You can add me to the list - f145320 Byrne On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DF85- (Linda McKee) > 2. Re: DF85- (Susan Hedeen) > 3. Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Linda McKee) > 4. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Bernard Morgan) > 5. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (David Maclennan) > 6. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (David Wilson) > 7. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Sandi Ashley Sutton) > 8. Re: Different surnames that run in a genetic series > (Sandi Ashley Sutton) > 9. 2 DF85 Test Results posted (Linda McKee) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:11:52 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] DF85- > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Interesting that N113849 DF85- has 27 matches at 111 markers tested > (considerably more matches at 111 tested than I find "normal" in > M222+)------ > > ......one of which near the end of that list is also DF85-. Does it > follow that those 27 matches will be DF85-.........one of those matches > at 10gd/111 is a P312. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:49:40 -0500 > From: Susan Hedeen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] DF85- > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > It's enticing to contemplate that, but we've had surprises. A set I was > looking at the other day of + and -....there were 2 groups that had a > TMRCA of 475+/- ybp between them, but members of 1 group are positive > and members of the other are negative. Obviously haplotype convergence > is responsible for that, and unfortunately, we don't know that without > the SNP testing. > > There may be some within the lineages that may contemplate that if there > is a negative or positive for any of the SNPs (NOT just df85 which at > best probably, may be positive for 25% of M222) in their ranks that the > rest of the surname will be the same. > > Please verify that indeed the lineage is intact and look hard at those > haplotyps, because if the testing has taught us anything it is that some > of the surname groups may be split my SNPs. I'm sure that everyone is > sick of being reminded of the O'Dochartaigh and McConnachie groups...we > don't know yet how many surname groups other are also affected. > > The gist is: Looking for patterns what ever they may be is always a > good thing, but don't completely settle on an opinion without verifying it. > > The ultimate verification, of course are the results from testing; > however all of you know your groups the best, and certainly not everyone > within a cluster should need to test...But make certain that it is > indeed a cluster. Susan Hedeen > > On 11/20/2013 10:11 AM, Linda McKee wrote: > > Interesting that N113849 DF85- has 27 matches at 111 markers tested > > (considerably more matches at 111 tested than I find "normal" in > > M222+)------ > > > > ......one of which near the end of that list is also DF85-. Does it > > follow that those 27 matches will be DF85-.........one of those matches > > at 10gd/111 is a P312. > > > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:59:05 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:03:04 +0000 > From: Bernard Morgan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: dna-r1b1c7 <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > Yes, f83143 Morgan > > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:26:17 +0000 > From: David Maclennan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > [email protected]TORAD.Utoronto.ca > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Linda, > My Chromo 2 kit was mailed back to the UK last week. It should be > in > batch preparation by now. > David MacLennan Kit# 227811 > > On 2013-11-20 10:59 AM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > > >I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > >anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > >f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > >f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > >fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > >f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > >f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > >fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > >f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > >f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > >f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > >f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > >f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > >f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > >f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > >Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:35:53 -0800 > From: David Wilson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Linda, my Chromo2 results are not in yet. I did get notice that my FG > sequencing was complete, but there is still the analysis phase to get > through on that exercise. With luck I might have results from both > companies by the end of the month or part way through December. > > David/8999 > > > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:59:05 -0600 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:46:46 -0500 > From: "Sandi Ashley Sutton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Linda, > > We are pending Chromo2 with BritainsDNA - James Ashley f16212. > > Thanks, > Sandi > > > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:13:10 -0500 > From: "Sandi Ashley Sutton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Different surnames that run in a genetic series > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Thank you, Iain, for structuring and maintaining the Main M222 Tree View > and the Split Tree View Charts. I refer to them often. As an eager > student, the charts help me clarify the location of the recent outpouring > of new SNPS. > > I very much look forward to further additions with the ongoing testing. > > Again, thank you very much. > Sandi Ashley Sutton > > > > > > > > > > I don't see much value in the Split Tree View of M222. Because there is no > prove that the participants of different surenames run in a genetic > series.This notion is often called an infinite series. It does however > prove > that they run parallel to each other, until proved otherwise.The big > picture > will be revealed when we find matches across the pond there are thousands > here in the us that are not in the M222 project that are possibly in > series > . Mathematics One of a set of parallel geometric figures, such as lines or > > planes > The terms of the series are often produced according to a certain rule, > such as by a formula, or by an algorithm. As there are an infinite number > of > terms, this notion is often called an infinite series. Unlike finite > summations, infinite series need tools from mathematical analysis, and > specifically the notion of limits > Gene > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:00:32 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] 2 DF85 Test Results posted > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > 271782.....Kevin Thomason M222+ DF85- > > N114844....Joseph Moran M222+ DF85- > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 7, Issue 457 > ****************************************** >