Hello, I'm an m222, but not of the fdna niall badge variety. I'd like to find out what subdivision I fall into. I've read that Chromo2 raw data gives you superset of df85 but you can't tell if you fall into df85 or not from chromo2 raw data. I've Previously bought all-my-ancestry y and mtdna tests from scotlandsDna and ydna test from ftdna. What's my best bet for subdividing m222 - purchase of ftdna df85 and maybe df97 snp tests , or the chromo2 raw data update available on special until may 31? Thanks, Donald Barnett, (Scottish ancestor born in Orkney)

Dear Donald, Perhaps there is a misinterpretation regarding Chromo2 raw data. For those M222 who do not know where they fall in the phylogenetic scheme of M222, Chromo2 Raw Data is an excellent product to sort that out. The majority of major down stream SNPs falling below M222 are tested by the scan; DF97 is the only exception that I am aware of, and of course some of the newer ID'd SNPs coming out of next generation sequencing, the majority of those we know little about yet, and some are under investigation. You could test singly through FTDNA for some SNPs and through YSEQ for most of those that are on Chromo2 less expensively than at FTDNA at least until June 15. If you are DF97 coming out of single SNP testing there is an additional SNP speculatively below it your could test, but the early looks for that seem to indicate that a lot of DF97 will also test positive for it, so it's utility for further subdividing DF97 is yet in question. If on the other hand you were DF85+ and DF97- there is another SNP in S668 in between and you would want to test that to see. The catch is with single SNP testing is that if you are negative for the targeted SNPs then you are only as far ahead in the game to know what you are not, but you still don't know what you are. If your finances are such that about $200.00 American isn't an burden, many to most of us would recommend Chromo2 Raw data. Barring that, you could single SNP test...presently at the YSEQ sale, $105.00 will purchase you 4 SNPs, and that is until June 15...unless extended on June 16 the price goes up. Presently FTDNA is $39.00 per SNP and if you've never done any up-grading there will be an additional transfer fee of $10.00. I hope you find the helpful. Susan On 5/29/2014 10:02 AM, Donald Alexander Barnett wrote: > Hello, > > > > I'm an m222, but not of the fdna niall badge variety. I'd like to find out > what subdivision I fall into. I've read that > > Chromo2 raw data gives you superset of df85 but you can't tell if you fall > into df85 or not from chromo2 raw data. I've > > Previously bought all-my-ancestry y and mtdna tests from scotlandsDna and > ydna test from ftdna. What's my best > > bet for subdividing m222 - purchase of ftdna df85 and maybe df97 snp tests , > or the chromo2 raw data update available on special until may 31? > > > > Thanks, > > Donald Barnett, (Scottish ancestor born in Orkney) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Until June 15th its worth considering just a small group of SNPs at YSEQ at USD25 each; for example S660, FGC4077, S588, DF85 together would be only USD100. Chromo2 has good overall coverage of sub-M222 SNPs but there are a few that aren't on it - FGC4077/8/87 and the new branches under S660. Right now FTDNA is the last choice. Later in the year things may change around of course. Iain > From: dbarne@nb.sympatico.ca > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:02:24 -0300 > Subject: [R-M222] Which is better for subdividing m222, chromo2 or ftdna tests like df85 and df97 > > Hello, > > > > I'm an m222, but not of the fdna niall badge variety. I'd like to find out > what subdivision I fall into. I've read that > > Chromo2 raw data gives you superset of df85 but you can't tell if you fall > into df85 or not from chromo2 raw data. I've > > Previously bought all-my-ancestry y and mtdna tests from scotlandsDna and > ydna test from ftdna. What's my best > > bet for subdividing m222 - purchase of ftdna df85 and maybe df97 snp tests , > or the chromo2 raw data update available on special until may 31? > > > > Thanks, > > Donald Barnett, (Scottish ancestor born in Orkney) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message