Another cursory glance has a number of surnames in the M222 project list with matching derivatives in the Ragman Rolls. Probably already touched on in here in the past but there is Fraser, Roche, Boys(Boice), Broun and Cragyn (Creegan) to name just a few....along with the aforementioned Jacob Freman (Freeman). I am assuming Normans and some Scots who took on Norman name spellings/titles. This is kind of interesting for those in the project who don't have a good point of origin and of course the old question on the various treks of M222. Regards, Steve > From: stevelominac@hotmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:19:45 -0500 > Subject: Re: [R-M222] R-M222 off modal matches > > > Fremansone found here as well, along with a Jacob Freman. > > http://books.google.com/books?id=KHeAAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA224&lpg=PA224&dq=Robert+Fremansone&source=bl&ots=-vew0PVjNR&sig=-raLQv6A5tiEiAkjoXPoJnVXqpw&hl=en#v=onepage&q=Robert%20Fremansone&f=false > > Just a cursory search also has Jacob Freman as perhaps a part of the Ragman Rolls in a history of Peebleshire...from 1291. Will have to delve further into this.... > > http://books.google.com/books?id=IKsHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=jacob+freman&source=bl&ots=ayZzEwar5h&sig=IrEueyUlPFc2kZBYvM14x9AnnLY&hl=en#v=onepage&q=jacob%20freman&f=false > > Regards, Steve > > > > > > From: alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:09:53 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] R-M222 off modal matches > > > > Hi Walter > > > > No, I haven't leapt anywhere. But this list is interesting : > > > > >> > > Brown > > Cannon > > Carnes > > Carroll > > Cawthon > > Coyne (2) > > Creegan > > Daugherty > > Folan > > Gilmore > > Golden > > Graham > > Heflin > > Holt > > Hughes > > Kanary > > Kennedy > > Lawson > > MacAulay > > MacKenzie > > Manley > > Mawhorter > > McAdams > > McCall > > McGrath > > McKemmish > > McLaughlin (2) > > Munnelly > > Neel > > Queen > > Quinn > > Rice > > Sinclair > > Soakell > > Taylor > > Thrasher > > Towey > > Whitehead > > Wilson > > Yakes > > Young > > > > which, of course, doesn't prove anything except that it is likely that > > we are not English. Include 37 marker matches (excluding the duplicates > > who tested to 67) and the list becomes increasingly Celtic. > > >> > > > > I recently acquired a copy of Black's book 'The Surnames of Scotland'. Most > > of the above surnames are in the book (that doesn't mean they originated in > > Scotland, merely that they are found there). > > > > Also, Black mentions a Robert Fremansone, burgess of Jeddeworthe, 1296 (Bain > > II, p 197). > > > > Jeddeworthe is in Co Lanark, Scotland. > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message