Yes, Susan, > 11 off modal at 37 and has the Nial Badge? .......he is a transfer today into the SNP M222+ Project.......a new member of M222+ but coming from another FTDNA yDNA group. I was being a bit facetious with my post as I recall being asked about if my 127187 was really M222+ before I had his SNP M222+ tested a few years back. ;-) Will share his kit number with you offline but not for public unless by his choice. Linda On 11/17/2013 12:33 PM, Susan Hedeen wrote: > 11 off modal at 37 and has the Nial Badge? Did he SNP test or test > w/Geno2? That's wild if he didn't because I've never seen them predict > by haplotype that far out at all. > > I think we've got these new SNPs because both citizen scientists and > geneticists alike have been looking into the 1000 Genome material which > was released. That's where Andy G found df85 & df97; Geno2 supposedly > got some of their SNPs from there, WTY, and other work that Thomas K did > as well as other research; Jim Wilson for Chromo2 got df85 from Andy G, > also looked into 1000 Genomes, other research, and in house work, too. > > Some equate the new products because of competition from FGC; in truth, > perhaps not as these products have development time and although there > may have been rumors of a new start up, that really isn't enough time > for product developments, so the timing for all of them probably > competitively coincidental. > > Britains DNA for instance started test driving Chromo2 earlier this > year, a bit later than FGC was kicking off if I remember, but FGC didn't > have much in the way of data at that point; Geno2 information--a lot of > it had already been released and they had been planning for the new Geno > (in our future) at the time G2 began. As for Big Y, FTDNA acquired a > couple of companies one which had more sequencing capability, they'd > been up-grading facilities (from what I hear anyway), and they've the > data from "WTY", Geno2 plus the further research to now kick off BigY. > > On 11/17/2013 1:10 PM, Linda McKee wrote: >> Is it remotely possible that one of the reasons we suddenly have all >> these new SNPs for M222+ can be explained by a new member having 11 off >> modal markers on 37 markers tested and still be given the Niall badge? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >