I have received advance notification of my raw results and after analysing the file it appears that I am ancestral for all the new SNPs in the Jim Wilson diagram. I have just double checked this directly with Jim to confirm. I have therefore placed myself provisionally right at the top of the diagram alongside Steve Lominac. Apparently 17% of samples so far are in this group but I don't know how many samples that is based on, it seems that the initial batch are back from the lab so it may be more than when the diagram was first released. My paper trail is entirely Scottish and traces back to Fortingall in Perthshire in 1660. No known Irish names are in this group so far. Make of it what you will, and I await more results eagerly. The upload of raw results is still a few days away so its probably best if we leave them to get on with it. If and when people do get their results, if they wish to appear in the M222 diagram I am maintaining please can they send me a copy of their raw data file. http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf Iain