Hi Eve, "Willkommen Familie" sounds a bit awkward to me. I would say, "Willkommen, liebe Familie!" "Herzlich willkommen, liebe Familie!", or just "Herzlich willkommen!" For the other languages I had to rely on the online translator and hope that our speakers of those languages can weigh in: Croatian: "Dobrodošli, (dragi) obitelj!" Serbian: "Dobrodošli , (dragi) porodica!" Hungarian: "Üdvözöljük, (kedves) család!" The words in brackets mean "dear" Rose On 11 June 2014 05:24, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > Could I get some suggestions for "Welcome Family" in 3 different > languages? Looking for the best fit for German (willkommen Familie????), > Serbo/Croatian and Hungarian. > > > Thanks, > > Eve > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could I get some suggestions for "Welcome Family" in 3 different languages? Looking for the best fit for German (willkommen Familie????), Serbo/Croatian and Hungarian. Thanks, Eve -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Does anyone have an updated email address for Karen Preston? Karen@golden-hills.com does not seem to work anymore. Thanks, Tony Fieder > From: schultzj@sasktel.net > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 10:50:33 -0600 > To: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Familienzusammenstellung - meaning? > > Hi Jean, Cêskô Selo (Csehfalva ) appears to be in Serbia along the Serbian/Romanian border just south-east of Werschetz . I just googled it. I'm sure someone on the list knows more. > Check the DVHH village list maybe? > Steve > > Willow Creek Developments Ltd. > > > On Jun 8, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Jim & Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks Stephen, > > I never knew these were available. I would prefer a book too. I'm also looking for information for my Grandfather's village of Csehfalva also known as Ablian in Temes county. Would this be in Serbia or Hungary now? Are the two people you listed... Karen Dalton Preston and Dave Dreyer in this group? > > Jean > > > > > CC: jmoore@catapulsion.net; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > From: schultzj@sasktel.net > > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Familienzusammenstellung - meaning? > > > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 17:50:17 -0600 > > > To: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com > > > > > > Hi Jean > > > Yes I think most of us have ordered multiple FB. Both the cd version and the hardcover books themselves. They are maybe the single most valuable source info you will find for your search for ancestors. > > > I personally have a copy for almost every village where I had family( and a few where I was searching fruitlessly !) > > > The CDs I have only work on PCs not apple computers. Not sure if this is true of all but that's been my experience. Personally I prefer to buy the hardcover books, much easier to look back and forth as some of the CDs are not very search friendly.(or maybe that's my age showing!) > > > Many can be ordered through Karen Dalton Preston and Dave Dreyer and they are wonderful to deal with. Some of the others can only be ordered from the author usually in Germany. > > > Good Luck with your search!! > > > Steve > > > > > > Willow Creek Developments Ltd. > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Jim & Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Jane,Also has anyone ordered CD's on the Banatbooks.com? I haven't ordered it yet. Jean > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:59:37 -0600 > > > > Subject: Familienzusammenstellung - meaning? > > > > From: jmoore@catapulsion.net > > > > To: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com > > > > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > I don't know what Familienzusammenstellung means. I'm sure someone on the list will! > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Jim & Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Jane,This is very helpful. I checked the list of villages and my Grandmother's village is listed "Klek" and it's on CD. It is available on CD. Can anyone help me out on what Familienzusammenstellung means? I might be getting somewhere in my search. > > > > ThanksJean > > > > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 16:04:25 -0600 > > > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf > > > > From: jmoore@catapulsion.net > > > > > > > > To: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com > > > > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean, > > > > > > > > I'm sure others will answer this better than I, but I'll give it a go. Here is a description of the Kleinjetcha Family Book, Kleinjetscha being a village in today's Romanian Banat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Giel, Dietmar (2001). Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Kleinjetscha im Banat: 1772-2000. Friedrichsdorf: Zentralstelle für Personen- und Familiengeschichte. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 762 pages written in German. Includes details on the families living in Kleinjetscha from approximately 1772-2000 and limited information on the families living in the neighboring village Gertianosch from 1783-1785. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Included for each family are birth, death, & marriage dates and locations; children; godparents & witnesses; and the relationships between families. Sometimes included are occupations and migration notes. Though in German, because of the way the book is organized, it is relatively easy for non-German speakers to glean information about their families. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many of the > > > > villages where our ancestors lived have family books. While a few of > > > > the books have been put on line or on CD, many are hard copy only (and > > > > many of those are out-of-print). Here is a link to a list that includes > > > > just the Banat family books: > > > > > > > > http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm > > > > > > > > Jane Moore > > > > http://www.dvhh.org/kleinjetscha/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Conny for the added input, Whatever he decides to do he will need to do International as they will fly home from there. Eve On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Conny Eberhardt <connie1810@gmail.com> wrote: > I've flown into NYC numerous times and *tried* all airports. Depending on > what you like to do /where to go....all of the three airports are great. > For NY sightseeing i love / reccommend la Guardia airport (easy /fast to > get to and from the city) > However its not an international airport. But several connections to > Detroit. > JFK I usually use if i get there from Germany /visiting family on long > Island. But also easy to get to Manhattan. > > Newark is a pain in the neck if you want to get into manhattan. They have > great train connections but it takes like forever (compared to the other > two options) > Newark I usually use as a starting point to the NY state area / visiting > family in pennsylvania. Or if I can't get a decent flight to JFK ;) > > Conny > Am 10.06.2014 21:57 schrieb "Eve" <evebrown@gmail.com>: > > Thanks for your responses - I will make sure they get this info and will >> get back to you if necessary for further assist - really appreciate the >> help. >> >> Eve >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, <kaz7853@aol.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I am a New Yorker -- use JFK or EWR (Newark, NJ) for international >> > flights. JFK is closer to New York City, and is considered a standard >> taxi >> > fare to the city. With EWR, you will pay an upcharge coming from New >> > Jersey. >> > >> > Please advise if I may assist in any other way. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Kathy Zollner Meany >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> >> > To: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> >> > Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 9:47 am >> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] New York - off topic >> > >> > Eve, >> > >> > Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably >> > closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. >> > >> > If you need any more info contact me off list. >> > >> > Noelle >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to >> get >> > > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't >> mind >> > > helping - others please just ignore. >> > > >> > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you >> want to >> > > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our >> reunion >> > > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I >> > > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> > the message >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> > the message >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Thanks Noelle! Eve On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> wrote: > Eric Schwarz has the book. He is going to do a lookup when he returns > from traveling. I was in contact with him yesterday. > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I've been sent a request for this information, but I don't have anything > > for this village, but think there is a book out there????? If you can > help > > please let me know. > > > > Theodor Kettenbach born1892 death 1962 Mühlentechniker wife: Frida child: > > Kettenbach Ester (esther) born 14.9.1924 - Schidski Banovci > > > > > > Eve > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Eric Schwarz has the book. He is going to do a lookup when he returns from traveling. I was in contact with him yesterday. Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've been sent a request for this information, but I don't have anything > for this village, but think there is a book out there????? If you can help > please let me know. > > Theodor Kettenbach born1892 death 1962 Mühlentechniker wife: Frida child: > Kettenbach Ester (esther) born 14.9.1924 - Schidski Banovci > > > Eve > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your responses - I will make sure they get this info and will get back to you if necessary for further assist - really appreciate the help. Eve On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, <kaz7853@aol.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a New Yorker -- use JFK or EWR (Newark, NJ) for international > flights. JFK is closer to New York City, and is considered a standard taxi > fare to the city. With EWR, you will pay an upcharge coming from New > Jersey. > > Please advise if I may assist in any other way. > > Best regards, > Kathy Zollner Meany > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> > To: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> > Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 9:47 am > Subject: Re: [DVHH] New York - off topic > > Eve, > > Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably > closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. > > If you need any more info contact me off list. > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get > > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind > > helping - others please just ignore. > > > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to > > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion > > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I > > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. > > > > Eve > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

I've been sent a request for this information, but I don't have anything for this village, but think there is a book out there????? If you can help please let me know. Theodor Kettenbach born1892 death 1962 Mühlentechniker wife: Frida child: Kettenbach Ester (esther) born 14.9.1924 - Schidski Banovci Eve -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

These statistics are too sad coming from my father's place of origin. It goes to show that change just for the sake of change is not always good. Sadly, we are finding this in our own country too. Justine Zentner On 6/10/2014 11:13 AM, Rita Schiwanowitsch wrote: > > > Just ran across this interesting statistic on the Web today. I knew the poverty and unemployment were high in Vojvodina. The locals complain of lack of opportunities and the corruption of the government as a contributing factor. Sad. It is such a beautiful area. > > Rita from Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz > The world's most miserable countries > Many factors lead to extreme unhappiness, including finances and well-being. These nations report suffering a withering degree of these conditions. > > > No. 5: Serbia > Positive experience index score: 54 (tied – 4th lowest) > Percent smiled or laughed: 45 percent (3rd lowest) > GDP per capita: $11,085 (65th highest) > Life expectancy: 74 (49th highest) > The Serbian people have not had a particularly pleasant recent history, starting with the Yugoslav wars in the early 1990s and later the Kosovo War. These bloody, armed conflicts were accompanied by war crimes committed by most parties. > The Republic of Serbia, its most recent formation, was established in 2006. The country's political corruption and weak economy likely only added to Serbians' lack of positivity. Nearly one in four Serbians are unemployed, among the highest unemployment rates of the countries surveyed. Just 45 percent of Serbian respondents said they laughed or smiled in the previous day, and 49 percent said they felt well-rested — both among the lowest of all of the countries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Eve, I'd be happy to assist as well, however, I will not be available after 9 Sept. Regards, Kathy Zollner Meany -----Original Message----- From: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> To: Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 10:16 am Subject: Re: [DVHH] New York - off topic I may do that Noelle, perhaps when the time comes if he needs someone on the "inside" - would you be interested? This is for after Labor Day Eve On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> wrote: > Eve, > > Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably > closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. > > If you need any more info contact me off list. > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get > > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind > > helping - others please just ignore. > > > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to > > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion > > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I > > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. > > > > Eve > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I am a New Yorker -- use JFK or EWR (Newark, NJ) for international flights. JFK is closer to New York City, and is considered a standard taxi fare to the city. With EWR, you will pay an upcharge coming from New Jersey. Please advise if I may assist in any other way. Best regards, Kathy Zollner Meany -----Original Message----- From: Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> To: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 9:47 am Subject: Re: [DVHH] New York - off topic Eve, Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. If you need any more info contact me off list. Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind > helping - others please just ignore. > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. > > Eve > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jody. Thank you for posting the pdf "Migration in the Danube Region" by the Donauschwabisces Zentralmuseum. What a wonderful resource for us. Not only history, but maps, graphics and photographs. It will take time to go through all the information it contains. What a joy awaits us! Thank you to the scholars who put all of this information in a very readable manner. Regards, June Meyer junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com www.junemeyer.com See my homepage and Hungarian heirloom recipes! www.facebook.com/june.meyer.501 See my Face Book page. " ALWAYS REMEMBER: If we don't ask, we'll never know. . . and if we don't record what we do know, our descendants will wish we had!!" On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:37 PM, Jody McKim Pharr <jodymckimpharr@comcast.net> wrote: > A wonderful presentation by the Donauschwäbisches Zentralmuseum on a pdf > format: > > > > Migration in the Danube Region > > Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary > > > > Here is a tiny snippet, and link below: > > > > Because the authorities generally only permitted immigrants to enter > > the country as families, many of those who were not yet married > > found themselves forced to marry before departing or, by the latest, > > somewhere along the way. Records for many such marriages can be > > found at churches in Danube ports and places such as the Wengen > > Church in Ulm. During the first decades of settlement, > > a remarkably large number of widows and widowers were among > > the couples to wed this way. For example, > > only one third of the marriages performed in communities of the > > Bóly (Bohl) estate were for two persons who had never before been > > married. It was part of the settlers’ survival strategy related to the high > > mortality rate: Widowed persons could not run a farm alone, so it was > > often necessary to remarry within just weeks of a spouse’s death. > > > > For many men, marrying a widow was the easiest way to get residency. > > Young women, too, profited from marrying an older widower, thereby > > gaining a secure livelihood. It was thus quite common to find significant > > age differences between spouses. All of this resulted in unusual family > > structures where children from different marriages lived together. Children > > who had lost one or both parents