box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the fire box went > around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as smoke to the stove > pipe. > The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). Even > my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had hot water. > For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass > (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and sheets, > pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed with home > made soap. > Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the straw had > to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would always get pushed > away from the centre during the night. Once a year they would put fresh > straw into the Strohsack (palliass). > > Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a boil. > They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water over the > ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature his infusion > was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. > When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - > Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied in the > morning. > > Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled peppers > or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with meals in the > winter. > Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off season. > those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how they got > paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. > They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their > kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always hanged > bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till Christmas. > The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued with > the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding from 1956. > > Have a great day, > Anne Dreer > > > ----- > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Wonderful recollections. Very interesting. The Amish life, as it is lived today, reminds me a lot of our 1940's Donauschwaben days. R/ Franz On 2/22/2019 2:54 PM, Anne Dreer wrote: > Hello Lori, > i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any > more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. > > A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some > may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the > original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you > could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured > and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures > of the older models. > > Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in > their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel > or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. > > The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was > like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the > fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as > smoke to the stove pipe. > The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). > Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had > hot water. > For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass > (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and > sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed > with home made soap. > Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the > straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would > always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year > they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). > > Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a > boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water > over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature > his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. > When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - > Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied > in the morning. > > Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled > peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with > meals in the winter. > Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off > season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how > they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. > They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their > kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always > hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till > Christmas. > The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued > with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding > from 1956. > > Have a great day, > Anne Dreer > > > ----- > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

When I visited HdD in Haar, I did not arrange the visit in advance, which might have been smarter. They seemed a little surprised that an American person (and wife) showed up. Next time, I will arrange beforehand. Paul A. Thompson On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > Haus der Donauschwaben in Sindelfingen > (http://www.haus-donauschwaben.de/wordpress/) is an official > state-sponsored organization. It is open a couple of days a week and > other times by appointment. In addition to the museum, it has a library > and also houses the AKdFF (akdff.de) which, in one way or another, is > responsible for most of the Familienbucher. > > Haus der Donauschwaben in Haar (suburb of Munich) is a less formal, more > volunteer run organization. Its museum is more eclectic and more full > with a few areas of special interest. Unfortunately, I do not believe > anyone in charge there speaks English, so you would have to arrange for > a translator to communicate with them and tour. It seems to be run by > the old timers who may not be around much longer. Not sure what the > future holds. It is well worth a visit if you can arrange it. Get a > small taste at these web pages > https://www.gemeinde-haar.de/leben/freizeit/kultur/museen AND > > http://www.gerhardsombor.org/de/gal-290-Besuch-im-Haus-der-Donauschwaben-in-Haar.html > > The Dounauschaben Museum in Ulm is a typical institutional museum. Well > worth a visit, but lacking the charm of the other two. > http://www.dzm-museum.de/en/ > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in > Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, > Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > On 2/21/2019 6:50 AM, Bradley Schwebler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > > I wish I knew about that place when I was in München. I did meet a > Schwebler family there though who surprised me by showing me a book about > Feketitsch. I thought Haus der Donauschwaben was in Sindelfingen. Is > there more than one? - Brad > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Feb 21, 2019, at 2:50 AM, Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I guess I am not 100% surprised to hear about German sites shutting > down. > >> In 2017, my wife Joy and I stopped in Haus der Donauschwabens in Haar > >> (suburb of Munchen, on the train line S). It was quite interesting, a > small > >> place, with a focus on Cserwinka (Batchka), where I actually have > possibly > >> some history. Everyone there was 60+, maybe 65. No one spoke English, > and > >> my German could get me by a little, but it's only so good. If anyone is > >> going to Munchen, it's worth a stop. > >> > >> I too enjoy dvhh and have gained a lot from it. I am writing a family > book > >> of my own about my Mom's family who all came in the 1920s from Hungary, > >> Romania, Serbia. > >> > >> Paul A. Thompson > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 9:40 PM Rose Mary Keller Hughes < > >> rhughes5@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >>> For those of you who don't know the history of dvhh.org--Jody McKim > Pharr > >>> started this all. From a modest beginning, dvhh has grown and grown. > Just > >>> spend a day on the web site and you'll discover that you haven't seen > all > >>> that is offered at the site. There is so much to learn there. We owe > so > >>> much to Jody! > >>> > >>> I salute you dear friend and I thank you! I have learned so much and I > >>> have benefitted so much. Many, many thanks Jody McKim Pharr! You had > a > >>> dream and it became a reality through your dedication, your hard work, > and > >>> your creative talents! > >>> > >>> Rose Mary Keller Hughes, Coordinator > >>> www.dvhh.org/semlak > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: jodymckimpharr <jodymckimpharr@comcast.net> > >>> Sent: 20 February, 2019 1:59 PM > >>> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) < > >>> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >>> Subject: [DVHH] DVHH Life Online > >>> > >>> Greetings Everyone!I browsed the DVHH guest book today, it's been a > while. > >>> I continue to be amazed how the DVHH has reached and touched so many > >>> folks. And the mail list is still flourishing. Our Facebook has a > life of > >>> it's own. I have to admit I don't know everyone personally. There was > a > >>> time when I(we) knew everyone, lol - many years ago. Check out the > guest > >>> book: http://www.dvhh.org/community/guestbook/index.htmlAs I've been > >>> updating dvhh.org and trying to correct broken links, it's hard not > to be > >>> sad as to all the German sites and other notable useful sites that have > >>> been shut down. Nick Tullius and I have discussed this privately but I > >>> wanted to bring it to the attention of all. There was a time (early > 2000s) > >>> when only they existed. Which became a primary reason the DVHH.org was > >>> created Jan 15, 2003. For whatever reasons these sites are no longer > >>> available: webmasters pass away, too expensive or time consuming to > >>> continue; .... I want to thank all the DVHH volunteers and admin > >>> istrators who are still going strong and keep DVHH running since > 2003.In > >>> 2007 it was recommended we become a nonprofit, which we did. This > opened up > >>> our membership. These paying members keep the DVHH financially stable > to > >>> ensure we remain online. Note: no one gets paid! I retired from the > board > >>> of Directors last year, leaving those affairs to a well qualified > group. I > >>> don't even know or ask what our budget is. The DVHH has never > participated > >>> in a "membership drive" and I hope this message isn't misconstrued as > one, > >>> because we've never pleaded for money. But I want to just say this, my > hope > >>> is that in 15 years down the line that - dvhh.org can still be > accessed > >>> online, still going strong! If you have benefited from the DVHH you can > >>> always show your appreciation in financial support which will extend > its > >>> life online.http://www.dvhh.org/membership/ Thank you all and have a > >>> blessed day.Carry on my fellow researchers!Jody McKim Pharr > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb > >>> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>> community > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello Lori, i hope this lengthy letter doesn't bore you too much. If you have any more questions, let me know. I have a lot of memories. A lot of the old order Amish are still using wood kitchen ranges. Some may have the modernized ones, but I think a lot of them still have the original ones. I am sure if you went to the St. Jacobs market you could talk to them. I think wood cook stoves are still manufactured and available at Elmira Stove Works. A lot of web sites have pictures of the older models. Our DS ancestors would always keep a pail full of drinking water in their kitchen.a pail of water. There was usually a ladle in the barrel or hanging beside it for anyone thirsty. The oldest type ranges did not have a water reservoir. The oven was like a box on top of one side of the Kochplatte. The heat from the fire box went around it to ensure (fairly) even heat and then out as smoke to the stove pipe. The more modern type f Sporher=Sparherd had a Kessili (water tank). Even my grandmother had one of those in the 1930's. They always had hot water. For doing the laundry they used rainwater. Every house had a Regafass (rainbarrel. All white cotton, underskirts, men's Sunday shirts and sheets, pillow cases and duvet covers had to be boiled and were washed with home made soap. Most village homes had straw matrasses. Before making the beds the straw had to be re-distributed through an open seam , as it would always get pushed away from the centre during the night. Once a year they would put fresh straw into the Strohsack (palliass). Women washed their hair with rainwater. The rainwater was brought to a boil. They put wood ashes on an old cloth and poured the boiling water over the ashes like a strainer. When cooled to hand warm temperature his infusion was used to wash their hair. It made their hair very shiny. When there children in the house there was always a Scherwl - Scherbe=potsherd (chamberpot) under the bed that needed to be emptied in the morning. Of course they always pickled peppers and cucumbers. Those pickled peppers or cucumbers, cole slaw or Sauerkraut salad were served with meals in the winter. Every house had strings of dried peppers that could be used off season. those dried peppers were also pounded into powder. That's how they got paprika. They would never buy commercial paprika. They also had strings of braided onions and garlic hanging in their kitchens. Peeled apples were also dried on stings. My parents always hanged bunches of late grapes in the attic where they would keep till Christmas. The DS music was mostly oompah-pah with a Blaskapelle. This continued with the newly arrived immigrants. I still have a tape of our wedding from 1956. Have a great day, Anne Dreer -----

Haus der Donauschwaben in Sindelfingen (http://www.haus-donauschwaben.de/wordpress/) is an official state-sponsored organization. It is open a couple of days a week and other times by appointment. In addition to the museum, it has a library and also houses the AKdFF (akdff.de) which, in one way or another, is responsible for most of the Familienbucher. Haus der Donauschwaben in Haar (suburb of Munich) is a less formal, more volunteer run organization. Its museum is more eclectic and more full with a few areas of special interest. Unfortunately, I do not believe anyone in charge there speaks English, so you would have to arrange for a translator to communicate with them and tour. It seems to be run by the old timers who may not be around much longer. Not sure what the future holds. It is well worth a visit if you can arrange it. Get a small taste at these web pages https://www.gemeinde-haar.de/leben/freizeit/kultur/museen AND http://www.gerhardsombor.org/de/gal-290-Besuch-im-Haus-der-Donauschwaben-in-Haar.html The Dounauschaben Museum in Ulm is a typical institutional museum. Well worth a visit, but lacking the charm of the other two.http://www.dzm-museum.de/en/ Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 2/21/2019 6:50 AM, Bradley Schwebler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > I wish I knew about that place when I was in München. I did meet a Schwebler family there though who surprised me by showing me a book about Feketitsch. I thought Haus der Donauschwaben was in Sindelfingen. Is there more than one? - Brad > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2019, at 2:50 AM, Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I guess I am not 100% surprised to hear about German sites shutting down. >> In 2017, my wife Joy and I stopped in Haus der Donauschwabens in Haar >> (suburb of Munchen, on the train line S). It was quite interesting, a small >> place, with a focus on Cserwinka (Batchka), where I actually have possibly >> some history. Everyone there was 60+, maybe 65. No one spoke English, and >> my German could get me by a little, but it's only so good. If anyone is >> going to Munchen, it's worth a stop. >> >> I too enjoy dvhh and have gained a lot from it. I am writing a family book >> of my own about my Mom's family who all came in the 1920s from Hungary, >> Romania, Serbia. >> >> Paul A. Thompson >> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 9:40 PM Rose Mary Keller Hughes < >> rhughes5@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> For those of you who don't know the history of dvhh.org--Jody McKim Pharr >>> started this all. From a modest beginning, dvhh has grown and grown. Just >>> spend a day on the web site and you'll discover that you haven't seen all >>> that is offered at the site. There is so much to learn there. We owe so >>> much to Jody! >>> >>> I salute you dear friend and I thank you! I have learned so much and I >>> have benefitted so much. Many, many thanks Jody McKim Pharr! You had a >>> dream and it became a reality through your dedication, your hard work, and >>> your creative talents! >>> >>> Rose Mary Keller Hughes, Coordinator >>> www.dvhh.org/semlak >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: jodymckimpharr <jodymckimpharr@comcast.net> >>> Sent: 20 February, 2019 1:59 PM >>> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) < >>> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: [DVHH] DVHH Life Online >>> >>> Greetings Everyone!I browsed the DVHH guest book today, it's been a