David, Very Interesting. I wonder if: Myrkjartan = McCartan On 23AndMe I have an Icelandic relative! Cheers, Paul On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David H. MacLennan < david.maclennan@utoronto.ca> wrote: > > I realize that this forum is about Scots M222 DNA and that is of great > interest to me also. However, I think that everyone would also like to find > a genealogy going back to 900 AD or so that would actually link up with the > Ui Niall. Perhaps the one place in Europe where fairly accurate genealogies > were maintained since that period was in Iceland. My mother was Icelandic > and I have her family tree going back to the settlement times in the late > 800s. > You are certainly all aware that the Vikings who settled Iceland (and > Ireland) had no qualms about bringing Irish slaves back to Iceland and > their > intermingling with the Irish may well have led to Irishmen joining the > Vikings in their escapades willingly. One of the most famous was Melkorka, > an Irish Princess, who was brought as a concubine to Iceland by a powerful > and wealthy Viking named Hoskuldur. She was so pissed off by her captors > and > her captivity that she refused to speak and was believed to be mute. One > day > she was heard singing in the meadow to her children and the truth was out! > She then told them of her heritage and produced a gold token of her > lineage. > Her son "Olaf the Peacock", was the handsomest man in Iceland and, > obviously, a member of a powerful line. As a Viking, he made his way back > to > Ireland and met his grandfather, Myrkjartan. Ólaf was accepted by > Myrkjartan, who even offered to make him his heir. However, Ólaf returned > to > Iceland. This history is in the Laxdaela Saga of Snorri Sturlasson, written > in the 1200s. > The point I wish to make is that Icelandic carriers of the M222 > haplotype might have a lineage that could be traced accurately back to the > settlement of Iceland before 900 AD. The question would then be whether a > connection could be made back to an Irish family, as was done in the case > of > Melkorka. Has anyone made a serious investigation of Icelandic M222 > individuals and their genalogy? > Incidentally, I can trace my own lineage back to Melkorka and might even > carry a few percent of her autosomal DNA. > David > > -- > Dr. David H. MacLennan, > Banting and Best Department of Medical Research, > University of Toronto, Charles H. Best Institute, > 112 College St., Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G1L6 > Tel:1-416-978-5008 Fax:1-416-978-8528 > http://www.utoronto.ca/maclennan > > > > From: <Lochlan@aol.com> > > Reply-To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:51:11 EDT > > To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [R-M222] M222 Files > > > > I'm going to pass along an email I received from one of the admins. of > the > > L21 Project. The links given require a Yahoo ID and password to view > > them. So far I haven't been able to remember my old Yahoo password so I > > haven't been able to look at them yet myself. > > > > Dear John and David, > > > > Please invite the M222 project members to access this and comment on > this > > this file which includes them. > > > > M222 is a key part of L21 and I've developed a spreadsheet based system > to > > download L21+ haplotypes, including M222+, from multiple FTDNA projects. > I > > maintain post the spreadsheet file at the web site and Yahoo Group > listed > > below for all who are interested. > > > > I attempt to designate "speculative" clusters or deep ancestral > varieties > > for everyone in the file. I need help on this so would appreciate any > > commentary from M222 folks. I also try to look up the Ysearch IDs and > insert > > the > > correct MDKA info and categorize by geography (down to the > > county/department/shire level) so statisical analysis can be done easily > by > > geography. > > > > Regards, > > Mike Walsh > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > > <_RL21Project@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:RL21Project@yahoogroups.com) > > > Date: Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM > > Subject: [RL21Project] New file uploaded to RL21Project > > > > > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been > > uploaded to the Files area of the RL21Project > > group. > > > > File : /R-L21All_Haplotypes.zip > > Uploaded by : mikewww7 <_mwwdna@gmail.com_ (mailto:mwwdna@gmail.com) > > > Description : R-L21+ Confirmed and Suspected Haplotypes including M222 > and > > all subclades with latest downstream SNP results. 2011-05-24 version - > > M.Walsh > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > _ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RL21Project/files/R-L21All_Haplotypes.zip_ > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RL21Project/files/R-L21All_Haplotypes.zip > ) > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > > _ > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html_ > > (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html > ) > > To join the R-L21 Yahoo group and get access to the files go to > > _http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RL21Project/join > > _ ( > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html) > > Regards, > > R-L21 Plus Project Co-Admin > > > > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >