A useful reminder, as I did my M222 test at Ethnoancestry so I have never thought it worth spending twice to get it confirmed by FTDNA. At the latter I am probably still flagged with just a predicted (and higher level) haplogroup. IainM222+ > From: Lochlan@aol.com > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:05:09 -0400 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Summary of a distracting series > > > > In a message dated 10/11/2011 6:23:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > pconroy63@gmail.com writes: > > John, > > People whose haplotype show up in Green have been SNP tested. They are > given > the designation of their terminal SNP - the last one they are positive for. > I was one of the early testers of the Deep Clade test, and M222 was > available then. Some other companies had SNP tests available prior to this, > FTDNA was not the first to offer SNP tests. > > I couldn't find any way to contact FTDNA but I did find some discussion of > others with single P25+ results identical to those in the M222 project. > > > Apparently these were very early tests done by FTDNA prior to adopting > deep clade SNP testing. EthnoAncestry was doing them much earlier. > > "I suspect FTDNA was feeling a little competitive pressure from other > testing > companies. FTDNA is the market leader for Y-DYS testing (our Short Tandem > Repeats), but they didn't offer the best packages for SNP (Single > Nucleotide > Polymorphism) testing. For example, when I had them run my SNP early in > 2005, the only result I received was P25 positive; enough to identify me > as > R1b1, but all I got was the result on that one marker. Still, the test was > only 65 bucks so I wasn't complaining." > > Another post says: > > "My personal Haplogroup page at FTDNA (no deep clade test from FTDNA) > Your Haplogroup (&) Tests R1b1 P25+" > > He then compares his results to a cousin who took the full deep clade test. > > "An R1b1* haplogroup page (one of my “cousins”) > Your Haplogroup (&) Tests > R1b1 M173+ M207+ M343+ P25+ M126- M153- M160- M18- M222- M269- M37- > M65- M73- P66- SRY2627-" > > "Please note that the pluses and minuses agree that P25 was/is > universally tested by FTDNA and all subclades are verified as > negative except for me as my R1b confirmation test was run prior to > the offering of deep clade tests. (EthnoAncestry ran my deep clade > tests.) I can not personally attest to what tests by FTDNA are run; > but, I remember that several contributors to this digest kvetch > about their use of P25." > > > So I do not think these samples are necessarily M222-. Or negative for > M269 or L21. They simply haven't been tested since the very early days at > FTDNA. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message