I checked your uncle's SNP/Haplotree page at FTDNA and there is definitely something wrong there -- it starts loading but never completes. That is not happening on other individual's pages. You should probably contact FTDNA and file a problem report. As to testing, your uncle stands at not too great a genetic distance from individuals who are FGC4077 and DF105. Those markers are at or near the top of two of the four known divisions in the tree below M222. Genetic distance suggests he would not belong to one of the two smaller branches. If you wanted to take advantage of discount pricing, I'd think FGC4077 and DF105 would be good candidates. If you are not familiar with www.yseq.com, I would suggest you also consider them for targeted testing. They are having a sale as well at this time with prices a little lower than FTDNA's. Your uncle would have to submit a new sample to them, which may or may not be an annoyance and would add a few bucks to the initial test order from them. Other members of this list might also have suggestions about SNPs to test. If you have tested to a specific major subdivision of L21, feel free to mention it here. Several members of this list watch SNPs upstream from M222 as well, and there may be discount testing opportunities for you too at this time. David Wilson -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Helm Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 4:07 PM To: DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com; DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com Subject: [R-M222] Advice on further testing Since FTDNA &al are offering testing sales I thought I'd ask advice about further testing. My maternal uncle has tested into M222 - you can see his results on the project page as kit 324585 earliest ancestor Eugene Owen Donnelly. The new FTDNA haplotree page seems to be having some big problems today, so I can't report what it offers. I think I can pull off the tested list if anybody wants to see that. We've combined FTDNA 111 and National Geno 2.0 tests. I was just going to let this sit until the Chromo 2 / Big Y / Full Y craziness settled down but if there's some refinement I can do now that would take advantage of the sale I'd do it. I'm more interested in targeted SNP tests (I don't know much about this part of the L21 space - my own Y DNA is in another subclade of L21). Thanks, ==mwh Michael Helm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message