What I find quite amusing is that I've long believed that McIldubh's were descended from Lamont. If Sir James Lamont was right, it was the other way round. Lamonts are descended from Mac Gille Dubh's. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Morgan Sent: 20 May 2011 17:18 To: dna-r1b1c7 Subject: Re: [R-M222] Iona - MacGuilaDuibh ancestors to the Lamonts? hief Here is a full list of MacGilleDuibh from Black's work under MacIldownie i.e. Mac Gille Duibh 1164 Macgilladuibh the Hermit of Iona 1242-1249 Nigel Mackegilduf witness to the quitclaim of Walter Campania of the lands of Dunduff in the parish of Maybole (founded by Duncan of Carrick) to the abbey of Melrose (in the reign of Alexander II) - what is the relation to the local O'Casduff 1275 Gillicrist Macgilliduff - consented to a quit-claim of the lands of Auchterwaddale to Priory of beauly, b'n 1461 Gilbert McIiduf - possessed a tenement in Dumfries, 1502 Doull MacGilleduf - a victim of the first hership of Petty, and mentioned in "A Genealogical Deduction of the Family of Rose of Kilravock" also McKeldowie (an example of Gilla becoming Kil as raise by Steve) - recorded Lochaber 1616, & Edinburgh 1697 John M' Ilduff - tenent Bordland 1642 Duncan M'Ildoui - tenent at Larichvain in parish of Inshaell, 1686 John Macgildhui - of Casteltoune, Kindrochit was appointed a church elder in 1701, in 1705 he became "apostate to popery". Black Under MacIldue - G. Mac Gille dhuibh (and may be a distortion of Mac Domhnaill Duibh??) mentions: Six M'lldeus from Appin are included in the list of those engaged in the '45 Macilduy is not uncommon in the southwest of Perthshire, where there is still a small group of Macilduys known as Clandaindouey (Clann an duibh). The name also occurred in the island of Gometra (the island was a possession of the Iona). McKeldowie 1616, Mc- illiduy 1715. "Black also notes that the Black surname appears as Mac Gille dhuibh, or 'son of the black lad,' which is Anglicized to Macilduy and Macildowie (1962, 78). " I also find: 1609 Neill Macilduy, a follower of Maclean of Dowart 1640's Walter Scot in "A legend of the wars of Montrose" refers to a messenger MacIlduy, While Henry Guthrie in his memoir (1702) names him as Allan MacIldowie of Lochaber While the 1592 Allane M'Kildowie is a Cameroon Chief and from the 1429 chief Domhnaill Duibh. The idea I read is that his surname is from Mac Coill Duibh. In 1600 it is written Allane Camrone M'Ouildowy. The Cameroon seem to have a confused history and also described as a confederacy of families. R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message