> From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 02:36:39 +0000 > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Laud 610 Leinster and Munster M222+ families > > > Another family was the O'Mearadhaigh (Eoganacht in origin?) of Ui Fathaidh of southern Tipperary. This last family is linked to the north Tipperary (once part of the Ui Neill lands) family of O'Meara of Rosarguid, chief of Ui Fathaidh, Ui Neill, and Ui Eochaidh Finn, in the barony of Upper Ormond. There is also mention that the territory Ui Fathaidh of Tipperary is now placed within Upperthird and Middlethird baronies (Gaultiere was formerly named Offath), so Tipperary and Waterford have numerous kinships claiming ties with Dal Conn? > > Does someone know more? > I am not sure if I follow exactly what you are claiming here or even what time periods you are speaking of. Once surnames emerged in the 12th century the O'Kennedys were lords of Ormond and there were only two surnames that dominated the two Ormond baronies: O'Kennedy and Gleeson. No-one else comes close. I haven't looked into the matter of Gleeson DNA which I should have I guess. Some of the Tipperary Kennedys are Irish Type III, and I have yet to see an M222 Kennedy with a paper trail that far south. Currently Cavan and Sligo is the southern limit for us. However, if M222 was part of the genetic background pre-surname adoption in the area then some local Kennedys might have ended up M222. So I will keep watching out with interest. Iain

Hi, My father's family is from northern Ulster, I am M222, and I have a 24/25 match to a Kennedy. Doug On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com >> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 02:36:39 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [R-M222] Laud 610 Leinster and Munster M222+ families >> >> >> Another family was the O'Mearadhaigh (Eoganacht in origin?) of Ui Fathaidh of southern Tipperary. This last family is linked to the north Tipperary (once part of the Ui Neill lands) family of O'Meara of Rosarguid, chief of Ui Fathaidh, Ui Neill, and Ui Eochaidh Finn, in the barony of Upper Ormond. There is also mention that the territory Ui Fathaidh of Tipperary is now placed within Upperthird and Middlethird baronies (Gaultiere was formerly named Offath), so Tipperary and Waterford have numerous kinships claiming ties with Dal Conn? >> >> Does someone know more? >> > > I am not sure if I follow exactly what you are claiming here or even what time periods you are speaking of. Once surnames emerged in the 12th century the O'Kennedys were lords of Ormond and there were only two surnames that dominated the two Ormond baronies: O'Kennedy and Gleeson. No-one else comes close. I haven't looked into the matter of Gleeson DNA which I should have I guess. Some of the Tipperary Kennedys are Irish Type III, and I have yet to see an M222 Kennedy with a paper trail that far south. Currently Cavan and Sligo is the southern limit for us. However, if M222 was part of the genetic background pre-surname adoption in the area then some local Kennedys might have ended up M222. So I will keep watching out with interest. > Iain >  R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >