On 7/14/2014 2:15 PM, Barb D wrote: > Hi Ken, > Thanks so much for your generous reply. > I have been at a standstill for awhile now. So any info you can send > me will be very appreciated. > I live in Elk Grove, Ill. Where do u live? > What I need is all the info for all: > BRATAN (BRATTAN) I have pages 88, 89 &91 but need all others. > LOIBL have page 392 need all others > KINTSCH have 286 need all others > > The other names I need, I am not sure if they are in this book or not. > But if they are need all info on them also. > JUNGER > LEIMETTER > KOST > FRESZ > > I hope that this is not to much. > Thanks so very much, > Barb D. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Murphy > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:59 AM > To: Barb D ; DVHH > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Wiseschdia family book > > On 7/11/2014 12:14 PM, Barb D wrote: >> Hi! >> I am wondering if anyone has the Wiseschdia family book and would be >> interested in selling it? >> I contacted the people who had it, but they lost all the extras in a >> flood. >> Robert Evensen has been very helpful, but I need a lot of info from >> this book. >> Thanks, Barb D. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > Barb, I've got a copy. I can copy things from it for you if you give me > the family names. > > -- Ken > There are 3 more pages ... 287, 288 and 289. It would be easier for me to scan them and email, OK?
Hi Beth, Could you please do a look up in Apatin for Anna Backer , born around1865 , married a Peter Weigang ? .thanks for any help. Harold Bratsko
Russlandopfer = its Russian Casualty From: donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com Subject: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 192 To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 01:00:04 -0600 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:30:52 -0400 Subject: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: To: revensen@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:43:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Russiandopfer I suspect that it is a misspelling. It looks like "Russian" or "Russland" for Russia + "Opfer" meaning victim. Where did you find it? Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 16:31 An: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Betreff: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: To: manfred@roux.de; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:01:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Thanks Manfred. You are correct. The print is so small I misread it. It is listed twice in the Wiseschdia Fb under no. 46 - ARON, Karl. page 26. Karl Aron dies 1946 Russlandopfer and his daughter Christina Aron dies 25.10.1945 Großwardein, Russlandopfer. Robert Evensen -----Original Message----- From: Manfred Roux Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:43 AM To: 'Robert Evensen' ; DVHH Mail List Subject: AW: [DVHH] Russiandopfer I suspect that it is a misspelling. It looks like "Russian" or "Russland" for Russia + "Opfer" meaning victim. Where did you find it? Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 16:31 An: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Betreff: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I suspect that it is a misspelling. It looks like "Russian" or "Russland" for Russia + "Opfer" meaning victim. Where did you find it? Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 16:31 An: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Betreff: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Manfred. You are correct. The print is so small I misread it. It is listed twice in the Wiseschdia Fb under no. 46 - ARON, Karl. page 26. Karl Aron dies 1946 Russlandopfer and his daughter Christina Aron dies 25.10.1945 Großwardein, Russlandopfer. Robert Evensen -----Original Message----- From: Manfred Roux Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:43 AM To: 'Robert Evensen' ; DVHH Mail List Subject: AW: [DVHH] Russiandopfer I suspect that it is a misspelling. It looks like "Russian" or "Russland" for Russia + "Opfer" meaning victim. Where did you find it? Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 16:31 An: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Betreff: [DVHH] Russiandopfer Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can someone tell me what Russiandopfer means as a death place? Thanks. Robert Evensen
