Bob, on another note, since there is a lot of confusion at present about these tests, it will be important for those of us on this forum to test out certain claims. Some of us are working on this and we know the weak areas already. I understand Brendan Davitt is still waiting on his DF97 test, which will be important. Since it is known, the McDavitts are a branch of the O'Dochartaighs downstream and we known the split occurred within an historic timeframe, which the late John McLaughlin also worked on, we know roughly, when it branched off. If it comes back positive, then another link in the chain has been formed since Brendan's STRs are close the O'Dochartaigh line. Take a look and pay special attention to YCAIIb and then CDYa-b and then look at 413a-b = 21-21. If Brendan's result comes back positive, this will give us a timeline to compare with others that are DF97+, and others that are only DF85+ and not DF97-. The work continues. Alan In a message dated 09/11/2013 01:18:47 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I just placed an order for Chromo2 (C2RawYDNA) with Irelands DNA. Does anyone have an idea of the turn around time from ordering the test to seeing actual Chromo2 results (assuming one returns the test kit promptly)? I sure hope BISDNA listens to Susan's plea for transparency between testing entity labeling of SNPs. I would think that BISDNA could see some benefits to themselves from the research and analysis that the members on this site have already contributed to understanding how YDNA can be made relevant to their customers who want to see how YDNA complements genealogy efforts. Also, does anyone have any comment on the YDNA testing that Ancestry.com is offering? I am trying to figure out what one gets for Ancestry's $99 (USD) package that they are promoting to existing users of Ancestry.com and FamilyTreeMaker. Bob Doherty FTDNA Kit 29142, M222+ df97+ df85+ Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message