[There are bigger fish to fry than this one. See my latest email.] Yes, I've just read it. Glundubh was alive in A.D. 900 (I think he died in AD 943). I think there are too many generations between Ladhmann and Neil the Abbot for it to be him, but I'll check again. With this kind of thing it's probably best to check using all three of 25, 30 and 35 years per generation so when I check I'll do all three. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: 16 May 2011 23:16 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Nigello In a message dated 5/16/2011 4:56:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, equisand@equiformratings.com writes: I can't go by facts? I can't ask a question? That question was ably answered by Iain Kennedy. His answer complemented my own nicely. The fact that Nigellus means black in late Latin is irrelevant. That's why I said you can't go on that. It's just one name being substituted for another. One interesting example is the Irish Partholan and it's Latin equivalent, Bartholomus. <Can you give me a reference of Nigellus being so used? I don't dispute what you say, I just want to check my own searches. Read Iain Kennedy's response. I've seen the same thing myself but cannot give a specific reference off the top of my head. But I have seen the name used in Catholic parish records in Ireland as the Latin form of Neill. It's the same thing as using Jacobus for James. There are bigger fish to fry than this one. See my latest email. John R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message