That is pretty much it, apart from it not showing the branching off of FGC5939 and the potential branching to FGC8739 under DF97. I will see about updating it. Iain > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 23:20:05 +0100 > From: pduffy81@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > Paul, > > Iain has a "Label only version" of his tree, though I don't know when it > was last updated see here: > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222_tree.png > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Paul Conroy <pconroy63@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Iain, > > > > Thanks to you and all the other collaborators for getting this far. > > > > Is it possible to get an updated tree, with just the branch labels and > > SNP's? I'm going to try and get a few more people to test for the SNP just > > above PF1169, which is S566? I'm also try and get more of my private SNP's > > listed by YSEQ, as then people who are positive can for S566, can then > > begin to test for these. > > > > As many of you know, PF1169 has been deemed too hard to create a single SNP > > (Sanger Sequencing) test for, as it is in a highly repetitive area of the > > Y-chromosome. > > > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM, john.loughney@gmail.com < > > john.loughney@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for this, the tree is definitely looking interesting. For us > > S600+ > > > DF85- folks with Chromo 2 tests, are the recommended SNPs A259, A260, > > S588, > > > A223, A224, A225, ... for a total of (at least) 6 SNPs to test? > > > > > > I think I am going to bite the bullet ... > > > > > > thanks, > > > John > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Iain Kennedy < > > ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have now managed to get hold of enough data and permissions to > > upload a > > > > new tree with the following changes > > > > > > > > 1. FGC4087 has now been merged with FGC4077 and FGC4078 > > > > 2. The FGC12948 branch linking Wilson and Sheridan has been added > > > > underneath > > > > 3. Four people have been moved under FGC8739 which is under DF97: McKee > > > > B4398, Donaldson, McConnaughhay 205297 and Dowell > > > > 4. Dunbar 205549 has been added under S7814 (he is F1265-), he shares > > no > > > > markers with Hamilton on first look > > > > 5. O'Donnell 329279 is now under DF97 > > > > 6. Moody 565 and Braswell 230303 appear to have the same combination of > > > > A259+, A260+ but no report for FGC5939.2 as does O'Shaughnessy so I > > have > > > > put the three of them together provisionally, pending a review of the > > raw > > > > data to confirm the ancestral status for FGC5939. > > > > > > > > I would hope that those who got an S660 as their terminal SNP from > > > Chromo2 > > > > or FTDNA/YSEQ but have NO sequencing results would be testing these new > > > > branches. All the sub-branches of S660 are on sale at shop.YSEQ.net. > > As > > > > explained previously, if you DID do a BigY or FGC test you should > > already > > > > know your status for them, although if you haven't got a BAM file and > > > > shared it with me that may still be awaiting final proof. > > > > > > > > The other big block that needs breaking up is DF97 and there you can > > test > > > > FGC8739. > > > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iain, I came up S668+ in Chromo2, so I have ordered DF97 from FTDNA (to save the delay of sending a YSEQ kit to Australia, then back again). As I still have another 4 to 8 weeks to wait, I wondered if it might make sense in the meantime to order FGC8739 from YSEQ in anticipation of a DF97+ result. If I get a DF97-, then I've only wasted $25 on the YSEQ test (assuming I get it while the sale's on.) If I get DF97+ then I've saved a couple of weeks by having the 2 tests done more or less simultaneously. Does that sound like a reasonable strategy or am I becoming a dna-test addict? Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Iain Kennedy Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:22 PM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update That is pretty much it, apart from it not showing the branching off of FGC5939 and the potential branching to FGC8739 under DF97. I will see about updating it. Iain > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 23:20:05 +0100 > From: pduffy81@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > Paul, > > Iain has a "Label only version" of his tree, though I don't know when it > was last updated see here: > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222_tree.png > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Paul Conroy <pconroy63@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Iain, > > > > Thanks to you and all the other collaborators for getting this far. > > > > Is it possible to get an updated tree, with just the branch labels and > > SNP's? I'm going to try and get a few more people to test for the SNP > > just > > above PF1169, which is S566? I'm also try and get more of my private > > SNP's > > listed by YSEQ, as then people who are positive can for S566, can then > > begin to test for these. > > > > As many of you know, PF1169 has been deemed too hard to create a single > > SNP > > (Sanger Sequencing) test for, as it is in a highly repetitive area of > > the > > Y-chromosome. > > > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM, john.loughney@gmail.com < > > john.loughney@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for this, the tree is definitely looking interesting. For us > > S600+ > > > DF85- folks with Chromo 2 tests, are the recommended SNPs A259, A260, > > S588, > > > A223, A224, A225, ... for a total of (at least) 6 SNPs to test? > > > > > > I think I am going to bite the bullet ... > > > > > > thanks, > > > John > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Iain Kennedy < > > ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have now managed to get hold of enough data and permissions to > > upload a > > > > new tree with the following changes > > > > > > > > 1. FGC4087 has now been merged with FGC4077 and FGC4078 > > > > 2. The FGC12948 branch linking Wilson and Sheridan has been added > > > > underneath > > > > 3. Four people have been moved under FGC8739 which is under DF97: > > > > McKee > > > > B4398, Donaldson, McConnaughhay 205297 and Dowell > > > > 4. Dunbar 205549 has been added under S7814 (he is F1265-), he > > > > shares > > no > > > > markers with Hamilton on first look > > > > 5. O'Donnell 329279 is now under DF97 > > > > 6. Moody 565 and Braswell 230303 appear to have the same combination > > > > of > > > > A259+, A260+ but no report for FGC5939.2 as does O'Shaughnessy so I > > have > > > > put the three of them together provisionally, pending a review of > > > > the > > raw > > > > data to confirm the ancestral status for FGC5939. > > > > > > > > I would hope that those who got an S660 as their terminal SNP from > > > Chromo2 > > > > or FTDNA/YSEQ but have NO sequencing results would be testing these > > > > new > > > > branches. All the sub-branches of S660 are on sale at shop.YSEQ.net. > > As > > > > explained previously, if you DID do a BigY or FGC test you should > > already > > > > know your status for them, although if you haven't got a BAM file > > > > and > > > > shared it with me that may still be awaiting final proof. > > > > > > > > The other big block that needs breaking up is DF97 and there you can > > test > > > > FGC8739. > > > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message