Darlene, thanks very much for your research. I had already collected and screened the information on the Schowe website. I particularly looked at the last residents in 1944. I suspect that Rena's grandfather on her father's side was "Hetzel, Ludwig, 1878, ev., † im Lager Jarek; Wolf-Gasse (Schiller-Gasse) 27"; his data would seem to match her father's (Hetzel, Ludwig, 26. 6. 1922; 14 -- Seil-Gasse). As an additional indication, her brother was also named Ludwig... Seems to be a collection of Ludwigs there! But I am just not certain. Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2014 06:35 An: Manfred Roux; royengel@rogers.com; DVHH Webmaster Betreff: Re: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel Manfred, Roy: I haven't found the detailed info, but here's what I found so far - these are handwritten notes and are incomplete, but they are very interesting. Peter Hetzel, born 1760 - Rappoltsweiler, Alsace-Lorraine (perhaps someone in the group recognizes this town???) From the DVHH website: http://www.dvhh.org/schowe/resources/settlers.html I found the following info --- 53. Hetzel, Adam, Evangelical Lutheran., his wife was Elizabeth Taglieber. He died at age 50 in 1836. 54. Hetzel, George, Evangelical Lutheran., married in 1811 the daughter of Michael Haller, Magdalena Haller he died at age 55 in 1848 55. Hetzel, Peter, Evangelical Lutheran., married in 1813 Eva Morgenstern, daughter of Sebastian Morgenstern. - These three (53,54, 55) were brother and sons of the deceased Peter Hetzel who died at age 73 in 1833 I believe that these 2 Peter Hetzels are the same - the one born in 1760 in my notes - and the one here who died in 1833, aged 73 (so born abt 1760). ====================================================================== Some info on the Febel side: Jakob Hetzel, born Jan 10, 1920 - married to - Katharina Febel, born Nov 28, 1923 Peter Febel, born Mar 20, 1902 - lived in Batschka - ancestors from the Pfalz George Febel - born 1856 This doesn't match with the Febel info on the same DVHH page listed above, but it does show that FEBELs were in Schowe. 19. Febel, Wilhelm, Reformed Lutheran, Son of Christian Febel from Tscherwenka. In 1844 he married Maria Pataky, daughter of Stephan Pataky. --------------------------------------------------------- Neu Schowe - "Ravnoselo" - even plains Heinrichsbrun, Bavaria (not sure why I have this written down) Antonia Harden (Bohemia)- this was another ancestor, not sure if from the Febel side or the Hetzel side. ============================================================== More info when I find the rest of my notes. Darlene Manfred Roux wrote: > Darlene, > > thank you. Further information on that family would be appreciated. > The Jacob who died in Windsor could have been a brother of my wife's > father (born 1922); but unfortunately that generation (her > grandfather's) is still very unclear to us. > Thank you once again! > > Manfred > > > Manfred Roux > Hohenzollernstr 60 > 71067 Sindelfingen > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 19:03 > An: royengel@rogers.com; Manfred Roux; DVHH Mail List > Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel > > I have the following information: > > Jacob Hetzel, born about 1920 Schowe, died 2004, Windsor, Ontario, > Canada. Married to Katharina, who died in 1992. > > Son of Philipp and Katharina, from Schowe; twin brother of Philipp and > brother of Anna. Predeceased by all of these. > > > In 1942 he was a violinist in the Hungarian Opera Radio Orchestra. > > I have more information on the family, but I have to find it, which > could take a few days :) Will get back to you. > > Darlene > > > > royengel@rogers.com wrote: >> Hi Manfred, >> I am the co-coordinator for Kischker, which lies only a few > kilometers north-east of Schowe. Although the Kischker Familienbuch > does not have a record of either of these ancestors, both Hetzel and > Ziwich names existed in small numbers in Kischker. Unfortunately, the > information is imcomplete. However, this may give you some possible > leads. >> >> Hetzel, (given name unknown) (evangelisch) born approx. 1890 > in Schowe He married Margaretha Roth "Krischdin-Lisse" born > 14.08.1894 in Kischker. >> >> Hetzel, Friedrich (ev.) born approx. 1855 in Schowe, died in > Torschau. He married Elisabetha Schmidt (born 16.02.1859 in > Kischker) on 29.04.1877 in Kischker. >> There is no record of any sons born to them. They had two > daughters: 1) Rosina Theresia 2) Theresia. >> >> Ziwich,Michael (ev.) born approx. 1835 in Schowe. He married I. > Theresia Sohl (ev.) (born approx. 1837 in Kischker) on 30.01.1853 in > Neu-Schowe. There is no record of any offspring. >> He married II. Magdalena Haller (ev.) (born approx. 1840) in approx. > 1864 in Neu-Schowe. They had one son, Philipp, born approx. 1865 in > Schowe. He married Katharina Eidenmueller (ev.) born 20.04.1869 in > Kischker. There is no record of any offspring. >> >> I don't think that this is much help for you, but perhaps if someone > else has some Schowe records, these people might be connected with > your wife's ancestors. >> >> Roy >> >> >> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:00:29 AM, Manfred Roux <manfred@roux.de> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I am married to Renate Krüger, nee Hetzel, daughter of Ludwig Hetzel >> (born 22 Jun 1922, Alt Schowe) and Theresia Ziwich (born 4 Apr 1923, >> Alt Schowe). Does anyone have information about the heritage of > Ludwig >> Hetzel? Any information or lead would be welcome. >> >> Manfred Roux >> 71067 Sindelfingen >> Germany >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >> > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html
Oops - sent this email to the wrong DVHH email address.
Hi Ken I am also interested in the Kintsch from Wiseschdia. Thanks Fram Matkovich Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages To: Ken Murphy, DVHH Sent: July 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Wiseschdia family book Hi Ken, Thanks so much for your generous reply. I have been at a standstill for awhile now. So any info you can send me will be very appreciated. I live in Elk Grove, Ill. Where do u live? What I need is all the info for all: BRATAN (BRATTAN) I have pages 88, 89 &91 but need all others. LOIBL have page 392 need all others KINTSCH have 286 need all others The other names I need, I am not sure if they are in this book or not. But if they are need all info on them also. JUNGER LEIMETTER KOST FRESZ I hope that this is not to much. Thanks so very much, Barb D. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Murphy Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:59 AM To: Barb D ; DVHH Subject: Re: [DVHH] Wiseschdia family book On 7/11/2014 12:14 PM, Barb D wrote: > Hi! > I am wondering if anyone has the Wiseschdia family book and would be > interested in selling it? > I contacted the people who had it, but they lost all the extras in a > flood. > Robert Evensen has been very helpful, but I need a lot of info from this > book. > Thanks, Barb D. >>>> ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Barb, I've got a copy. I can copy things from it for you if you give me the family names. -- Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Ken, Thanks so much for your generous reply. I have been at a standstill for awhile now. So any info you can send me will be very appreciated. I live in Elk Grove, Ill. Where do u live? What I need is all the info for all: BRATAN (BRATTAN) I have pages 88, 89 &91 but need all others. LOIBL have page 392 need all others KINTSCH have 286 need all others The other names I need, I am not sure if they are in this book or not. But if they are need all info on them also. JUNGER LEIMETTER KOST FRESZ I hope that this is not to much. Thanks so very much, Barb D. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Murphy Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:59 AM To: Barb D ; DVHH Subject: Re: [DVHH] Wiseschdia family book On 7/11/2014 12:14 PM, Barb D wrote: > Hi! > I am wondering if anyone has the Wiseschdia family book and would be > interested in selling it? > I contacted the people who had it, but they lost all the extras in a > flood. > Robert Evensen has been very helpful, but I need a lot of info from this > book. > Thanks, Barb D. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Barb, I've got a copy. I can copy things from it for you if you give me the family names. -- Ken
Darlene, thank you. Further information on that family would be appreciated. The Jacob who died in Windsor could have been a brother of my wife's father (born 1922); but unfortunately that generation (her grandfather's) is still very unclear to us. Thank you once again! Manfred Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 19:03 An: royengel@rogers.com; Manfred Roux; DVHH Mail List Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel I have the following information: Jacob Hetzel, born about 1920 Schowe, died 2004, Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Married to Katharina, who died in 1992. Son of Philipp and Katharina, from Schowe; twin brother of Philipp and brother of Anna. Predeceased by all of these. In 1942 he was a violinist in the Hungarian Opera Radio Orchestra. I have more information on the family, but I have to find it, which could take a few days :) Will get back to you. Darlene royengel@rogers.com wrote: > Hi Manfred, > I am the co-coordinator for Kischker, which lies only a few kilometers north-east of Schowe. Although the Kischker Familienbuch does not have a record of either of these ancestors, both Hetzel and Ziwich names existed in small numbers in Kischker. Unfortunately, the information is imcomplete. However, this may give you some possible leads. > > Hetzel, (given name unknown) (evangelisch) born approx. 1890 in Schowe He married Margaretha Roth "Krischdin-Lisse" born 14.08.1894 in Kischker. > > Hetzel, Friedrich (ev.) born approx. 1855 in Schowe, died in Torschau. He married Elisabetha Schmidt (born 16.02.1859 in Kischker) on 29.04.1877 in Kischker. > There is no record of any sons born to them. They had two daughters: 1) Rosina Theresia 2) Theresia. > > Ziwich,Michael (ev.) born approx. 1835 in Schowe. He married I. Theresia Sohl (ev.) (born approx. 1837 in Kischker) on 30.01.1853 in Neu-Schowe. There is no record of any offspring. > He married II. Magdalena Haller (ev.) (born approx. 1840) in approx. 1864 in Neu-Schowe. They had one son, Philipp, born approx. 1865 in Schowe. He married Katharina Eidenmueller (ev.) born 20.04.1869 in Kischker. There is no record of any offspring. > > I don't think that this is much help for you, but perhaps if someone else has some Schowe records, these people might be connected with your wife's ancestors. > > Roy > > > On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:00:29 AM, Manfred Roux <manfred@roux.de> wrote: > > > > I am married to Renate Krüger, nee Hetzel, daughter of Ludwig Hetzel > (born 22 Jun 1922, Alt Schowe) and Theresia Ziwich (born 4 Apr 1923, > Alt Schowe). Does anyone have information about the heritage of Ludwig > Hetzel? Any information or lead would be welcome. > > Manfred Roux > 71067 Sindelfingen > Germany > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html
Roy, thank you very much for your information. The grandfather I look for must have been born between 1870 and 1900. Unfortunately my wife does not recall her grandfather's first name. I got a hint that other members of the family ended up in Cleveland, so this is where I continue my search... Thanks once again! Manfred Manfred Roux 71067 Sindelfingen Von: royengel@rogers.com [mailto:royengel@rogers.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 18:03 An: Manfred Roux; DVHH Mail List Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel Hi Manfred, I am the co-coordinator for Kischker, which lies only a few kilometers north-east of Schowe. Although the Kischker Familienbuch does not have a record of either of these ancestors, both Hetzel and Ziwich names existed in small numbers in Kischker. Unfortunately, the information is imcomplete. However, this may give you some possible leads. Hetzel, (given name unknown) (evangelisch) born approx. 1890 in Schowe He married Margaretha Roth "Krischdin-Lisse" born 14.08.1894 in Kischker. Hetzel, Friedrich (ev.) born approx. 1855 in Schowe, died in Torschau. He married Elisabetha Schmidt (born 16.02.1859 in Kischker) on 29.04.1877 in Kischker. There is no record of any sons born to them. They had two daughters: 1) Rosina Theresia 2) Theresia. Ziwich,Michael (ev.) born approx. 1835 in Schowe. He married I. Theresia Sohl (ev.) (born approx. 1837 in Kischker) on 30.01.1853 in Neu-Schowe. There is no record of any offspring. He married II. Magdalena Haller (ev.) (born approx. 1840) in approx. 1864 in Neu-Schowe. They had one son, Philipp, born approx. 1865 in Schowe. He married Katharina Eidenmueller (ev.) born 20.04.1869 in Kischker. There is no record of any offspring. I don't think that this is much help for you, but perhaps if someone else has some Schowe records, these people might be connected with your wife's ancestors. Roy On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:00:29 AM, Manfred Roux <manfred@roux.de> wrote: I am married to Renate Krüger, nee Hetzel, daughter of Ludwig Hetzel (born 22 Jun 1922, Alt Schowe) and Theresia Ziwich (born 4 Apr 1923, Alt Schowe). Does anyone have information about the heritage of Ludwig Hetzel? Any information or lead would be welcome. Manfred Roux 71067 Sindelfingen Germany ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 7/11/2014 12:14 PM, Barb D wrote: > Hi! > I am wondering if anyone has the Wiseschdia family book and would be interested in selling it? > I contacted the people who had it, but they lost all the extras in a flood. > Robert Evensen has been very helpful, but I need a lot of info from this book. > Thanks, Barb D. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Barb, I've got a copy. I can copy things from it for you if you give me the family names. -- Ken
Bill, Thanks. That Magdalena born in Kolut died young. A daughter born in April 1846 in Katymar was again named Magdalena. It looks like the Kolut church books at the LDS won't help because I need records before 1826, which are at the archives. --Dave Velten From: Bill Herman [mailto:billherm4361@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:49 PM To: David Velten; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] FALLER and THESS from Kolut Dave The OSB for Kolut has Magdalena born 02.08.1835 in Kolut and she died 18.07.1837 in Kolut. She was the 4th child. I don't know how accurate the information is in the OSB for Kolut. Before I bought the OSB for Kolut I checked the church records for the Catholic Church in Kolut at my local LDS research center. I think the church records go from 1826 to 1895. Bill
Dave - here is another thought. May cost you a few $. Vesna Ibrahimovic used to be on the DVHH List. Not sure what happened but she told me awhile back she is no longer on. Her e-mail is: mountain_riverside@yahoo.com Feel free to use my name if you write to her. She has access to the Sombor Archives and did some research for me a couple years ago & should have access to the early Confirmation records. She has a daughter that lives in New York so I was able to send my fee to her in U.S. dollars. Judy On Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:07 AM, "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: Bill, Thanks. That Magdalena born in Kolut died young. A daughter born in April 1846 in Katymar was again named Magdalena. It looks like the Kolut church books at the LDS won't help because I need records before 1826, which are at the archives. --Dave Velten From: Bill Herman [mailto:billherm4361@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:49 PM To: David Velten; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] FALLER and THESS from Kolut Dave The OSB for Kolut has Magdalena born 02.08.1835 in Kolut and she died 18.07.1837 in Kolut. She was the 4th child. I don't know how accurate the information is in the OSB for Kolut. Before I bought the OSB for Kolut I checked the church records for the Catholic Church in Kolut at my local LDS research center. I think the church records go from 1826 to 1895. Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dave The OSB for Kolut has Magdalena born 02.08.1835 in Kolut and she died 18.07.1837 in Kolut. She was the 4th child. I don't know how accurate the information is in the OSB for Kolut. Before I bought the OSB for Kolut I checked the church records for the Catholic Church in Kolut at my local LDS research center. I think the church records go from 1826 to 1895. Bill On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:42 PM, David Velten <dvelten@gmx.com> wrote: Bill, Thanks for that information. They lived in Kolut until 1845, going to Katymar somewhere between the death of their daughter Julianna in Nov 1845 and the birth of their daughter Magdalena in Apr 1846. Both Martin and Katharina died in Katymar. --Dave Velten From: Bill Herman [mailto:billherm4361@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:33 PM To: David Velten; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] FALLER and THESS from Kolut David I have the OSB for Kolut 1760-1895 by the Englanders. It has entry # 3797 a Martin Thees, born about 1805 in Gakowa, parents T. Phillip u Anna Marie. Married 13.11.1827 in Kolut, witness's Martin Miller, Adam Weber. To Katharina Faller born about 1810, no parents listed. This is the only information listed on Katharina. They had 7 children. This maybe who your looking for. Do you know if any of their relatives were living in Kolut in 1944? I have a book that lists all the people living in Kolut in 1944. With some of them it lists where the went when they left Kolut. Bill Herman
Bill, Thanks for that information. They lived in Kolut until 1845, going to Katymar somewhere between the death of their daughter Julianna in Nov 1845 and the birth of their daughter Magdalena in Apr 1846. Both Martin and Katharina died in Katymar. --Dave Velten From: Bill Herman [mailto:billherm4361@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:33 PM To: David Velten; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] FALLER and THESS from Kolut David I have the OSB for Kolut 1760-1895 by the Englanders. It has entry # 3797 a Martin Thees, born about 1805 in Gakowa, parents T. Phillip u Anna Marie. Married 13.11.1827 in Kolut, witness's Martin Miller, Adam Weber. To Katharina Faller born about 1810, no parents listed. This is the only information listed on Katharina. They had 7 children. This maybe who your looking for. Do you know if any of their relatives were living in Kolut in 1944? I have a book that lists all the people living in Kolut in 1944. With some of them it lists where the went when they left Kolut. Bill Herman
David I have the OSB for Kolut 1760-1895 by the Englanders. It has entry # 3797 a Martin Thees, born about 1805 in Gakowa, parents T. Phillip u Anna Marie. Married 13.11.1827 in Kolut, witness's Martin Miller, Adam Weber. To Katharina Faller born about 1810, no parents listed. This is the only information listed on Katharina. They had 7 children. This maybe who your looking for. Do you know if any of their relatives were living in Kolut in 1944? I have a book that lists all the people living in Kolut in 1944. With some of them it lists where the went when they left Kolut. Bill Herman On Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:12 AM, David Velten <dvelten@gmx.com> wrote: My ancestor, Martin Thess (b. 1805 Gakova), married Katharina Faller (b. 1812) on 13 Nov 1827 in Kolut and they later moved to Katymar (http://www.dvelten.net/vaf-o/p872.htm#i8718 ). The Kolut church marriage record does not list parents of either spouse. I bought Jakob Schuy's new Kolut book, which covers the earlier period 1760-1825. This period does not cover the marriage in 1827 but I hoped it might have Katharina's birth and family. Lots of Faller families but nothing matching Katharina's info. The Katymar book by Joseph Pahl has the Martin Thess family but no information on Katharina's parents. I assume the other Kolut book covering 1826 on does not have information on her family or Joseph Pahl would have used that info in his book. Anyone have knowledge of this family or suggestions on how to find Katharina Faller's family? Thanks, Dave Velten dvelten@gmail.com http://www.dvelten.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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