Thanks so much for the ties between Lamont and Black. I descend from a line of Blacks from Ahoghil, Antrim that according to their family history descend from a Captain Lamont who arrived with Monroe's Army in 1742 and whose descendants took the surname Black. Unfortunately, while we have musters in Ireland for that period I've not located any information relating to where they mustered the Scots army. I have David Stevenson's "Scottish Covenanters and Irish Confederates" but of course my man is not identified therein. This line produced Rev. John Black, who fled from the British in 1797 for Philadelphia. He later settled in Pittsburgh, PA, and became a well known national figure over the United Irish Rebellion and the issue of slavery. The Reformed Presbyterian church voted in 1800 to disallow members to own slaves. This sparked a schism in South Carolina which resulted in many people moving to Ohio or Pennsylvania, among them my ancestor, John's brother Robert. http://www.covenanter.org/JBlack/johnblack.htm http://www.pcahistory.org/biography/black.html So it was of great interest to learn of the Lamonts' preference for the surname Black. Linda Merle From: "Sandy Paterson" < equisand@equiformratings.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] O'Cainus To: < dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000001cc1497$9877b160$c9671420$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Bernard This is very interesting. I'm not sure how much you know about the Lamonts, but after the massacre in 1646, they seem to have more or less disappeared from the Cowal peninsula. There are signs (from birth registrations) that McPhadrick Lamonts and McQuein Lamonts (who I think are actually McEwen of Otter descendants) ended up in Moray. Many fled to Ireland. Judging from the number of Lamonts in Argyllshire today, not too many ever returned. My descendants did seem to, around 1730. By the way, I'm a Lamont bastard thrice removed. Anyway, I can see plenty work ahead. Thanks for your help so far. Cheers Sandy

I don't know how well know the Lamont family DNA project website, but it contains a letter written by one of the Archibald Lamonts (15th or 16th chief, I think) in response to a letter he received from a man with the surname Black from Ireland towards the end of the 17th century. You don't have to sign in to read the letter. Just go to the site and click on HISTORIES in the menu in red on the left. You may have to search a little to find it but I think it's in one of the first three articles. Also there is about the funniest bit of writing I've read for years. It's a reply by one member of the cloth to a letter he received from another member of the cloth to do with the grazing rights for 8 cows on the farm Stronyarraig, where my putative ggggg-grandfather was born in 1744. Steinbeck would have been proud of it, even though it's not his writing style. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lmerle@comcast.net Sent: 17 May 2011 19:06 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: [R-M222] O'Cainus Thanks so much for the ties between Lamont and Black. I descend from a line of Blacks from Ahoghil, Antrim that according to their family history descend from a Captain Lamont who arrived with Monroe's Army in 1742 and whose descendants took the surname Black. Unfortunately, while we have musters in Ireland for that period I've not located any information relating to where they mustered the Scots army. I have David Stevenson's "Scottish Covenanters and Irish Confederates" but of course my man is not identified therein.