Hello All, On the subject of Kischker and Karlsruhe, I learned of very sad news from Karlsruhe, that Erich Gerber has passed away! http://kischker.de/ [https://homepage-creator.telekom.de/-/CMTOI/cm4all/com/widgets/PhotoToi/18/26/23/49/16060ee6f63/scale_1200_0%3Bdonotenlarge/16060ee6f63]<http://kischker.de/> Kischker in der Batschka - Home<http://kischker.de/> kischker.de Klicken Sie einfach in den Text, um die Fußnote zu bearbeiten. Oder fügen Sie über "Autotext" vorkonfigurierte Textbausteine, wie z.B. das aktuelle Datum ein. Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Connum via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Mailing list membership I just noticed that I sent my reply to Jeff directly instead of the list, so here it is again. :) ----- Hello to all you friendly people and thanks for that warm welcome. I'm going to post a short introduction about myself and my family history here on the list some time soon (probably after all the Christmas hassle). Many Danube Swabians settled where I live, just like my grandparents did, so it might be of interest to some of you. Best wishes from Germany Constantin On 21 December 2017 at 23:12, Kelly Dazet <[email protected]> wrote: > Welcome, Constantin, > > > Constantine has Christian Peter Dietrich and daughter Katharina of > Kischker, Batschka in his tree. This is the same Dietrich family as Jeff > Rau and if my research is correct, my Dietrich family. Hopefully list > members can provide additional information about the family surnames he has > mentioned. > > > Kind regards, > > > Kelly > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <donauschwaben-villages- > [email protected]> on behalf of Darlene Dimitrie via > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:34 PM > *To:* Connum; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [DVHH] Mailing list membership > > Hi Constantin, > Welcome to the DVHH (Donauschwaben Village Helping Hands) mailing lists. > I believe you will find very friendly, helpful people on the list. I > know there are some members from your towns. > -- > Darlene > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all Danube Swabians, their descendants, and the readers of the messages on this List: Have a wonderful Christmas and a very happy new year 2018! My latest book in the Danube-Swabian dialect of Alexanderhausen was published recently in Temeswar/Timişoara. Being sponsored by the local Democratic Forum of the Germans, it is not sold commercially. For anybody who might be interested, the details are published at www.dvhh.org/alexanderhausen Most of the little stories gathered in the book have been previously published in one or both of the newspapers Banater Post (München/Munich) and Banater Zeitung (Bucureşti/Bukcharest). On the website specified above you can read some of the stories in their original dialect, as well as some translations into English. Unfortunately, the specific nuances or character is lost in translation. Nick Tullius

Searching for Margaretha ROTH born about 1788 in Tomsdorf, married in Hatzfeld, married Johann TABAR who was born about 1768 in Heufeld. Thank you, Fran Matkovich

Welcome, Constantin, Constantine has Christian Peter Dietrich and daughter Katharina of Kischker, Batschka in his tree. This is the same Dietrich family as Jeff Rau and if my research is correct, my Dietrich family. Hopefully list members can provide additional information about the family surnames he has mentioned. Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Darlene Dimitrie via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:34 PM To: Connum; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Mailing list membership Hi Constantin, Welcome to the DVHH (Donauschwaben Village Helping Hands) mailing lists. I believe you will find very friendly, helpful people on the list. I know there are some members from your towns. -- Darlene https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvhh.org%2Fmembership%2Fassociates.htm%23D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8073fe5c640c42dfc36408d548bab44a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636494889079521085&sdata=IaOl8wXrs4hHsIKiMhEtDKKeOQOeYnsvBSsZRRbLS70%3D&reserved=0 Connum via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hello Darlene, > > it was suggested to me to contact you in order to become a member of a > Donauschwaben mailing list. I am a descendant of SIMON, FALKENSTEIN, > SCHWEMLEIN and KERESCHER families from Kisker and Gakowa. I'm currently > adding all the information that I already have to WikiTree, and I still > need to find out more about all the other ancestors except the Falkenstein > line (because I already have plenty of information on that). > > Kind regards from Germany > Constantin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Constantine and Kelly, My