stayed in the new family or were > > placed with foster parents. Their mortality rate was nonetheless > exceptionally > > high, especially among infants and toddlers. > > > > Also this is included in the presentation which may be of interest to some > of you: > > “All nationalities – Hungarians, Germans, Slovakians, Raizes and Wallachians > – were warmly welcomed.” > > Different Migration Movements Meet and Clash > > > > All and MUCH more found here: > > http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I > NT_ENG.pdf > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Jody > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may do that Noelle, perhaps when the time comes if he needs someone on the "inside" - would you be interested? This is for after Labor Day Eve On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Noelle Giesse <ngiesse@verizon.net> wrote: > Eve, > > Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably > closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. > > If you need any more info contact me off list. > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get > > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind > > helping - others please just ignore. > > > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to > > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion > > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I > > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. > > > > Eve > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Eve, Newark, JFK or LaGuardia are all close to Manhattan. LaGuardia probably closest. There are many flight daily from Detroit to LaGuardia. If you need any more info contact me off list. Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get > an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind > helping - others please just ignore. > > Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to > tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion > that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I > haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. > > Eve > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to burden the mail list with this, but not sure the best way to get an answer and I know I have some New Yorker on this list that won't mind helping - others please just ignore. Could anyone tell me the best airport to fly into New York if you want to tour the NY, NY area? I have cousins coming from Austria for our reunion that will fly into our area then from here do a short deal in NY and I haven't been there myself so was lacking in good info. Eve -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Just ran across this interesting statistic on the Web today. I knew the poverty and unemployment were high in Vojvodina. The locals complain of lack of opportunities and the corruption of the government as a contributing factor. Sad. It is such a beautiful area. Rita from Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz The world's most miserable countries Many factors lead to extreme unhappiness, including finances and well-being. These nations report suffering a withering degree of these conditions. No. 5: Serbia Positive experience index score: 54 (tied – 4th lowest) Percent smiled or laughed: 45 percent (3rd lowest) GDP per capita: $11,085 (65th highest) Life expectancy: 74 (49th highest) The Serbian people have not had a particularly pleasant recent history, starting with the Yugoslav wars in the early 1990s and later the Kosovo War. These bloody, armed conflicts were accompanied by war crimes committed by most parties. The Republic of Serbia, its most recent formation, was established in 2006. The country's political corruption and weak economy likely only added to Serbians' lack of positivity. Nearly one in four Serbians are unemployed, among the highest unemployment rates of the countries surveyed. Just 45 percent of Serbian respondents said they laughed or smiled in the previous day, and 49 percent said they felt well-rested — both among the lowest of all of the countries.

You need this entire address as shown below: http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_INT_ENG.pdf Tony> From: jodymckimpharr@comcast.net > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:54:03 -0400 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary > > If this link does not work, copy and paste the entire link all the way > through to .pdf and paste into your browser > > http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I > NT_ENG.pdf > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jody McKim > Pharr > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:38 AM > To: DVHH Mail List > Subject: [DVHH] Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary > > A wonderful presentation by the Donauschwäbisches Zentralmuseum on a pdf > format: > > > > Migration in the Danube Region > > Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary > > > > Here is a tiny snippet, and link below: > > > > Because the authorities generally only permitted immigrants to enter > > the country as families, many of those who were not yet married > > found themselves forced to marry before departing or, by the latest, > > somewhere along the way. Records for many such marriages can be > > found at churches in Danube ports and places such as the Wengen > > Church in Ulm. During the first decades of settlement, > > a remarkably large number of widows and widowers were among > > the couples to wed this way. For example, > > only one third of the marriages performed in communities of the > > Bóly (Bohl) estate were for two persons who had never before been > > married. It was part of the settlers’ survival strategy related to the high > > mortality rate: Widowed persons could not run a farm alone, so it was > > often necessary to remarry within just weeks of a spouse’s death. > > > > For many men, marrying a widow was the easiest way to get residency. > > Young women, too, profited from marrying