This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolcarroll43 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1931.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As of 6/12 research. Benj Dodson married #1 Tabitha Cleghorn 1845 Cole Co. MO (her father Mathew Cleghorn probate) 1850 Morgan Co. IL Benj sister Elizabeth(b.1821 Tenn) M. Fielding Pope Wheeler, in household was Elizabeth Dodson 71 NC, Agnes Levis 54 Tenn (who I belive was Benj sister) Fielding's bro Henry Wheeler m. Minerva Steely 1850 on a boat in Mississippi R. Minerva's parents Isaiah Steely & Sarah Dodson b. 1800 Tenn, m. KY (another Benj. sister)1850 Green Co. IL, Benj Dodson, Joshua Wheeler fam., Van Bebbers. Macoupin Co. Dodson's also. Lots of research to be done to connect them all. Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trackingancestors Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is getting interesting! I was curious about Tappahanna and the 150 A. that John Dodd was entitled to there. Turns out that 'Tappahanna' is the capital city of Essex County, and the town/city did exist when John Dodd lived at Bermuda Hundred. From Wikipedia: Tappahannock is the oldest town in Essex County, Virginia, United States. The population was 2,068 at the 2000 census. Located on the Rappahannock River, Tappahannock is the county seat of Essex County[3]. Its name comes from the Algonquian language word lappihanne (also noted as toppehannock), meaning "Town on the rise and fall of water" or "where the tide ebbs and flows." In 1608 John Smith landed in Tapphannock but was driven back by the local Native American tribe.[4] >From what I remember of Charles Dodson's will, he owned land in both Richmond Co. and Essex County, Virginia. North Farnham Parish where much of the births/baptisms of his children were recorded was in Richmond Co. I wonder if the 150 A. owned by John Dodd in Tappahonnock, Essex Co. was somehow a portion of the land owned by Charles Dodson later? Now that would be one heck of a connection! More later....... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trackingancestors Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm going to post these files and/or links for those who want to see what I've referenced. "The Colonial National History...study of Virginia Indians and Jamestown:First Century" is extremely interesting,and seems to be well-researched. Lots of history in it. http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/chap4.htm This next is Hotten's List where the musters are listed. John Dod's and wife, Jane are on this list. http://www.allcensus.com/original_lists_201.htm This next link is to a book that provides a detailed description and history of the 4 original shires of Virginia, and the later formation of shires from the original four. It provides a map with numbered entries as locations for notable plantations, colonists, landmarks, etc. This is at the beginning. On page 258, there is a short bio on Jane Dier, who came over on the ship, Marmaduke. On 261, there is a bio on John Dod and wife, Jane who lived at number 39, at Bermuda Hundred. The map showing this number is at the end of the book on the 'back cover'. John's bio mentions that he had 50 A in Bermuda Hundred, but also 150 A. in Tappahanna. This was land he was entitled to as an 'ancient planter'. Unfortunately, this is a preview and some pages are not there, but the above pages are. It seems that "Where They Were", one of the chapters, is there in its entirety. Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635 A Biographical Dictionary by Martha W. McCartney http://books.google.com/books?id=orDbMGpInaQC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=Neck of Land in the Corporation of Charles City + location&source=bl&ots=WHWb2dr-ZM&sig=mi6var96sxJgicmsrsL2zxfmM9Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nzbQT4W-AYXq8wSHirHBAQ&ved=0CF0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=true That's a start. I'll post more in another post later. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trackingancestors Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That practice seems to have been common in many lines, but not sure how it would work with this particular situation. John Dod's muster role defines Jane as his 'wife', age 40. He was 36. In 1621, Jane Dier came on a Bride's ship (47 ladies if I remember from the article), and was 15 years old making her date of birth approximately 1606. In 1624, date of muster role, she would only have been about 18. His wife then was 40, and named Jane. I don't see this Jane being Jane Dier. I'm not saying it's Jane Eagle Plume either, but it would be more likely an explanation. I'm going to post the links where I found all this information. There are several so I'll do it in a separate post. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trackingancestors Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I like to think that I acquired my assertiveness through the Dodsons, but who knows. I've been following this thread because my family stories also included that a grandmother, a few great grandmothers in the Dodson line were of Indian heritage, and in another line of mine, there is also Indian heritage. I have assumptions on who these were, but have been unable to prove it yet. Notice I said 'yet', which brings me back to the original subject of this thread....Dodson/Eagle Plume. I have no clue whether John Dodd's married an Indian, but I certainly think it was possible for all the reasons already discussed. I do know that he married a Jane Dier according to the document I previously posted, ship passenger records, and lists of living and dead. I have noticed that many of the posters who were active in this thread are now not posting as much. I have to say I am disappointed that this thread has turned into a thread of 'posturing' by some who seem to somehow express themselves in a 'lordly, higher than thou' fashion. Under our Creator, whoever you choose it to have been, we are all equal period. If you have inner peace, as the American Indians did, there is no need to posture. There is no need to take your toys and go home if the thread is not going the way you want it. So if we can, I'd really like to see if we can work on the Indian heritage to see where it goes. I am tired of reading the attacking posts anytime the name Eagle Plume comes up. As I said, I have no idea...but why the attacks? Aren't we all here to research our lines and to find documentation? There are many time periods and locations where documentation simply no longer exists. Even your professional genealogists will tell you that. We make the best genealogical assumptions then based on what evidence and circumstances we can find. I think we need to get back to work, and share what we know, what we've heard, and the records we do have...and cut out the who is more trained, who has bluer blood, blah..blah...blah. Sorry, but step back and reread. Frankly, a portion of the blood that runs through my veins and my children's is red..and I am proud of that as well as the blue. Can we get back to work? Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.2.1.3.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, highly regarded. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Often "gentlemen" were Normans, in relationship with the King of England. It had nothing to do with class. When the people needed a name, as we were highly regarded they came to our family to be given a name. When the first King of Scotland was scheduled, as we were highly regarded they came to ask our family representatives attend to give their blessing. That led to the condition we leave at the first opportunity because no man should have a king. So who are "the elite"? Our lands were most recently known as Caithness, Cairngorms, and near Loch Rannoch. >From earliest time, we built weirs, roads, and orchards. Not laborers at all, we always had wealth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If true, he did, then, it would be as a fur trapper he moved west. In 8th grade elementary school, I was given the list of what was brought west to Willamette Valley, including orchard tree rootstock and a mattock. I had to ask: a mattock is for planting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If true, he did, then, it would be as a fur trapper he moved west. In 8th grade elementary school, I was given the list of what was brought west to Willamette Valley, including orchard tree rootstock and a mattock. I had to ask: a mattock is for planting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sidesecho41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From what I understand, John went on to become a fur trapper. He was obviously a man unafraid of physical labor, unlike the "gentlemen" more commonly acknowledged as part of this settlement. With a shortage of "white women", he married outside of his race--to a Native American woman of respectable lineage. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sidesecho41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.2.1.3.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The word "princess" is clearly used only to portray the relationship of Pocahontas to Powhatan, whom the English has no recognizable equivalant title for. The English had no understanding of tribal titles.They only knew that Powhatan was a powerful leader. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sidesecho41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1967.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will try this Summer to look into connections. Due to life-changing events, I have misplaced my information. I will try to retrieve it soon. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sidesecho41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1967.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree. The Dodsons are a wonderful heritage to myself and many other great people. My family has lived in Virginia since the Jamestown settlement. Many children moved around the country but I come from a line that stayed near their birthplace. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.2.1.3.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think DNA is more easily and more readily traced thru women. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.2.1.3.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I understand DNA is more easily and readily traced thru the women. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.2.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 1965-6 Intellectual History of the United States course at University of Washington, Seattle, WA, I read the first synagogue in North America was near Charleston at the time of the first immigrants, which included my family Dodson. I am not saying our ethnicity isn't Old Caledonian (Scotland). I do know Jews arrived early in Ireland and Jews may have been in Scotland, because our family story includes an early history of finding brides in Ireland and Irish finding brides in Scotland and England. One early immigration may have been during the time of Joshua ben Nun. In the more recent past, I have friend whose ethnicity is a Lithuanian Jewish family who immigrated to Ireland. The reason I mention this is that ethnicity isn't so clear. I think DNA evidence would show there are no "blue-bloods" no matter how much we like to think our own family is best. I know I have felt my family is best. Of course, we are best. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: w7cjd Surnames: Dodson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1689.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Dodson family story is that we are Old Caledonian from Scotland, that we are by occupation orchardmen (tree dressers), civil engineers and educators. However, we do not define ourselves in terms of employment. We are Old Caledonian. We are first people. As the family story goes, we we asked to give names and did. Later, we were asked to attend the installation of the first king of Scotland and did, insisting no man should have a king and we would attend on the condition all of us leave at the first opportunity which was presented when a cousin of Sir Walter Raleigh promoted immigration to Sir Walter Raliegh and brought suitable people to North America to live there (as opposed to looking for quick profit, like gold or other precious commodities). However, there are other precious commodities returned to England. The tomato and the potato were important, as were other less obvious items. The family story doesn't mention commodities. It mentioned that this idea was supported. And so, we arrived on these shores. We lived near present-day Charleston. I read about it in college in a course called Intellectual History of the United States, supporting the family story. The first Town Meeting was there, guns left outside. Our branch of the Dodson family had their guns seized and houses burned because of our position on the Portuguese having brought slaves to open up a new market in North America. My branch of the Dodson family, according to the family story, said: it is time to make a coin because we were chattels in Scotland. Dodsons were regarded as property of a clan after the clan system came into existence. The idea was to give a coin to the laborer. The other branch of the family said: we came here to be rich landowners. My branch of the Dodson family walked until there was no further to walk, settling eventually in Willamette Valley, OR and became rich land owners anyway. It was clear to me our family wanted freedom more. Our branch of the Dodson family retains all their skills as orchardmen (tree dressers), civil engineers and educators. However, no one would say Ersal Dodson, head of Department of Highways Western Region builder of transcontinental highway 2 and 10, Hood Loop, Rainier Loop and Going-to-the-Sun Highway Glacier National Park, MT or my uncle James Dodson, Grant County County Engineer chief engineer Grand Coulee Dam and Dodson Dam, Dodson, MT or grand uncle Head of State Board of Education, Oregon are laborers. As land owners in Willamette Valley, OR they sold their produce to the hotel trade. In Ephrata, WA more recently, no one would say the Dodson's are are farmers. However, my uncle has considerable land used for farming practices. I am having a terrific struggle, this generation, because my grandmothers may be indians. There is no need to say they are a princess. They Ft. Benton Census and more recent historic Census, and a John Wesley Bible family names upholds my maternal family story my grandmother's grandmother was head of the Gathered Women Clan. My paternal grandmother's name Mary Dunbar and John Dunbar appearing on the 1913 Indian Allotment Map could be because they were adopted. I lived with both grandmothers, first my paternal grandmother and, at thirteen years old, with my maternal grandmother. They certainly look like scots. I have learned that native americans are all colors. Native americans are not a homogenous group. I have considered that DNA may be interesting. What I wanted to contribute to this thread is that our Dodson family name is Old Caledonian, not English. It is one thing to say, we are England. However, we are not all having the identical ethnicity in England. As for Pocohontas, she may or may not have been a princess; she certainly was an exceptional woman. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bennettdpchs Surnames: Dodson, Hughes, Russell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1967.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Linda! Some of my family lines are just names, dates, and places. The Dodsons seem to have lots of interesting tidbits here and there. Since I am connected through a daughter, it is much more difficult to sift through several hundred years worth of potential ancestors. I do meet the nicest people, though! Dottie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trackingancestors Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1967.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dottie, Charles Dodson, progenitor of the Richmond line, is a different line than the William Dodson who was born in 1758 in Frederick Co.,now Shenandoah Co., Va., and who fought in the Revolutionary War. I descend from Richard Dodson, born 1752 in Frederick Co., now Shenandoah, and who also fought in the Revolutionary War. I'm hoping to find some descendants of the this William, and hopefully to find a connection between William and Richard. Neither of these have a known parent, and are not 'claimed' by the Richmond line. DNA testing was done that now shows that my Richard is NOT of the Richmond line. (Gotta love that DNA! Saved probably another twenty years looking for a connection to a line that he wasn't from. :) As far as the name William, this is one of the big challenges in genealogy...naming patterns were common, and everyone seemed to have several namesakes, so we wind up chasing down several of the same given name, only to find we're way off course.)I do wish our ancestors had a little more creativity in naming children. It would make the search a bit easier, for sure. There are some Charles of Richmond descendants posting in this thread. Maybe they have some information that could help you. Good luck, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bennettdpchs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dodson/1967.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am descended from Rebecca Dodson, who married Nathaniel Hughes, circa 1764. She probably had a brother named William! She was the daughter of Barbara Russell and Abraham Dodson. He was the son of Mary and Thomas Dodson. Thomas was the son of the well documented Charles. I have only just started studying the Dodsons and would love to get more information about them. I would love to hear anything you have to share about these ancestors at dsbennett2008@yahoo.com. Thanks! Dottie Simpson Bennett Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.