maternal grandmother, Magdalena (Helen) Moser was born in Kischker in 1897. I checked my family tree and I have Johann Falkenstein (born in 1863) as the husband of my second great-aunt, Christina Moser. I'll send you a copy of my family tree later tonight so you can see if we have any other connections. Best Wishes, Jeff Rau -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 5:13 PM To: Connum; Darlene Dimitrie; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Mailing list membership Welcome, Constantin, Constantine has Christian Peter Dietrich and daughter Katharina of Kischker, Batschka in his tree. This is the same Dietrich family as Jeff Rau and if my research is correct, my Dietrich family. Hopefully list members can provide additional information about the family surnames he has mentioned. Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Darlene Dimitrie via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:34 PM To: Connum; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Mailing list membership Hi Constantin, Welcome to the DVHH (Donauschwaben Village Helping Hands) mailing lists. I believe you will find very friendly, helpful people on the list. I know there are some members from your towns. -- Darlene https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvhh.or g%2Fmembership%2Fassociates.htm%23D&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8073fe5c640c42dfc36408 d548bab44a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636494889079521085&s data=IaOl8wXrs4hHsIKiMhEtDKKeOQOeYnsvBSsZRRbLS70%3D&reserved=0 Connum via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hello Darlene, > > it was suggested to me to contact you in order to become a member of a > Donauschwaben mailing list. I am a descendant of SIMON, FALKENSTEIN, > SCHWEMLEIN and KERESCHER families from Kisker and Gakowa. I'm > currently adding all the information that I already have to WikiTree, > and I still need to find out more about all the other ancestors except > the Falkenstein line (because I already have plenty of information on that). > > Kind regards from Germany > Constantin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Constantin, Welcome to the DVHH (Donauschwaben Village Helping Hands) mailing lists. I believe you will find very friendly, helpful people on the list. I know there are some members from your towns. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D Connum via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > Hello Darlene, > > it was suggested to me to contact you in order to become a member of a > Donauschwaben mailing list. I am a descendant of SIMON, FALKENSTEIN, > SCHWEMLEIN and KERESCHER families from Kisker and Gakowa. I'm currently > adding all the information that I already have to WikiTree, and I still > need to find out more about all the other ancestors except the Falkenstein > line (because I already have plenty of information on that). > > Kind regards from Germany > Constantin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Darlene, it was suggested to me to contact you in order to become a member of a Donauschwaben mailing list. I am a descendant of SIMON, FALKENSTEIN, SCHWEMLEIN and KERESCHER families from Kisker and Gakowa. I'm currently adding all the information that I already have to WikiTree, and I still need to find out more about all the other ancestors except the Falkenstein line (because I already have plenty of information on that). Kind regards from Germany Constantin

Hello Helmut, Thank you for sharing your story.On this page: http://dvhh.org/genealogy/See below text & links. Maybe the your relatives are listed.  Totenbuch der Donauschwaben (The Book of the Dead of the Danube Swabians) - The genocide of the Germans in Yugoslavia between 1944 and 1948 ... The Danube-Swabian Association (DAG) has published this documentation on the Internet making it accessible to all interested persons, particularly to our young generation.  The following file versions are available:PDF, listed alphabetically by SURNAMEPDF, sorted alphabetically by HOME COMMUNITIES.xlsx file, sorted alphabetically by SURNAME.xlsx file, sorted alphabetically by HOME COMMUNITIESA group of us researchers met up in Romania and Tom Betz was there:http://www.dvhh.org/temesquarters/travelers.htm Kind regards,Jody McKim Pharr Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E -------- Original message --------From: PG Baitz via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Date: 11/11/17 12:14 PM (GMT-05:00) To: DVHH Posts <[email protected]>, Banat List <[email protected]> Subject: [DVHH] Hetin, Banat Geneology Search Guidance BAITZ Surname Greetings fellow Schwabians, This is an account from my Tante (Aunt) who is alive and well today, she was born 1930 in Karlovac, Banat and left when she was 13 years old to live with friends in Austria