Dear Banat Family Researchers, The St. Hubert Family book is finished, and will be published by the AVBF in Germany. Dave Dreyer and I are happy to have completed the work. The work is over 1,600 pages and includes over 6,300 families. It will be published as a 2-volume set. The manuscript is with the printer now, and we expect the books to ship at the end of October. The price is 80 euros + shipping from Germany. The AVBF is also offering special pricing for the new book set AND the CD version of Josef Kühn's Familienbuch St. Hubert (2004), when purchased together, for 85 euros + shipping. Please email me off-list to place your order. I will be contacting everyone who pre-ordered the books to confirm shipping addresses. Many thanks, --Karen Preston

Try looking here.......... http://www.dvhh.org/cooking-donauschwaben-style/ Steve Berwanger Sent from my iPad > On Oct 5, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Karl Steinmetz via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Does anyone have the recipe for the big sauerkraut dumplings? The dumplings > could either be large and soft or large and hard--possibly these were fried > or baked somehow. > Karl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Does anyone have the recipe for the big sauerkraut dumplings? The dumplings could either be large and soft or large and hard--possibly these were fried or baked somehow. Karl

Noelle, working on it - just will take me a bit as I figure things out once again. Found the index so I'm half way there - will send in private. Eve On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Noelle via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can someone who has the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD please do a lookup for me? > > I am looking for Gieße and any variations, i.e. Gieß, Giese, Giesey > > Thanks in advance! > Noelle > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

*It is with sadness that we announce that Anton Klein passed away peacefully at home on September 15, 2014. He was born in Semlin, Yugoslavia on May 4, 1934. Tony and his family are long-time members and supporters of the Dance Group. He is survived by his wife of 59 years, Maria Klein, son Tony Klein, Jr., daughter Linda (John) Gullotti, and grandsons, Kevin Klein, Nicholas and Matthew Hemm. A memorial mass in his honor will be held on Saturday, November 8, 10:30 am at Mary Star of the Sea Church in San Pedro located at 870 West 8th Street, San Pedro, California 90731.* *Our entire German community sends their condolences to his wife and family.*

Looking for any info on Susana Them and Peter Dishott from Fibis. Susana's parent's names?? They had a son Pal born Dec 14, 1839. Any other children?? Dishott may be spelled differently as the church records were a bit hard to read. Thank. Marge Sent from my iPhone

How very sad . . . she certainly contributed much--I can remember reading her material when I first studied my quest for family history. So young. May she rest in peace. May God bless Susan Clarkson and may God bless those who love her and will miss her. Rose Mary Keller Hughes -----Original Message----- From: Karen Dalton Preston via Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:16 AM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] OBITUARY Dave Dreyer posted this to the Banat List late last night. Since he is not a DVHH subscriber, I am posting it it here as well. --Karen Preston SUSAN ELAINE CLARKSON PhD 1 Aug 1945----11 Sep 2014 The Donauschwaben research community in America has lost one of its most distinguished members. Sue Clarkson of Croswell Michigan was the daughter of Laurence Clarkson and Elisabeth Quitter. She obtained Bachelor and Masters degrees from Central Michigan University and a PhD from Michigan State University. She was employed for 30 years in the office of the Dean of Students at Central Michigan University. Sue is survived by a daughter, Amy Repp, and four siblings. Sue was one of the founding members of the Banat mailing list but likely her greatest contribution to the field is as author of the Johannisfeld family book which was published in 2000. Johannisfeld was the family’s ancestral Banat village. Today, with liberal access to Romanian archives, the general availability of abundant research materials and contacts, we often forget the obstacles to Banat family research which existed just 15 years ago. Sue was not raised in a Donauschwaben milieu but through her industry and persistence she overcame these formidable difficulties. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Can someone who has the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD please do a lookup for me? I am looking for Gieße and any variations, i.e. Gieß, Giese, Giesey Thanks in advance! Noelle

Hello, I am looking for the parents and siblings of Anna Zuber born May 5, 1868 in Gizellafalva Romania. Her parents died when she was 8 in 1876? And she was married to Heinrich Schuetz (Schutz) and had 4 boys, Peter, Henry, John and Frank. She had a daughter that died young. She came to USA New York in 1909 on the SS Main with 2 of her boys, John and Frank. I am her granddaughter. I have see her village of Maslak ( Blumenthal) where she last lived before immigration and Gizella but I have no information about her family. Please assist or let me know who to contact. Thank you so much Dr. Christine Schutz drcmschutz@gmail.com

Dave Dreyer posted this to the Banat List late last night. Since he is not a DVHH subscriber, I am posting it it here as well. --Karen Preston SUSAN ELAINE CLARKSON PhD 1 Aug 1945----11 Sep 2014 The Donauschwaben research community in America has lost one of its most distinguished members. Sue Clarkson of Croswell Michigan was the daughter of Laurence Clarkson and Elisabeth Quitter. She obtained Bachelor and Masters degrees from Central Michigan University and a PhD from Michigan State University. She was employed for 30 years in the office of the Dean of Students at Central Michigan University. Sue is survived by a daughter, Amy Repp, and four siblings. Sue was one of the founding members of the Banat mailing list but likely her greatest contribution to the field is as author of the Johannisfeld family book which was published in 2000. Johannisfeld was the family’s ancestral Banat village. Today, with liberal access to Romanian archives, the general availability of abundant research materials and contacts, we often forget the obstacles to Banat family research which existed just 15 years ago. Sue was not raised in a Donauschwaben milieu but through her industry and persistence she overcame these formidable difficulties.

Dear Banat Researchers, I am posting this announcement on behalf of the the author, Lothar Renard: NEW RELEASE! Volumes 3 and 4 of the Family Books for Triebswetter will be printed and ready for delivery at the end of October 2014. The new volumes are a continuation of the Familienbücher Vol. 1 and 2, published in 2005. The new books contain about 1,600 pages. The reader will now have an overview of his family from 1773-1900. As a supplement, also included is a free DVD with a digitized edition of Vol. 1 and 2 of the Triebswetter Familienbuch, extended with about 120 pages, as well as the entire Kirchenmatrikeln (Triebswetter Church books) in digital form from 1773 to 1900. The printing of family books costs several 1,000 EUR and can generally be financed only by advance payment of the pre-ordered books since family book authors are not able to do this from their own resources. I am now accepting pre-orders for the Triebswetter book, and would therefore be grateful if you would pre-pay the amount of: 85.00 euros for shipment to EU addresses; 105.00 euros to addresses in the U.S. and Canada The price includes shipping and fees (for both) Either via PayPal to: lothar-renard@web.de or by cash by registered mail to: Lothar Renard Gruener Weg 8 53498 Bad Breisig GERMANY For orders from Europe, the author will contact the purchaser privately to provide bank information. +++++++++++++++++ NEUERSCHEINUNG! Die Bände 3 und 4 der Familienbücher Triebswetter werden Ende Oktober 2014 gedruckt und an die Besteller ausgeliefert. Der Druck von Familienbüchern kosten mehrere 1,000 EUR und kann generell nur durch vorherige Bezahlung von Seiten der Vorbesteller finanziert werden, da kaum ein Autor in der Lage sein wird, dies aus eigenen Mitteln zu tun. Die neuen Bücher ergänzen auf 1600 Seiten die Daten aus den Kirchenmatrikeln von Band 1+2 bis zum 31.12.1900, so dass der Leser einen Gesamtüberblick von 1773-1900 über seine Familie hat. Die Bände 3 und 4 sind gebunden und erhalten einen festen Einband. Ich wäre daher dankbar, wenn Sie den Betrag von 85,00 € für den Versand innerhalb der EU-Adressen; 105,00 € an Adressen in den USA und Kanada Der Preis beinhaltet in beiden Fällen Versand und Kosten im Voraus bezahlen könnten, entweder über PayPal an: lothar-renard@web.de oder cash per Einschreibebrief an: Lothar Renard Gruener Weg 8 53498 Bad Breisig GERMANY Bestellungen aus Europa können per Banküberweisung bezahlt werden. Die Bankdaten werden den Bestellern jeweils mitgeteilt.

Hi Everyone,  maybe someone an help with the below request. Thanks, Jody -------- Original message -------- From DVHH Feedback <contact_request@dvhh.org> Date: 09/25/2014 2:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To dvhh.community@comcast.net Subject Trying to find family from Seultour, Hungary, Nakodorf, St Hubert The following feedback was sent by Rae Anne Schoenbacher (rschoenb@att.net) via the www.dvhh.org Contact page: I cannot find my great grandparents mother and father on either side. Can you help? Louis/Lajos Laub 17 Apr 1888 in st Hubert, seltour Hungary Louis had 3 brothers Adam 9/22/1885 Peter 11/13/1886 Josef 9/22/1889 I have Josef\'s passport I can email to you It says his father name was Arton or Anton Magdalena 3/7/1895 Wife of Louis Laub Katarina Kindlein 22 Aug 1888 in Nagovala, Hung Death 20 Jun 1947 in Cicero, Cook, Illinois DVHH-L Subscriber: N IP Address: 199.15.4.250

Hi everyone, I¹ve been lurking ever so quietly for a long time now, so I do feel somewhat guilty that I only jump in to advertise for this oral history project. We¹ve got about 15 spots left (and if we go over, that¹s even better) before we stop interviewing after Christmas. The oral history project focuses on families who¹ve immigrated from Europe, come from a German cultural background (so Donauschwaben would be included) and somehow contributed to Waterloo Region here in Ontario, Canada (just west of Toronto). So we¹re looking for either immigrants themselves or their children (who¹d now be adults). The project doesn¹t refer just to the war/post-war generation. I even interviewed a young baker in his 30s who came here. Full details are on our website: http://wcgs.ca. Just click on the left on ³Oral History Project.² I¹ve started translating some of the interviews, and they are very interesting. The breadth of experiences of German/Austrian immigrants is incredible. (Swiss is also included in the scope of the project, but so far as I know, no one of German-Swiss heritage has volunteered yet.) Interesting tidbit: I¹m the only one who offered to transcribe two DS interviews because others found the dialect to be really difficult :) So I can¹t wait to do those ones (they¹re next on my list). Anyways, if you¹re interested in participating, you can contact me at work below. We can also do phone interviews if you (or your parents) no longer live in Waterloo Region. You¹d just need to be comfortable chatting on the phone, of course :) I likely won¹t be the one doing the interview, though I have done a couple of them. Interviewers are usually trained graduate students and once in a while a faculty member. I hope everyone has a nice week! Please feel free to get in touch with me if you have any questions at all. Regards, Lori (Wolf-Heffner) Straus Administrative Assistant Waterloo Centre for German Studies <https://artsonline.uwaterloo.ca/wcgs/> University of Waterloo <http://uwaterloo.ca/> Phone: (519) 888-4567 ext. 39267 Email: lstraus@uwaterloo.ca Office hours: M, T, Th, F 8:00 ­ 11:30, 12:00 ­ 1:30

Tony: I wonder if this is the same as the documents my Grandfather Schwarz sent to the Department of External Affairs in Ottawa. Dated March 30, 1971 . File 81-8-YUGO >From the pages that were sent, I was able to take the information and apply for restitution to the Serbian Government. What is interesting enough is that when the property, land and 50 acres of vineyards in Ridjica was confiscated, our family held Canadian Citizenship and were British Subjects. (Actually I wasn`t born until 1942 and they returned in 1939). What a mistake that was!! I just wonder if that would help my case with Serbia right now, but I doubt it. This is some of what the Canadian Government wrote: `For your background information we might explain that it was possible for a former owner of expropriated property in Yugoslavia to obtain limited compensation under an agreement concluded in 1948 between British and Yugoslav Governments provided they had Canadian citizenship or other British subject status on January 1, 1949.` The letter goes on to say that if one did not apply by February, 1951 the could not get compensation. Apparently it was published in the `Canada Gazette`. What is the Canada Gazette - and who ever heard of it. Further in 1951, people were trying to pay back the monies that they borrowed for their flights and trying to save every penny. They were poorer than the poorest. They weren`t even in Toronto in 1948, but were with my great uncle in Cleveland having just been released from Gakowa or Krushivjle. What a joke!!! rom: Tony Fieder via Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:02 PM To: DVHH Subject: Re: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution My parents filed for restitution in 1974 from Canada. They owned farmland, a vineyard and a house in Ridica. Their request was denied by the Republic of Yugoslavia. They didn't file an appeal or apply again. Tony > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com; banat-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:28:46 -0600 > Subject: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Hello All.... > > I am looking to start a discussion forum for those who have filed for > restitution from the Republic of Serbia. This could be in English or > German. We could share successes, problems, road blocks, heart aches, and > advice which would benefit all involved. I have had my own difficulties > and I feel that talking to those who might share my experiences would be > very helpful. We are not, and should not, be alone in this endeavor. > > Please consider joining me. It there is an interest.... I will send > details as to where we can do this in a smaller group. I could use advice > and a shoulder to cry on. > > Rita > Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My parents filed for restitution in 1974 from Canada. They owned farmland, a vineyard and a house in Ridica. Their request was denied by the Republic of Yugoslavia. They didn't file an appeal or apply again. Tony > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com; banat-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:28:46 -0600 > Subject: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Hello All.... > > I am looking to start a discussion forum for those who have filed for restitution from the Republic of Serbia. This could be in English or German. We could share successes, problems, road blocks, heart aches, and advice which would benefit all involved. I have had my own difficulties and I feel that talking to those who might share my experiences would be very helpful. We are not, and should not, be alone in this endeavor. > > Please consider joining me. It there is an interest.... I will send details as to where we can do this in a smaller group. I could use advice and a shoulder to cry on. > > Rita > Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

O.K. I am going to post a little something and I am not sure if you all know but just in case - We all have a file number and fortunately I was able to obtain mine. I was able to call my file number up on the internet, and since I cannot read, write, in Serbian or in the old script of the language, I had to give it to someone else to decipher. The file is still sitting with the restitution committee and I doubt anyone will even look at it. However............There were errors on my claim. My paternal grandmother was listed as born in Kosovo in a town similar to Krushivjle, Batschka (Vovodina). It just so happens that she was born in Ridjica, Batschka which is a few km from Krushivjle. Batschka. My MATERNAL grandmother which has nothing to do with the claim was born in Krushivjle and lived there until she came to Canada in the 1920's. How on earth does this happen. It doesn't make sense. Where would this information come from??????? A request was made to the committee and they were asked to correct it. I haven't dared look as I am afraid, but I will!!! I firmly believe that had a request not been made, it would have been thrown out. Apparently I was told that their clerical staff made the error. Hello????? How does this happen. Also the Serbian Consulate in Toronto, Ontario gave me a run around while on the phone. When I went down with my documents for them to stamp they were refused because I did not use a lawyer recommended by them. Well, they never told me in the first place to use one of their lawyers. It was the worst day of my life dealing with them and I was totally, totally stressed. You can`t believe what he he was putting me through. Then he wanted me to come back to him and after I showed him what he requested, and then afterwards, I was to go downtown to the other Serbian Embassy. I telephoned the Serbian Embassy in Ottawa and spoke to a nice lady that was sympathetic. She connected me to the office of the chief. I left a message, and of course he never returned my phone call. I will continue to fight on regardless of any decision. Helga Kiely -----Original Message----- From: Justine Zentner via Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:56 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution Helga, I was trying to get restitution for my mother as well but was lead to understand that this program had expired. Do you or anyone else know more about it and how to accomplish this if it is still a possibility? Justine Zentner On 9/24/2014 12:09 PM, Helga via wrote: > Sorry, but I just wrote an email to Hans, Rita and Noelle and I don’t > think it went through. The only person that possibly received it would be > Hans. Could Rita and Noelle please contact me in case the didn’t get it. > I have a new system and fail to understand it and don’t like it > either!!!!!!!!!! > > Thanks > > kandhkiely@rogers.com > > Helga Kiely > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Helga, I was trying to get restitution for my mother as well but was lead to understand that this program had expired. Do you or anyone else know more about it and how to accomplish this if it is still a possibility? Justine Zentner On 9/24/2014 12:09 PM, Helga via wrote: > Sorry, but I just wrote an email to Hans, Rita and Noelle and I don’t think it went through. The only person that possibly received it would be Hans. Could Rita and Noelle please contact me in case the didn’t get it. I have a new system and fail to understand it and don’t like it either!!!!!!!!!! > > Thanks > > kandhkiely@rogers.com > > Helga Kiely > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, but I just wrote an email to Hans, Rita and Noelle and I don’t think it went through. The only person that possibly received it would be Hans. Could Rita and Noelle please contact me in case the didn’t get it. I have a new system and fail to understand it and don’t like it either!!!!!!!!!! Thanks kandhkiely@rogers.com Helga Kiely

Thank you, Rose Nicholas was my great grandfather. He married Victoria Karasz. The spelling changes make it so hard to search. Going to church records at FHC I found the 4 children. With each child the spelling changes. Szeghy, Szeghi, Saghi, Her death in 1903 used Saghy and listed Temerin. I assume that means where she was born. Johann (Joannes) died in 1895, Saghy was used there. Sombor was listed there but I never did find his birth in Sombor. I was hoping this was the marriage of Johann and Magdalena. It would explain why there were only 4 children since they were older but I can't find earlier children. Certainly if they moved to Palanka they would have brought his (and her) other children. Boys would have been married in the bride's home town. Nicholas married Victoria in Hodschag. My grandmother, Katharina (Katalin), was born there as well as 3 of her 7 sisters. Back to the search. Marlene I can't attach the picture of the recording of the wedding but I will send it to anyone who would like to see it. Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Marlene, > > >I have the Temerin FB, but it does not list a Johannes Toth who married Magdalena Szeghy. > > >I did, however, find several Tothsin the Hodschag FB, among them Nicholaus, son of Johannes Toth and Magdalena Szeghy of Palanka, married Viktoria Karras 01.02.1881. >Children: Katharina *22.11.1886; Viktoria *02.01.1889; Magdalena *07.03.1891; Maria *26.04.1893. > > >Rose > > > >On 23 September 2014 14:02, Marlene Norton via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >> >>A brick wall cracked but only to show another behind it. My Toth family came from Palanka. I found only found 4 births to Joannes Toth and Magdolena Szeghi. Searching other cities I found the marriage of Joannes Toth and Magdalena in Temerin just a year before the first birth. He was a widower 38 (Francisca Varga) and she a widow 31(Josephi Csecne). The handwriting leaves a lot to be desired so the spelling is questionable. Looks like they moved to Palanka right after the wedding. Although there are a lot of Toths in Temerin I don't see any for Joannes and Francisca. >>Would there be a book that shows TOTH in TEMERIN? >>There is a family of Toth's currently living near Palanka. I would love to find the relationship. I know it is not through the four I found in Palanka. >> >>Marlene >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Dear Banat Family Researchers, The St. Hubert Family book is finally finished, and I have sent the manuscript to the AVBF in Germany for publication. Dave Dreyer and I are happy to have completed the work. At this time, we do not have a date for the availability of the book, or a price. I can tell you that the work is over 1,600 pages and includes over 6,300 families. We anticipate that it will be published as a 2-volume set. I will post info on price and availability as soon as I have that info. We are trying to estimate the number of copies for the printer. It would be very helpful to us if you could reply off-list, and confirm your interest in purchasing the books. Many thanks, --Karen Preston