Bill, I have read your description of your methodology and found it was based on STR variation, both myself and Busby pointed out the problems with this. But if you won't defend it, that's fine - enough said. Maybe you can answer this then, here are some people from the M222 group, which were SNP tested and came up negative for M222 (or M222-), their haplogroup is marked in GREEN: 25105 McLaughlin R1b1 27071 McCord R1b1 14740 Cowen R1b1 32498 Doherty R1b1 These people are close matches to others who have NOT been SNP tested, so these others could also be M222-. Why would M222- people be used in calculating the TMRCA of M222+ people????? Cheers, Paul On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Bill Howard <weh8@verizon.net> wrote: > I stand by all my postings. You say you are not reading my papers and > naturally you won't understand my approach. > My papers are being published — two already and four more in the works; > others are reading them. > I have written Sandy privately about the challenge and have given him > reasons why I don't want to participate -- mainly because there is no > reciprocity in discussions of differences. Let's not continue this fruitless > harangue. > - Bye from Bill Howard > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul I can confirm that Bill e-mailed me out of forum to explain why he declined Ken Nordtvedt's challenge. I can also state that I burst out laughing when I read his e-mail. However, it is his right to e-mail me directly, and it would be wrong of me to divulge the contents of his e-mail. Nonetheless, I think that it would be in the interests of the M222 forum if he were to post his reasons in-forum. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conroy Sent: 11 October 2011 19:03 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Summary of a distracting series Bill, I have read your description of your methodology and found it was based on STR variation, both myself and Busby pointed out the problems with this.