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    1. [R-M222] A quote from Robert Brooks Casey R1b-L21 at yahoo forum
    2. Linda McKee
    3. > 3) Since the CROMO2 test does not publish the YChr positions to the > public, many very meaningful YSNPs under R-L21 (and other English > speaking origins) can only be tested at English DNA. With the flood > of Full Genomes and Big Y tests, many of these YSNPs will be > identified to become available for FTDNA testing. FTDNA also > announced that several thousand new YSNPs were discovered by data > mining the "entire" Nat Geo 2.0 database (not just those transferred > to FTDNA). They stated another ten R-M222 YSNPs were found in this > method - now up to around 24 YSNPs under R-M222. Of the 25,000 static > YSNPs being tested, many more came from other academic sources (and > probably some from early Full Genomes results). Many of these will > add to the ISOGG haplotree as did the Nat Geo 2.0 tests have. >

    11/16/2013 02:46:06
    1. Re: [R-M222] A quote from Robert Brooks Casey R1b-L21 at yahoo forum
    2. Iain Kennedy
    3. This number of 'new' Geno M222 SNPs must set some kind of record for the number of times it's changed ;-) It still fails to make any sense since all the ones on the diagram from their talk are already on the Geno 2.0 chip (I checked each one manually in my Geno file) and no SNP on the chip is new in any meaningful sense of the word anyway... unless the database also has data that was obtained by some other method than the Geno 2.0 chip which I'm not aware of. In which case their list of SNP names was wrong. Not to mention the question of how they will get them through qualification for the ISOGG tree (see the criteria I posted the other day) without transferring them to FTDNA and manually checking STR diversity, for which each tester would have to have a set of STRs which at this stage they probably don't. I give up. Until they reveal all, tomorrow. Iain > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:46:06 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [R-M222] A quote from Robert Brooks Casey R1b-L21 at yahoo forum > > > 3) Since the CROMO2 test does not publish the YChr positions to the > > public, many very meaningful YSNPs under R-L21 (and other English > > speaking origins) can only be tested at English DNA. With the flood > > of Full Genomes and Big Y tests, many of these YSNPs will be > > identified to become available for FTDNA testing. FTDNA also > > announced that several thousand new YSNPs were discovered by data > > mining the "entire" Nat Geo 2.0 database (not just those transferred > > to FTDNA). They stated another ten R-M222 YSNPs were found in this > > method - now up to around 24 YSNPs under R-M222. Of the 25,000 static > > YSNPs being tested, many more came from other academic sources (and > > probably some from early Full Genomes results). Many of these will > > add to the ISOGG haplotree as did the Nat Geo 2.0 tests have. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/16/2013 10:06:25