with her mother Mathilde (knee Vojna in Werschetz, Banat), younger brother (my father born Graz, Austria 1937 - they visited Austria over time), and a hired laborer, to avoid the bombing and bloodshed of the war. As they were fleeing "the allies", my father was shot in the leg... they wanted to amputate his leg, but Mathilde would not allow them, which was a very good thing as all healed well in time. My father also corroborated some of this information earlier in my life, but he was seven years younger than my Tante, both children of Anton and Mathilde migrated to The United States of America in the early 1950's. Her father and my Grandfather, Anton Baitz grew up in Hetin, Banat his family was dwelling in the Banat for 250-300 years, they were from the Black Forest region in Germany and came to Banat through Ulm. In Wien the spelling of their surname was changed from Beitz to Baitz. The family practiced the Catholic faith. Anton's father Michael Baitz was a butcher and Anton's mother's name was Magdellena (Lena), they were both taken by the red army and never seen or heard of again after the war as they were proud to be German and stated such to the authorities that divided up the peoples in that area at the time. My Aunts account is they were living with friends in Austria and were ordered to report back to the Banat (then in Jugoslav/Yugoslavia) shortly after the war, my Grandmother spoke multiple languages and said she was Hungarian not German and her daughter was a deaf mute and couldn't talk. That's how they were released, but her father and mother in law were taken away and never seen or heard of again. We can only assume they were taken off to death or labor camps somewhere. They were separated from Anton - who was a doctor - as he had no choice but to serve in the war under duress, and after the war he went to Austria. Anton was a surgeon (later dentist) through University Hospital in Salzburg Austria (he had studied at the University of Graz), he could never find a trace of his parents though he tried very hard to find them. His family lost all their homes, lands and possessions as all was taken from them and many others after the war. Anton Baitz also had an uncle Anton Michael Baitz. See old photos #1 below of his father Michael, wife Magdellena, Anton himself, uncle Anton Michael, and mother of Michael standing in front of their house in Hetin (Tamasfalva). The older woman in front of picture #2 is stated by Anton to be his grandmother, as written on the back with this information by Anton Baitz that I've attached to this posting. I'm seeking to find Michael and Magdellena parents names and surnames and all related ancesters to know our genelogy. Any assitance you can give me to point me in the right direction is much appreciated. Thank you. Helmuth Baitz [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat01.png]. [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat02.png] Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ending tonight. You can gift to someone else, or to yourself, or to renew (if your subscription ends within 90 days). It's true, it's half price. I did it and was happy to see that I was only paying half of what I did before. Just go to: https://www.ancestry.com/cs/gifts/gift-selection?cj=1 <https://www.ancestry.com/cs/gifts/gift-selection?cj=1&mc_cid=dbe83cf6df&mc_ eid=d05e696493&netid=cj&o_xid=0003085979&o_lid=0003085979&o_sch=Affiliate+Ex ternal> &mc_cid=dbe83cf6df&mc_eid=d05e696493&netid=cj&o_xid=0003085979&o_lid=0003085 979&o_sch=Affiliate+External You will need to stop "automatic renewal if you already have membership. Rose Mary Keller Hughes New York State, USA --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Two interesting recordings for those who like Danube-Swabian brass band music: 1. A CD entitled “Das Beste der Donauschwäbischen Blasmusik“ („The best of Danube-Swabian brassband music“) on which each of ten bands present two of their most beautiful titles. 15 Euros plus S&H 2. A DVD on which three bands present a total of 24 titles. 16.95 Euros plus S&H Both can be ordered from [email protected] and a free copy of the CD entitled “Aus der Jugendzeit” (“From times of youth”) will be mailed with every order. Please note that I only reproduced this information from the newspaper Banater Post as being in the public interest and I am not personally involved with any producers or sellers. Best regards, Nick Tullius

Here are lots of articles about Society and Village Life of our Ancestors: http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/society/index.htm I would like to highlight the section on Arts and Music: http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/index.htm#arts-music ----------------------------------------------- Darlene Dimitrie DVHH-L Email List Administrator

Here's a link to Holidays in December on the DVHH website: http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/observances.htm#dec and an essay by Frank Schmidt, one of the first articles published on the DVHH site. http://www.dvhh.org/heritage/traditions/christmas~Schmidt.htm ----------------------------------------------- Darlene Dimitrie DVHH-L Email List Administrator

Hello, Dear list members! Does anyone of you have the Ortssippenbuch Sarwasch-Hirschfeld / Slawonien 1770 ­ 1994 from Johann Platz, printed in 1993? Could you help me with a lookup or does anyone know, where to get the book or informations from it? There are Libraries in Germany, that have that book, but I live in Austria several hours by car away from those libraries. Thank you! Daniela Hieslmayr ([email protected])

My uncle Reinhold Wehner is interviewed in this 1.5 hour documentary released a couple of weeks ago. He (and other interviewees) tell their story about what happened once Tito took over. His story takes place in Heufeld ,Yugoslavia. https://youtu.be/wXVtd3t5QTI

Hello Nick, Thank you greatly for all this detailed information, very much appreciated. We will certainly be looking into this. From my grandfather Anton Baitz, I have a handwritten letter from him to my father in 1978, mentioning that the Baitz name was changed in Wien (Vienna) from Beitz to Baitz, and that the name and family is related to Johannes Beitz and Maria Barbara from 1670 who were in Gehlweiler, Germany. I looked into this, and found an online account of poet Janos Pilinszky whose family traced a marriage connection back to the same Johnnes Beitz and Maria Barbara connection and subsequent Baitz's. ( URL [https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilinszky_J%C3%A1nos ) ](https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilinszky_J%C3%A1nos)I don't know what my grandfather's source was for his written letter account to my father, but the names and years match. But the Pilinszky account of Beitz/Baitz drops to another branch of Baitz's not related to mine. We also received more information about my great-grandfather Michael Baitz on the Banat-L related to the Ostern area of Banat, which is extremely close to Neusiedel and Bogarosch, apparently all areas with the Baitz name. And Hetin (Tamasfalva) where my grandfather Michael Baitz had his house in 1926, is just south/west of there ( just over the modern day Romanian border in modern day Serbia - Vojvodina - border area). Many thanks and good genealogy, Helmuth Baitz Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Hetin, Banat Geneology Search Guidance BAITZ Surname > Local Time: November 11, 2017 2:47 PM > UTC Time: November 11, 2017 7:47 PM > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > 'PG' <[email protected]> > > Hello Helmut, > > Your family history is a sad story, only too typical of what that senseless > war brought to our people. Yes, people could be taken away and never seen or > heard from again. > My maternal grandmother was a BEITZ. Her ancestors came from the Lorraine > (Deutsch-Lothringen) localities of Bühl (Buhl), Dreibrunnen (Trois > Fontaines), Sankt Quirin (Saint-Quirin). > My BEITZ/PAIZ Anton came to Bogarosch (Banat), where he was married in 1787. > His descendants (in my line) were born successively as follows: > BEITZ/PEITZ Franz *1815 in Sigmundfeld; > BEITZ Nikolaus *1855 in Neusiedel; > BEITZ Katharina *1883 in Neusiedel. > The Familienbuch Bogarosch list several other BEITZ families. > Some BEITZ lived, either temporarily or permanently, in Cincinnati Ohio, > USA. > > Good luck in your research! > > Nick Tullius > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PG Baitz > via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:15 > To: DVHH Posts; Banat List > Subject: [DVHH] Hetin, Banat Geneology Search Guidance BAITZ Surname > > Greetings fellow Schwabians, > > This is an account from my Tante (Aunt) who is alive and well today, she was > born 1930 in Karlovac, Banat and left when she was 13 years old to live with > friends in Austria with her mother Mathilde (knee Vojna in Werschetz, > Banat), younger brother (my father born Graz, Austria 1937 - they visited > Austria over time), and a hired laborer, to avoid the bombing and bloodshed > of the war. As they were fleeing "the allies", my father was shot in the > leg... they wanted to amputate his leg, but Mathilde would not allow them, > which was a very good thing as all healed well in time. My father also > corroborated some of this information earlier in my life, but he was seven > years younger than my Tante, both children of Anton and Mathilde migrated to > The United States of America in the early 1950's. > > Her father and my Grandfather, Anton Baitz grew up in Hetin, Banat his > family was dwelling in the Banat for 250-300 years, they were from the Black > Forest region in Germany and came to Banat through Ulm. In Wien the spelling > of their surname was changed from Beitz to Baitz. The family practiced the > Catholic faith. > > Anton's father Michael Baitz was a butcher and Anton's mother's name was > Magdellena (Lena), they were both taken by the red army and never seen or > heard of again after the war as they were proud to be German and stated such > to the authorities that divided up the peoples in that area at the time. My > Aunts account is they were living with friends in Austria and were ordered > to report back to the Banat (then in Jugoslav/Yugoslavia) shortly after the > war, my Grandmother spoke multiple languages and said she was Hungarian not > German and her daughter was a deaf mute and couldn't talk. That's how they > were released, but her father and mother in law were taken away and never > seen or heard of again. We can only assume they were taken off to death or > labor camps somewhere. They were separated from Anton - who was a doctor - > as he had no choice but to serve in the war under duress, and after the war > he went to Austria. Anton was a surgeon (later dentist) through University > Hospital in Salzburg Austria (he had studied at the University of Graz), he > could never find a trace of his parents though he tried very hard to find > them. His family lost all their homes, lands and possessions as all was > taken from them and many others after the war. > > Anton Baitz also had an uncle Anton Michael Baitz. See old photos #1 below > of his father Michael, wife Magdellena, Anton himself, uncle Anton Michael, > and mother of Michael standing in front of their house in Hetin > (Tamasfalva). The older woman in front of picture #2 is stated by Anton to > be his grandmother, as written on the back with this information by Anton > Baitz that I've attached to this posting. > > I'm seeking to find Michael and Magdellena parents names and surnames and > all related ancesters to know our genelogy. > > Any assitance you can give me to point me in the right direction is much > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Helmuth Baitz > > [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat01.png]. > > [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat02.png] > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Helmut, Your family history is a sad story, only too typical of what that senseless war brought to our people. Yes, people could be taken away and never seen or heard from again. My maternal grandmother was a BEITZ. Her ancestors came from the Lorraine (Deutsch-Lothringen) localities of Bühl (Buhl), Dreibrunnen (Trois Fontaines), Sankt Quirin (Saint-Quirin). My BEITZ/PAIZ Anton came to Bogarosch (Banat), where he was married in 1787. His descendants (in my line) were born successively as follows: BEITZ/PEITZ Franz *1815 in Sigmundfeld; BEITZ Nikolaus *1855 in Neusiedel; BEITZ Katharina *1883 in Neusiedel. The Familienbuch Bogarosch list several other BEITZ families. Some BEITZ lived, either temporarily or permanently, in Cincinnati Ohio, USA. Good luck in your research! Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PG Baitz via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:15 To: DVHH Posts; Banat List Subject: [DVHH] Hetin, Banat Geneology Search Guidance BAITZ Surname Greetings fellow Schwabians, This is an account from my Tante (Aunt) who is alive and well today, she was born 1930 in Karlovac, Banat and left when she was 13 years old to live with friends in Austria with her mother Mathilde (knee Vojna in Werschetz, Banat), younger brother (my father born Graz, Austria 1937 - they visited Austria over time), and a hired laborer, to avoid the bombing and bloodshed of the war. As they were fleeing "the allies", my father was shot in the leg... they wanted to amputate his leg, but Mathilde would not allow them, which was a very good thing as all healed well in time. My father also corroborated some of this information earlier in my life, but he was seven years younger than my Tante, both children of Anton and Mathilde migrated to The United States of America in the early 1950's. Her father and my Grandfather, Anton Baitz grew up in Hetin, Banat his family was dwelling in the Banat for 250-300 years, they were from the Black Forest region in Germany and came to Banat through Ulm. In Wien the spelling of their surname was changed from Beitz to Baitz. The family practiced the Catholic faith. Anton's father Michael Baitz was a butcher and Anton's mother's name was Magdellena (Lena), they were both taken by the red army and never seen or heard of again after the war as they were proud to be German and stated such to the authorities that divided up the peoples in that area at the time. My Aunts account is they were living with friends in Austria and were ordered to report back to the Banat (then in Jugoslav/Yugoslavia) shortly after the war, my Grandmother spoke multiple languages and said she was Hungarian not German and her daughter was a deaf mute and couldn't talk. That's how they were released, but her father and mother in law were taken away and never seen or heard of again. We can only assume they were taken off to death or labor camps somewhere. They were separated from Anton - who was a doctor - as he had no choice but to serve in the war under duress, and after the war he went to Austria. Anton was a surgeon (later dentist) through University Hospital in Salzburg Austria (he had studied at the University of Graz), he could never find a trace of his parents though he tried very hard to find them. His family lost all their homes, lands and possessions as all was taken from them and many others after the war. Anton Baitz also had an uncle Anton Michael Baitz. See old photos #1 below of his father Michael, wife Magdellena, Anton himself, uncle Anton Michael, and mother of Michael standing in front of their house in Hetin (Tamasfalva). The older woman in front of picture #2 is stated by Anton to be his grandmother, as written on the back with this information by Anton Baitz that I've attached to this posting. I'm seeking to find Michael and Magdellena parents names and surnames and all related ancesters to know our genelogy. Any assitance you can give me to point me in the right direction is much appreciated. Thank you. Helmuth Baitz [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat01.png]. [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat02.png] Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Helmuth: I have some birth/baptismal records for Karlsdorf and Tomsdorf. Unfortunately they are in dated order. If you have eact dates I can review the records for your names. Eileen Lund-Johnson Minnesota On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 11:14 AM, PG Baitz <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings fellow Schwabians, > > This is an account from my Tante (Aunt) who is alive and well today, she > was born 1930 in Karlovac, Banat and left when she was 13 years old to live > with friends in Austria with her mother Mathilde (knee Vojna in Werschetz, > Banat), younger brother (my father born Graz, Austria 1937 - they visited > Austria over time), and a hired laborer, to avoid the bombing and bloodshed > of the war. As they were fleeing "the allies", my father was shot in the > leg... they wanted to amputate his leg, but Mathilde would not allow them, > which was a very good thing as all healed well in time. My father also > corroborated some of this information earlier in my life, but he was seven > years younger than my Tante, both children of Anton and Mathilde migrated > to The United States of America in the early 1950's. > > Her father and my Grandfather, Anton Baitz grew up in Hetin, Banat his > family was dwelling in the Banat for 250-300 years, they were from the > Black Forest region in Germany and came to Banat through Ulm. In Wien the > spelling of their surname was changed from Beitz to Baitz. The family > practiced the Catholic faith. > > Anton's father Michael Baitz was a butcher and Anton's mother's name was > Magdellena (Lena), they were both taken by the red army and never seen or > heard of again after the war as they were proud to be German and stated > such to the authorities that divided up the peoples in that area at the > time. My Aunts account is they were living with friends in Austria and were > ordered to report back to the Banat (then in Jugoslav/Yugoslavia) shortly > after the war, my Grandmother spoke multiple languages and said she was > Hungarian not German and her daughter was a deaf mute and couldn't talk. > That's how they were released, but her father and mother in law were taken > away and never seen or heard of again. We can only assume they were taken > off to death or labor camps somewhere. They were separated from Anton - who > was a doctor - as he had no choice but to serve in the war under duress, > and after the war he went to Austria. Anton was a surgeon (later dentist) > through University Hospital in Salzburg Austria (he had studied at the > University of Graz), he could never find a trace of his parents though he > tried very hard to find them. His family lost all their homes, lands and > possessions as all was taken from them and many others after the war. > > Anton Baitz also had an uncle Anton Michael Baitz. See old photos #1 below > of his father Michael, wife Magdellena, Anton himself, uncle Anton Michael, > and mother of Michael standing in front of their house in Hetin > (Tamasfalva). The older woman in front of picture #2 is stated by Anton to > be his grandmother, as written on the back with this information by Anton > Baitz that I've attached to this posting. > > I'm seeking to find Michael