Hi John, After my first testing at 37 STR markers I was designated as being R-M269, but then after testing for the earlier Deep Clade SNP test the results were then further refined and I was designated as R-M222. Everybody belongs to an SNP haplogroup such as M222 and a terminal SNP represents the furthest downstream or the most recent SNP of their haplogroup. Oh, and R-M222 and M222 are basically the same term, meaning the same thing. Doug On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:17 PM, David Maclennan <david.maclennan@utoronto.ca > wrote: > John, > I was fooled recently when I found a "new relative" at a GD of 7. I > searched him out and found that he shared 3/8/67 of my off-modals, which > cancelled out, but the main reason for the low GD was that he was so close > to modal that he added only 2 other differences from modal. That, plus my > 5 other off modals = 7. Incidentally, he is DF97+ and I am S7814+,F1265+. > > David > > > > On 2014-05-07, 3:01 PM, "john.loughney@gmail.com" > <john.loughney@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I wonder if anyone has dug into their yDNA matches on FTDNA lately. If I > >look at my 12 step matches, there are a lot of people with updated > >haplogroups. Are they updating everyone's haplogroups proactively, and any > >sense if these updated haplogroups are accurate? > > > >I am seeing things like R-M269, R-DF23, R-P312, and a few blank > >haplogroups. I am still at M222 and all of my 67 step matches are either > >M222+ or blank. > > > >Oh, and one dumb question, what is the difference between Haplogroup and > >Terminal SNP on FTDNA? (R M222 vs M222 for example?) > > > >John > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >