David, I had previously derived a Modal for those markers, and agree with you completely. Three Griersons are under test at the moment (incomplete), but there are already indications that the following off-modals have survived the 600 year split between the families: 710=36, 533=12, YGataA10=14, 712=22, and 715=23. Millican 135550 also carries three of these markers (as he does 3 of our off-modals among markers 1-67). I take this as further validation of my postulated M222 Nith subset of M222. I'll put up a revised chart when all test results are in. David Grierson in Melbourne On 22/05/2011 2:48 PM, David Ewing wrote: > I had a look on the FTDNA R:M222 Project website and captured 18 complete > 111-marker haplotypes. I calculated a modal on just these for markers 68 - > 111. The result is at > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/431003/68-111_M222Modal.xls > > Then I compared this R:M222 modal with the Ewings at > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/431003/111-markerTable.pdf > > Clearly, we don't have enough data to reach anything like reliable > conclusions, but it looks like at least the branch of Ewings represented by > the three Ewing men who have full 111-marker results have two additional > markers off-modal for R:M222. It looks like some partial results on the > extended panel are coming in, so maybe we'll have more M222 haplotypes soon, > and we are also expecting a couple of more Ewings to upgrade soon. We'll see > how this holds up. > > David Ewing > R1b1c7 Research and Links: