It's a possibility, Flatley and Loughney were both S660+ as well, so it could point to Uí Fhiachrach as S660+ in general. We really need someone with an Uí Bhriúin surname to test (Rourke, O'Connor, Concannon). If you got an Uí Bhriúin S660+ then things would get interesting. Brion and Fiachrae after all were supposedly Niall's half-brothers. -Paul (DF41+) On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Bernard Morgan <bernardmorgan@hotmail.com>wrote: > What the O'Shaughnessy result suggest that A259, A260 marks a branch of Ui > Fiachrach? > > > >From Irish Names and Surnames 1923 by Fr Woulfe > Ó SEACHNASAIGH—I—O'Shaughnessy, O'Shoughnessy, O'Shannessy, O'Shanesy, > Shaughnessy, Shannessy, &c.; 'descendant of Seachnasach'; the name of a > branch of the Ui Fiachrach Aidhne, in Co. Galway. On the decline of the > kindred family of O'Cahill in the 13th century, the O'Shaughnessys became > chiefs of Cinel Aodha, anglicised Kinelea, the district lying around the > town of Gort; but they are only rarely mentioned in the Irish annals before > the reign of Henry VIII. In 1533, Dermot O'Shaughnessy, the then 'chief of > his nation,' was knighted, and ten years later he surrendered all the > clan-lands to the crown in order to receive them back by letters-patent. > > > > > > I have permission to share the Big Y "raw results" for these three A259, > > A260 folks. This does not give me access to the .bam files but does > include > > the .vcf and .bed files, which still has a lot of info. That's what I > > import in the the discovery comparison spreadsheet > > > > f36712 O'Shaughnessy > > f88905 Degnen > > f56154 Howle > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >