My Benjamin Franklin Dodson had to be born before 1879 as his first child Rhoda Belle Dodson was born 15 March 1880. His wifes nane was Delia?. Many things are the same but the dates are wrong. As I said before Sutton is the madain name of Nancy Tennessee Noblins mother. I just reciently found out the Sutton name and am waiting for a lady to send me more info on that line. This line was in Randolph, Clay and Lawrence county Arkansas. Where was your family from? Did Joseph Pain have any brothers that could have been named Benjamin also? Judy