In a message dated 5/21/2011 8:54:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com writes: Ok I'm with you now. Yes, but I think it's more than "possible". I think they were all "of the Fearchar blood-line". I should have said, in my earlier posting, John, son of Cristin, son of Lamont or Lawmanson. All of the Paisley charters are in a book on Google Books.Monasterii de Passelet Cartas Privilegia Conventiones Aliaque Munimenta Complectens The Maitland Club The charters themselves are undated, mostly grouped by family connections. But the editor did include a section near the front with some dating. The Fearchar son of Nigelli references turned out to be very late, 1294-1295, much later than the earliest Lamont references, c. 1230-46. That is quite different from the prior to 1249 reference given by the author of Memorials in Argyllshire so I don't think these are relevant from a Lamont history standpoint. Possibly later relatives but they tell us nothing of the father of Feachar in the Lamont line. John