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Thank You, Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: charles amann [mailto:charles.amann@sfr.fr] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 4:48 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] grabatz <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12px">‌hallo</span><br> <br> How can I do to get the fb Grabatz and Orzydorf<br> <br> thanks<br> <br> <!-- +Signature --><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand">Charles</font></strong> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>&nbsp; <div>&nbsp;</div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; 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margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">&nbsp;</span></font><font color="green" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:green; font-family:lucida sans unicode; font-size:9pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement</span></font></font></strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="green" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; 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I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > Hi Lori, > > That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and > not necessarily in german. > > Brigitte Zirger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > Hey everyone, > > > > Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that > right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > > > Any memories out there? > > > > Regards, > > > > Lori Straus > > Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts > / Memoir > (519) 503-7098 > Skype: lori.straus > www.loristraus.com > > > > Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Hi Lori, My family lived in North Dakota, so this may be a Dakota thing, but Mom was the only one I have ever heard say "Ohhh Isschh". Well, I also remember the police woman in "Fargo" said it! Probably not a Donauschwaben thing. My German father-in-law often said, "Sacrement noch a (ein) mal"! and "Pfeif und Honig" and "Maria und Josef"! Kelly ________________________________ From: BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:59 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? Hi Lori, That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and not necessarily in german. Brigitte Zirger -----Original Message----- From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? 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Hi Lori, That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and not necessarily in german. Brigitte Zirger -----Original Message----- From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? Regards, Lori Straus Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts / Memoir (519) 503-7098 Skype: lori.straus www.loristraus.com Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12px">H‌I<br> franzwa is François in Lorraine<br> but it will be difficult to know his origine because the name is common in my area<br> <br> Bahl looks more to be a name from Saarland or Pfalz</span><br> <br> <!-- +Signature --><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand">Charles AMANN</font></strong> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>&nbsp; <div>&nbsp;</div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:navy; font-size:12pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; 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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:green; font-family:lucida sans unicode; font-size:9pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement</span></font></font></strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="green" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:green; font-family:lucida sans unicode; font-size:9pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">Dèngge òn de Ùmwèlt, iwwerlèije ’s èisch bevòrm Ussdrùgge&nbsp;</span></font></font></strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="green" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:green; font-family:lucida sans unicode; font-size:9pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">&nbsp;</span></font></font></strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><font face="comic sans ms,sand"><font color="green" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; zoom: 1; "><span style="color:green; font-family:lucida sans unicode; font-size:9pt; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; margin-top:0px; padding-bottom:0px; padding-left:0px; padding-right:0px; padding-top:0px">&nbsp;</span></font></font></strong></p> </div> </div> <!-- -Signature --> <div class="gl_quote" style="margin-top: 20px; padding-top: 5px;">De : "Paul Frank"<br> A : "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'"<br> Envoyé: dimanche 3 mars 2019 14:57<br> Objet : [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl)<br> &nbsp; <div class="gl_quoted">Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help.<br> <br> Paul Frank<br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Andrea &amp; Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net]<br> Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM<br> To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'<br> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books<br> <br> I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well.<br> Dan Walter<br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community</div> <div class="gl_quoted">&nbsp;</div> </div>

Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? Regards, Lori Straus Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts / Memoir (519) 503-7098 Skype: lori.straus www.loristraus.com Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member

Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. Paul Frank -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter

Could anyone please tell me if Family Books are available for the town of Mucsi, Tolna? Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 6:59 AM Walter Sucher <walter.sucher@t-online.de> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > thank you for your kind offer. > > Please look up my family name SUCHER - > > my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela > Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, > that is all I ‚know‘... > > Thank you. > > Walter Sucher > D 14050 Berlin > > > Am 02.03.2019 um 17:35 schrieb Andrea & Dan Walter < > ajwdcw@windstream.net>: > > > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' > emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle > 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > > Dan Walter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM > > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > > > Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these > > cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just > ordered > > a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > > >> Greetings to all List subscribers, > >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > >> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > >> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > >> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > >> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed > text > >> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry > has > >> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein > in > >> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > >> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > >> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > >> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched > and > >> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that > the > >> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > >> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > >> affiliation with the retailer or the author. > >> > >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > >> > >> > >> > >> | > >> | > >> | | > >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > >> > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> RoyPickering, Ontario > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- *________________* *"I only want to research wealthy ancestors."* . P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

Hi Dan, thank you for your kind offer. Please look up my family name SUCHER - my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, that is all I ‚know‘... Thank you. Walter Sucher D 14050 Berlin > Am 02.03.2019 um 17:35 schrieb Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net>: > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these > cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered > a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Greetings to all List subscribers, >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I >> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. >> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs >> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as >> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text >> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has >> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in >> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that >> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any >> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I >> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and >> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the >> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice >> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no >> affiliation with the retailer or the author. >> >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> RoyPickering, Ontario >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

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Roy could you tell me if the Friedl surname comes up in your records?  My grandfather's description of where his family came from sounded like Alsace.  The last name I have this family is in the Mercydorf book, but was told by family Sigismund Friedl would be the one who decided to come to Hungary with his family. Thank you in advance for any assistance you might be able to give. Rhonda Friedl Staudt -----Original Message----- From: Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2019 8:55 pm Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Greetings to all List subscribers, I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany.  The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein.  It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß".  The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine.  The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records).  My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre).  Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs.  Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies.  You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros.  I received the CDs within two weeks.  The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal.  I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass | | |  | Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass | | | Regards, RoyPickering, Ontario _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Glenn, I just thought I'd mention there was a settlement by the name of Elsass in the Kutschurgan district of Russia, not to be confused with the Elsass (Alsace region) in France. I understand that Greg's ancestor came from the latter. Rose On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 9:30 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com wrote: > I have checked the Krummes Elsass CDs for a listing of a village named > Elsass and it does not appear. If there is such a village, I do not know > where it is. > Roy > On Friday, March 1, 2019, 11:23:03 p.m. EST, Glenn Schwartz < > gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > Thanks Roy. And, re: the inquiry from Greg, there was a village named > Elsass. He may have been referring to that. > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in > Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, > Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > On 3/1/2019 10:07 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > > Greetings List subscribers, > > As was pointed out by Glenn Schwartz, the link I provided does not get > you to where you can see the Elsaß CDs listed. It might be related to the > German symbol for double s (ß).Try this: Go to the main website: > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > > > | > > | > > | > > | | | > > > > | > > > > | > > | > > | | > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > > > Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema > Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > On this homepage, find the search field (Suche) on the left and enter: > Krummes Elsass and hit "Go".This will take you to the correct page. > > Roy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Roy. I only have the entry from Grabatz FB which says he came from Alsace. Greg Aasen Cell +1 604-551-5348 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > Hi Greg, > Elsaß = Elsass (Alsace) is the region in eastern France ( German = Frankreich) from which, together with its neighbouring region Lothringen (Lorraine), many of the Donauschwaben emigrated from. You will have to be more specific, if possible, as to which village your ancestor came from. I'll go through the villages as time permits to see if I can come across this name. > Roy > On Friday, March 1, 2019, 10:38:49 p.m. EST, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > Sounds exciting Roy, but the link did not come through for me. > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > >> On 3/1/2019 7:55 PM, Roy Engel wrote: >> Greetings to all List subscribers, >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. >> >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> RoyPickering, Ontario >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have checked the Krummes Elsass CDs for a listing of a village named Elsass and it does not appear.  If there is such a village, I do not know where it is. Roy On Friday, March 1, 2019, 11:23:03 p.m. EST, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: Thanks Roy. And, re: the inquiry from Greg, there was a village named Elsass. He may have been referring to that. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 3/1/2019 10:07 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > Greetings List subscribers, > As was pointed out by Glenn Schwartz, the link I provided does not get you to where you can see the Elsaß CDs listed.  It might be related to the German symbol for double s (ß).Try this:  Go to the main website:   Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > | > | > | > |  |  | > >  | > >  | > | > |  | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... >  | > >  | > >  | > > > > > On this homepage, find the search field  (Suche) on the left and enter:  Krummes Elsass   and hit "Go".This will take you to the correct page. > Roy > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Roy. And, re: the inquiry from Greg, there was a village named Elsass. He may have been referring to that. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 3/1/2019 10:07 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > Greetings List subscribers, > As was pointed out by Glenn Schwartz, the link I provided does not get you to where you can see the Elsaß CDs listed.  It might be related to the German symbol for double s (ß).Try this:  Go to the main website:   Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... > | > > | > > | > > > > > On this homepage, find the search field  (Suche) on the left and enter:  Krummes Elsass   and hit "Go".This will take you to the correct page. > Roy > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Greetings List subscribers, As was pointed out by Glenn Schwartz, the link I provided does not get you to where you can see the Elsaß CDs listed.  It might be related to the German symbol for double s (ß).Try this:  Go to the main website:   Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop | | | | | | | | | | | Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... | | | On this homepage, find the search field  (Suche) on the left and enter:  Krummes Elsass   and hit "Go".This will take you to the correct page. Roy

Hi Greg, Elsaß = Elsass (Alsace) is the region in eastern France ( German = Frankreich) from which, together with its neighbouring region Lothringen (Lorraine), many of the Donauschwaben emigrated from.  You will have to be more specific, if possible, as to which village your ancestor came from.  I'll go through the villages as time permits to see if I can come across this name. Roy On Friday, March 1, 2019, 10:38:49 p.m. EST, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: Sounds exciting Roy, but the link did not come through for me. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 3/1/2019 7:55 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany.  The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein.  It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß".  The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine.  The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records).  My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre).  Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs.  Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies.  You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros.  I received the CDs within two weeks.  The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal.  I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > |  | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > >  | > >  | > >  | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Sounds exciting Roy, but the link did not come through for me. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 3/1/2019 7:55 PM, Roy Engel wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany.  The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein.  It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß".  The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine.  The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records).  My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre).  Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs.  Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies.  You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros.  I received the CDs within two weeks.  The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal.  I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community