If I'm not mistaken, there is a Daugherty that is neg. for df85. The Dorherty/O'Dohery do have several branches. There has been mention that the group did split more than once as well. I don't like speculating too much as the speculations can be misleading...so just take this as a question: Does anyone remember when Bill Howard and John McLaughlin noticed a bi-modality in R-M222? Could it be indicative of pre and post df85?. Trinity mentioned something to the same effect with IMH. A couple of weeks ago I noticed a possibility in the df85 df97 group at the time with the admonition that there well could be a skew because of the Ashley/Duncan/McC ++ groups...and that probably is the case. I need to get all the results from today grouped in the spread sheet I started a few weeks ago and take a good look. Those df85 positives might want to order df97 to see if it is positive or negative for your guys. Susan On 11/12/2013 6:43 PM, Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ wrote: > The Doherty's are supposedly Cinéal Chonaill, with an origin in Donegal, > having expanded into the peninsula of Inishowen (Inis Eoghain -- island of > Eoghan) in the 14th century. This was possible due to the fact that the Mac > Lochlainn had been destroyed as a force within Tír Eoghain (the country of > Eoghan) by the resurgence of the Ó Néill family over a century beforehand. > Tír Eoghain been the land of the "Cinéal nEoghain". > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > >