Thanks, Bill. I was hoping the analysis of YDNA vs modal could lead to the determination of family clusters, not for health information. I can see how complicated that sort of analysis could be. I did have the confirming SNP test done, even though my marker values led to the R-M222 determination. Let me know if any discussions could be productive. Bob Bob Quinn President&CEO Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants Partner at Bay Street Investors/Bay Street Partners Co-Chair ACS GCI Manufacturer's Roundtable 27 Langton Lane Newtown Square, Pa, 19073 T:610-331-4920 e-mail:raaq@live.com Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobquinnspecialtychemicals > From: weh8@verizon.net > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:48:23 -0400 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Summary of a distracting series > > To Bob Quinn and the list, > > As far as I know, there has been no study of the sort about which you inquired. If you are seeking health information, Y-DNA usually does not speak to those issues. > > I am not a fan of the use of modals in analysis since a modal may be, but may not be, that of the progenitor of a group you are interested in. So I ignore modals in my Y-DNA analysis. > > As I understand it, the definition of M222 has slightly changed with more and more research done on the SNP. FTDNA offers a test, but others say that if certain marker values in your haplotype coincide with the marker values that are characteristic of the SNP, then you belong to M222 and that you don't need the test. I ascribe to that thought. > > The fact that markers in your M222 haplotype might be different from markers of other carriers of the SNP will certainly be a strong indicator of the family cluster within M222 to which you belong. Little research has been one on marker by marker comparisons among surname clusters and, were that to be done via a pretty complicated computer analysis, we might know a lot more about the evolution of surname clusters within groups like M222. I have been hoping that some computer-savvy person might work with me to do that, but there have been no takers so far. It needs to be done via sets of one-on-one phone sessions or Skype conversations because there are important nuances in the approach that must be avoided. > > Email is to inform; phone is to discuss. > > - Bye from Bill Howard > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Bob Quinn wrote: > > > > > I am RM222 and would like to know if there is any STR by STR analysis of the modal YDNA for RM222 that would indicate what various differences to the modal might mean for an individual? > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message