[I did that rather than give the English equivalents, useful for someone trying to decipher abbreviated forms in Irish script.] I got that out of 'The Lamont Clan,1235- 1935' This would suggest that McKechnie or a genealogical adviser must have read the O'Cleary book. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: 19 May 2011 23:43 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Question for Paul Conroy In a message dated 5/19/2011 1:36:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, equisand@equiformratings.com writes: Thanks Paul Are you able to give a view on what this means? Muirchertaigh na ccochall ccrorcenn That means Muirchertach 'of the leather cloaks.' He was the son of Nial glundubh and the father of Domhnall 'of Armagh' (Arda macha). Those names were copied directly from the O'Clery Book of Genealogies pedigree for O'Neill. I did that rather than give the English equivalents, useful for someone trying to decipher abbreviated forms in Irish script. col. a) Genelach .H. Neill _Variant Readings_ (javascript:openPopWin("456.htm", 400, 400, "location,scrollbars", "cen", "cen")) 456. Toirrdhelbach luinech m Neill conallaigh m Airt oicc m Cuind m Enri m eogain m Neill oicc m Neill moir m Aedha m Domhnaill m Briain catha duinn m Neill ruaidh m Aeda (.i. an macam toinlesg) (col. b) m Muircertaigh muighe lugaidh m Taidhg glinne m Conchobair na fiodhbaide m Flaithbertaigh locha h-adair m Domhnaill (.i. an t-oghdamh) m Aedha athlamhain m Flaithbertaigh an trostain m Muircertaigh mhidhigh m Domhnaill arda macha m Muircertaigh na ccocal ccroicenn m Neill glunduibh m Aedha finnleith m Nell caille m Aedha oirdnide m Neill frosaigh m Ferghail m Maile duin (col. c) m Maile fithrigh m Aedha uairidhnigh m Domhnaill ilcealccaigh m Muircertaigh m Muiredaigh m Eoghain m Neill naighiallaigh. I still haven't heard anything about a possible revised reading on the new transcription. John R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message