Indeed, there were certainly others before Cromwell and as you right point out, the O'Dochartaighs also had earlier ties with Mayo. It will be interesting to learn what has to be said on the 17th, especially, as it now looks like some of the SNPs used in the study may not be reliable indicators to M222+. I see the Manley result has come through DF85-, that is worthy of note. As I said before, another branch was already known to exist and this branch is also important. If there is a DF85+ there should be a DF85- in the O'Dochartaigh Clan. Some of this will soon become more apparent once more of the DF85+ results come through in Scotland and we finally work out that matrix posted by Iain Kennedy. Also, it will be important to compare your Chromo2 with mine and several others, given all the research so far, including that carried out by the late John McLaughlin, strongly indicates, our two separate branches represent the oldest with a common ancestry pre-dating Niall of the Nine Hostages. Alan In a message dated 12/11/2013 00:42:58 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: To "Hell or Connaught" was made famous by Cromwell. But even before Oliver's time there were migrations from Ulster to Mayo. One interesting one for the O'Dochartaigh Clann is the migration of Maonghaile O'Dochartaigh's descendants ( Munnelley, Monnellly, Manley) from Donegal to Ballymunnelley, Ballycastle and Cloontikilla, Mayo prior to 1585. This precedes Cahir O'Dochartaigh's rebellion and the Plantation of Ulster. It appears that, like the McDevitts, the Munnelly/Monnelley/Manley sept may prove to be another branch of the O'Dochartaigh. I have started discussions with Paul Manley investigate this connection and why they migrated to Mayo when they did. Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message