and Magdellena parents names and surnames and > all related ancesters to know our genelogy. > > Any assitance you can give me to point me in the right direction is much > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Helmuth Baitz > > [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat01.png]. > > [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat02.png] > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Greetings fellow Schwabians, This is an account from my Tante (Aunt) who is alive and well today, she was born 1930 in Karlovac, Banat and left when she was 13 years old to live with friends in Austria with her mother Mathilde (knee Vojna in Werschetz, Banat), younger brother (my father born Graz, Austria 1937 - they visited Austria over time), and a hired laborer, to avoid the bombing and bloodshed of the war. As they were fleeing "the allies", my father was shot in the leg... they wanted to amputate his leg, but Mathilde would not allow them, which was a very good thing as all healed well in time. My father also corroborated some of this information earlier in my life, but he was seven years younger than my Tante, both children of Anton and Mathilde migrated to The United States of America in the early 1950's. Her father and my Grandfather, Anton Baitz grew up in Hetin, Banat his family was dwelling in the Banat for 250-300 years, they were from the Black Forest region in Germany and came to Banat through Ulm. In Wien the spelling of their surname was changed from Beitz to Baitz. The family practiced the Catholic faith. Anton's father Michael Baitz was a butcher and Anton's mother's name was Magdellena (Lena), they were both taken by the red army and never seen or heard of again after the war as they were proud to be German and stated such to the authorities that divided up the peoples in that area at the time. My Aunts account is they were living with friends in Austria and were ordered to report back to the Banat (then in Jugoslav/Yugoslavia) shortly after the war, my Grandmother spoke multiple languages and said she was Hungarian not German and her daughter was a deaf mute and couldn't talk. That's how they were released, but her father and mother in law were taken away and never seen or heard of again. We can only assume they were taken off to death or labor camps somewhere. They were separated from Anton - who was a doctor - as he had no choice but to serve in the war under duress, and after the war he went to Austria. Anton was a surgeon (later dentist) through University Hospital in Salzburg Austria (he had studied at the University of Graz), he could never find a trace of his parents though he tried very hard to find them. His family lost all their homes, lands and possessions as all was taken from them and many others after the war. Anton Baitz also had an uncle Anton Michael Baitz. See old photos #1 below of his father Michael, wife Magdellena, Anton himself, uncle Anton Michael, and mother of Michael standing in front of their house in Hetin (Tamasfalva). The older woman in front of picture #2 is stated by Anton to be his grandmother, as written on the back with this information by Anton Baitz that I've attached to this posting. I'm seeking to find Michael and Magdellena parents names and surnames and all related ancesters to know our genelogy. Any assitance you can give me to point me in the right direction is much appreciated. Thank you. Helmuth Baitz [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat01.png]. [AntonBaitzFamilyHetinBanat02.png] Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

Well, since I got this email I'm going to guess you got subscribed alright. Welcome to the mail list. Sorry I can not help you but I know we do have some Apatin experts on here so hopefully you will hear from one soon. I just wanted to welcome you and let you know that your email came through! Eve On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Rikard Gass via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < [email protected]> wrote: > Is this the right place to subscribe to Donau Schwaben Researchers? > Surname: GassVillage: Apatin > Toni Anton Gass Born: 1936 Apatin1945 Salzburg1956 Vetlanda Sweden > subscribe > My father Toni arrived to Sweden in 1956 with his family parents the Josef > and Katarina Gass, and Brother Josef. > His father was a Miller and had a mill on Donau. > I have more information about their grand parents. > Greetings > Vänliga hälsningar > > Rikard [email protected] > +46708646308 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Sigh - I put the wrong date in there. It's Saturday the 18th of November. The Karlsdorfer Klub of Chicago will hold their 62nd Kirchweih on November 18, 2017 at: Donauschwaben Halle 625 E. Seegers Road Des Plaines, IL 60016 Doors open at 6 p.m. All are invited! http://www.karlsdorf.org