while. >>> I continue to be amazed how the DVHH has reached and touched so many >>> folks. And the mail list is still flourishing. Our Facebook has a life of >>> it's own. I have to admit I don't know everyone personally. There was a >>> time when I(we) knew everyone, lol - many years ago. Check out the guest >>> book: http://www.dvhh.org/community/guestbook/index.htmlAs I've been >>> updating dvhh.org and trying to correct broken links, it's hard not to be >>> sad as to all the German sites and other notable useful sites that have >>> been shut down. Nick Tullius and I have discussed this privately but I >>> wanted to bring it to the attention of all. There was a time (early 2000s) >>> when only they existed. Which became a primary reason the DVHH.org was >>> created Jan 15, 2003. For whatever reasons these sites are no longer >>> available: webmasters pass away, too expensive or time consuming to >>> continue; .... I want to thank all the DVHH volunteers and admin >>> istrators who are still going strong and keep DVHH running since 2003.In >>> 2007 it was recommended we become a nonprofit, which we did. This opened up >>> our membership. These paying members keep the DVHH financially stable to >>> ensure we remain online. Note: no one gets paid! I retired from the board >>> of Directors last year, leaving those affairs to a well qualified group. I >>> don't even know or ask what our budget is. The DVHH has never participated >>> in a "membership drive" and I hope this message isn't misconstrued as one, >>> because we've never pleaded for money. But I want to just say this, my hope >>> is that in 15 years down the line that - dvhh.org can still be accessed >>> online, still going strong! If you have benefited from the DVHH you can >>> always show your appreciation in financial support which will extend its >>> life online.http://www.dvhh.org/membership/ Thank you all and have a >>> blessed day.Carry on my fellow researchers!Jody McKim Pharr >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >>> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello George! The daughter of Andreas Klingler, Marie Elisabeth Klingler (1746 - 1794) went to Batschsentiwan. She was born in Walschbronn, Moselle, France. I don't know if a brother of her or another member of the family went there too. Norbert Bauer Am 22.02.2019 um 17:00 schrieb George Klingler via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES: > Hello Norbert, > None of these sound familiar. What town did they migrate to? At the moment I am having trouble accessing my tree on Ancestry.com. I will follow up once I regain access. > My Klinglers originally came from Kirchenarnbach, which I believe is north of the Saarland. > George Klingler > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:52 AM, Norbert Bauer<norbert.b@topfoto.at> wrote: Hi, > > as your name is Klingler. Do you have an > > - Andreas Klingler, 1705-1778, married to Katharina Stahl > - father of him: Stefan Sebastian Klingler, 1681-1741, married to Maria > Agathe Spradeler > - grandfather of him: Hans Peter Klingler, 1651-1723, married to > Magdalena Collon > > in your family tree? They are from Utweiler, now Saarland. > > Bye, > Norbert > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

A Hungarian dance group will be at this years Donauschwaben Treffen in Milwaukee over Labor Day and as always DS dance groups from all over North America will be dancing also. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, February 22, 2019 Dolores Brooks <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: In addition to Lori’s question about the music, I am wondering about the folk dances the villagers did. I have been doing folk dancing for years and have come across many dances from the Balkans but have always wondered if the Donauschwaben danced these dances or brought their own dances from their original villages in Germany. And if so, what were these dances? I have asked these questions of instructors who specialize in the folk dances of Romania, Croatia, and Serbia but none seem to know the answer. Thanks for any insights. Dolores Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > > I’m working on the final draft of novel 3 and have a few practical questions. (I’m still trying to wrap my brain around life without indoor plumbing and electricity.) These all pertain to 1920 in the formerly Hungarian, now Romanian part of the Banat. > > > I know that once families started buying Vespas (basically ranges), they had a compartment where they could keep water warm. But before that, when families still had a lime-painted brick oven and some sort of stove on top of it, did they get water just from the well as they needed it? Or would they have brought a good amount in in the morning so it could warm up inside the house throughout the day? > Did they preserve peppers? I’m just trying to figure how if goulash was possible in the winter. It feels like a dumb question, but peppers didn’t come from Africa in those days. > What kind of music would have been popular in the villages? What’s played now during our local German hour is for the generation born after 1920, so I don’t know what the village bands would’ve played IN 1920. > > > And does anyone know when electricity, indoor plumbing, floor boards, and telephones finally moved into the Romanian villages? > > > > Regards, > > > > Lori Straus > > Author of Between Worlds: A new YA series about the DS and their descendants (published under Lori Wolf-Heffner) > > Gara: Heffner, Wagner, Brandt > > Ridjica/Stanisitsch: Wagner, Zimmermann, Fleckstein > > Semlak: Wolf, Bartolf > > Schöndorf: Bortscher, Klein > > www.loriwolfheffner.com > > Speak fluent German > > > > Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community