an older widower, thereby > > gaining a secure livelihood. It was thus quite common to find significant > > age differences between spouses. All of this resulted in unusual family > > structures where children from different marriages lived together. Children > > who had lost one or both parents stayed in the new family or were > > placed with foster parents. Their mortality rate was nonetheless > exceptionally > > high, especially among infants and toddlers. > > > > Also this is included in the presentation which may be of interest to some > of you: > > “All nationalities – Hungarians, Germans, Slovakians, Raizes and Wallachians > – were warmly welcomed.” > > Different Migration Movements Meet and Clash > > > > All and MUCH more found here: > > http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I > NT_ENG.pdf > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Jody > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have been invited to the following event. Title: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 170 When: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:30pm - 3:30pm Eastern Time - Melbourne, Sydney Calendar: carolaklein7@gmail.com Who: * Carola Klein - organizer * donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com * donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmd1cWd0NmZsajBhZjE5cWY5Yjlocm5jNDQgZG9uYXVzY2h3YWJlbi12aWxsYWdlc0Byb290c3dlYi5jb20&tok=MjIjY2Fyb2xha2xlaW43QGdtYWlsLmNvbWIyN2UzMzVkZjVlM2E4ODZhYjJmZmRkOGI2MDI0ZGJmNDFlZGJmMjI&ctz=Australia/Sydney&hl=en Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this courtesy email at the account donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at https://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

If this link does not work, copy and paste the entire link all the way through to .pdf and paste into your browser http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I NT_ENG.pdf -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jody McKim Pharr Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:38 AM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary A wonderful presentation by the Donauschwäbisches Zentralmuseum on a pdf format: Migration in the Danube Region Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary Here is a tiny snippet, and link below: Because the authorities generally only permitted immigrants to enter the country as families, many of those who were not yet married found themselves forced to marry before departing or, by the latest, somewhere along the way. Records for many such marriages can be found at churches in Danube ports and places such as the Wengen Church in Ulm. During the first decades of settlement, a remarkably large number of widows and widowers were among the couples to wed this way. For example, only one third of the marriages performed in communities of the Bóly (Bohl) estate were for two persons who had never before been married. It was part of the settlers’ survival strategy related to the high mortality rate: Widowed persons could not run a farm alone, so it was often necessary to remarry within just weeks of a spouse’s death. For many men, marrying a widow was the easiest way to get residency. Young women, too, profited from marrying an older widower, thereby gaining a secure livelihood. It was thus quite common to find significant age differences between spouses. All of this resulted in unusual family structures where children from different marriages lived together. Children who had lost one or both parents stayed in the new family or were placed with foster parents. Their mortality rate was nonetheless exceptionally high, especially among infants and toddlers. Also this is included in the presentation which may be of interest to some of you: “All nationalities – Hungarians, Germans, Slovakians, Raizes and Wallachians – were warmly welcomed.” Different Migration Movements Meet and Clash All and MUCH more found here: http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I NT_ENG.pdf Enjoy, Jody ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A wonderful presentation by the Donauschwäbisches Zentralmuseum on a pdf format: Migration in the Danube Region Eighteenth-Century German Migration to Hungary Here is a tiny snippet, and link below: Because the authorities generally only permitted immigrants to enter the country as families, many of those who were not yet married found themselves forced to marry before departing or, by the latest, somewhere along the way. Records for many such marriages can be found at churches in Danube ports and places such as the Wengen Church in Ulm. During the first decades of settlement, a remarkably large number of widows and widowers were among the couples to wed this way. For example, only one third of the marriages performed in communities of the Bóly (Bohl) estate were for two persons who had never before been married. It was part of the settlers’ survival strategy related to the high mortality rate: Widowed persons could not run a farm alone, so it was often necessary to remarry within just weeks of a spouse’s death. For many men, marrying a widow was the easiest way to get residency. Young women, too, profited from marrying an older widower, thereby gaining a secure livelihood. It was thus quite common to find significant age differences between spouses. All of this resulted in unusual family structures where children from different marriages lived together. Children who had lost one or both parents stayed in the new family or were placed with foster parents. Their mortality rate was nonetheless exceptionally high, especially among infants and toddlers. Also this is included in the presentation which may be of interest to some of you: “All nationalities – Hungarians, Germans, Slovakians, Raizes and Wallachians – were warmly welcomed.” Different Migration Movements Meet and Clash All and MUCH more found here: http://www.danube-places.eu/images/katalog/ungarn%20schwaben%20katalog_dzm_I NT_ENG.pdf Enjoy, Jody