There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that DYS495=17 is another distinctive Ewing marker. I'm not as sure about the second one though. It could be. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Ewing Sent: 22 May 2011 05:48 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] 111 Marker Tests I had a look on the FTDNA R:M222 Project website and captured 18 complete 111-marker haplotypes. I calculated a modal on just these for markers 68 - 111. The result is at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/431003/68-111_M222Modal.xls Then I compared this R:M222 modal with the Ewings at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/431003/111-markerTable.pdf Clearly, we don't have enough data to reach anything like reliable conclusions, but it looks like at least the branch of Ewings represented by the three Ewing men who have full 111-marker results have two additional markers off-modal for R:M222. It looks like some partial results on the extended panel are coming in, so maybe we'll have more M222 haplotypes soon, and we are also expecting a couple of more Ewings to upgrade soon. We'll see how this holds up. David Ewing R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message