Part of the goal is to make it easier for more people to not to have to worry about lots of people to work with, but that's okay. Anyone who is sends me a Chromo 2 result to post in the shared file folder I will forward to Iain as well. His work his valuable so we want him to get it. Susan H and Alex Williamson have access to the shared file folder at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/files/Chromo_2_L21_S145_results/ I've prefixed all M222 Chromo 2 files with "M222" and the files are sorted alphabetically so you can quickly find them. Their FTDNA kit # is included in the file name also so you can go look up their Y STRs if that is something you are cross-checking. Anyone who is M222+ is by default L21/S145+ so they are invited to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/ BTW, all of the .vcf/.bed files for Big Y results are in the a similar file folder at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/files/Big_Y_results/ It is sorted and labeled similarly so you'll find M222 files sorted together. I don't know if you are familiar with Alex Williamson. He's a very sharp person who is well versed in working with FGC, FTDNA and Chromo 2 so I recommend making sure he gets a crack at your data. Here is his "big tree" for L21 of Next Generation (FGC and Big Y) data. M222 is under DF49 about in the middle as you scroll left and right using the bar at the bottom of the screen. http://www.littlescottishcluster.com/RL21/NGS/Tree.html The nice thing about this kind of perspective is Alex is showing the "blocks" of SNPs which have a "time-line" value in displaying the branching. I have a couple of M222 who haven't given approval to share Big Y results so we are missing a couple of those as well as I think there is one or two FGC results not shared. If anyone sees they are missing and wants to be included let me know. Regards, Mike W On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com>wrote: > Thank you but I have no wish to join other projects or forums. If people > want their data analysed by me, they can send it to me. It takes 30 seconds. > > If anyone has only sent their data to Mike Walsh's project and not heard > from me about the analysis or where they slot in to the tree, I encourage > them to get in touch directly as there is a danger they will get missed. > > Iain > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 07:56:13 -0500 > > From: mwwdna@gmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Byrne - 236891 > > > > You are both welcome to join.... I just checked and I see you are in the > > group, Doug. I just invited Iain. > > > > Joining the R1b-L21-project yahoo group doesn't mean you need to post > > messages if you don't want. You can also set your messaging options to > > receive no emails so you don't have to receive messages either. The one > > thing you get is a free shared file space. This is a good way to share > data > > a little more openly. Unfortunately, when we do all of things on our own > > personal PCs or personal websites, God forbid, if something happens to > one > > of us the work is lost. > > > > Susan H is a co-moderator in that R1b-L21-project group. We (or she) > could > > easily setup M222 only folders. > > > > Of course, last year I offered to setup up an M222 specific yahoo group > for > > you. That's always an option too. I can set it up, and I can personally > > drop out too if that is desired. > > > > I've seen this happen where we lose track of stuff and we can't figure it > > out later when someone is no longer available. That's all. > > > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/ > > > > Mike W > > > > > > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:20 AM, tuulen <tuulen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ​............​

> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 11:46:42 -0500 > From: mwwdna@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Byrne - 236891 > > Part of the goal is to make it easier for more people to not to have to > worry about lots of people to work with, but that's okay. > No that is not the goal here. That dialog that you are in the process of removing is *critical* repeat critical to what I do and if I may say so, Susan does even more of it than I do. For me, not being a project admin, it is doubly critical as I have no direct way of communicating with a tester unless they are already known as a forum poster or make direct contact with me. You asked me if I am aware of Alex, of course I am aware of what he does and what you do. There is however no comparison between the high level analysis of upstream projects involving thousands of members and the detailed work looking at raw data, talking about other tests that have been done in the past, making sure followup tests are being considered etc. Telling people we have had no contact with that all they need to do is dump a file in some directory somewhere then disappear is not a solution. I want to hear from these people and I am sure Susan does too; likewise David and Linda although they at least can see email addresses so it may be less of an issue for them. Iain