David, Somerland as far as I know is a historic figure. Though it's probable his genealogy showing a connection to the Three Colla's is a fabrication. There's some data out there suggesting he was R1a for example. A good genealogy to follow would be that of "The O'Brien" aka. Conor Myles John O'Brien, 18th Baron Inchiquin. He's a linear descendant of Briain Boru (died 1014) and is removed by 32 generations. Given that Briain was born in 10th century (and Desmond in mid 20th century) that works out as an average of about 3 generations/century within that lineage. -Paul (DF41+) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, David Maclennan < david.maclennan@utoronto.ca> wrote: > Dear Paul, > I asked you in a recent post whether Somerled was mythical and, if > not, > whether McDonald¹s or other pedigrees leading back to Somerled could be > investigated for generations/century. This question would also be relevant > for pedigrees going back to other figures of this period (800-1200) such > as Kenneth McAlpin or the McKenzie earls in Scotland or any other well > known figures. Can you or others find any good pedigrees and measure > generation time over the last 800-1200 years? > The generations/century for the Ceneil Eoghain ending with > Muirchertach > is 3 generations/ century using the generally accepted pedigree. Is this > true for other branches of the UI Niall? Most people in our forum have > pedigrees going back to the mid 1700s. What are the generation times for > these? It would be very useful for the understanding of our heritage if we > had a good consensus on this number. > David > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

34 generations if you go back to Briain's grandfather Lorcan, before then the Dál gCais genealogy might get bit shaky as there been modifications made for political reasons. -Paul (DF41+) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ <pduffy81@gmail.com> wrote: > David, > > Somerland as far as I know is a historic figure. Though it's probable his > genealogy showing a connection to the Three Colla's is a fabrication. > There's some data out there suggesting he was R1a for example. > > A good genealogy to follow would be that of "The O'Brien" aka. Conor Myles > John O'Brien, 18th Baron Inchiquin. He's a linear descendant of Briain Boru > (died 1014) and is removed by 32 generations. Given that Briain was born in > 10th century (and Desmond in mid 20th century) that works out as an average > of about 3 generations/century within that lineage. > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, David Maclennan < > david.maclennan@utoronto.ca> wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> I asked you in a recent post whether Somerled was mythical and, >> if not, >> whether McDonald¹s or other pedigrees leading back to Somerled could be >> investigated for generations/century. This question would also be relevant >> for pedigrees going back to other figures of this period (800-1200) such >> as Kenneth McAlpin or the McKenzie earls in Scotland or any other well >> known figures. Can you or others find any good pedigrees and measure >> generation time over the last 800-1200 years? >> The generations/century for the Ceneil Eoghain ending with >> Muirchertach >> is 3 generations/ century using the generally accepted pedigree. Is this >> true for other branches of the UI Niall? Most people in our forum have >> pedigrees going back to the mid 1700s. What are the generation times for >> these? It would be very useful for the understanding of our heritage if we >> had a good consensus on this number. >> David >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >