Hi Aidan, OK, so from the Republic of Ireland and from the State of New York, USA, liquid samples are not allowed in the mail. I can deal with that, thank you. Doug On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Aidan Byrne <[email protected]>wrote: > When sending mail via the post office from Southern Ireland, liquids are no > longer allowed to be sent through regular post to mainland UK. > > So the only way of sending a saliva sample from the Republic of Ireland, > i.e. southern Ireland, is through a courier service. I returned my sample > to BritainsDNA via UPS. > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Question (tuulen) > 2. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List ATTN: Sandy (Linda McKee) > 3. Question (B. Davitt) > 4. R: Question ([email protected]) > 5. Sandy this is the link (Linda McKee) > 6. Re: R: Question (tuulen) > 7. Question (B. Davitt) > 8. Re: Question (tuulen) > 9. Re: Question (Susan Hedeen) > 10. Re: Which test, if any? (Ed Cannon) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:51:19 -0500 > From: tuulen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Question > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CABbuToxconDbPR0oOC8bY3v-tgE5gTEK_zvcPQxRmi= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Sandy, > > I am aware that New York state in the US disallows saliva samples to be > sent through the mail, such that NY state residents must go to surrounding > states to send their samples. > > But another member here said that such samples are now no longer accepted > in the UK. > > I am about to place an order with ScotlandsDNA in the UK which requires > such saliva samples, and so that possible restriction got my attention. > > Doug > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alexander Paterson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Doug, > > > > First I've ever heard of it but I've been occupies with other things > > recently. I seriously doubt it though. > > > > Sandy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tuulen > > Sent: 21 November 2013 05:06 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [R-M222] Question > > > > Are saliva samples no longer allowed to be flown/shipped the the UK? > > > > I am about to submit to ScotlandsDNA Chromo2 test, but that involves a > > saliva sample. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:11:35 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List ATTN: Sandy > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sandy, > > Someone has probably answered this for you but I didn't look 'cause I > was happy you asked me a question I could answer ;-) > > That is Mike's terminology for his R1b-L21 "big" tree he keeps up with > all the kits under L21+.......... > > I will post a link to same if one doesn't show up right away. > > Linda > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:35:58 -0000 > > From: "Alexander Paterson" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > I'm not familiar with the reference > > > > 49-2329222-48714 > > > > What does it mean? > > > > Sandy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:19:11 -0600 > From: "B. Davitt" <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] Question > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CAHN=gBmiE+== > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I read about this on another forum last week see: > > http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1403-L21-Chromo2-tracking-and-results/page2 > . > All that was said is that liquids could no longer be shipped from The > Republic of Ireland to the British mainland. It doesn't apply to the U.S. > (except in certain states I guess) I returned my kit earlier this month and > they received it on the 11th. > Brenden > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:26:59 +0000 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [R-M222] R: Question > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > > <408017490-[email protected]b18.c13.bise6.blackberry > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > ------Messaggio originale------ > Da: B. Davitt > Mittente: [email protected] > A: [email protected] > Rispondi a: [email protected] > Oggetto: [R-M222] Question > Inviato: 27 nov 2013 14:19 > > I read about this on another forum last week see: > > http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1403-L21-Chromo2-tracking-and-results/page2 > . > All that was said is that liquids could no longer be shipped from The > Republic of Ireland to the British mainland. It doesn't apply to the U.S. > (except in certain states I guess) I returned my kit earlier this month and > they received it on the 11th. > Brenden > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:27:48 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] Sandy this is the link > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/17907527/R1b-L21_Haplotypes.zip > > > Haplotype Data for R1b-L21 All confirmed & suspected R1b-L21 > > haplotypes with all subclades including M222, DF49, L513, DF21, Z251, > > Z253, Z255, L226, CTS4466, etc. This is on the AllHts tab. The data > > comes from public FTDNA project pages, Ysearch, some from posters > > blogging the latest results. The 111 STR haplotypes are on the ExtHts > > tab. Informational Clades/Varieties, Rates and Locations > > tab/worksheets are also included. - M.W. [file is in MS Excel 2010 > > .xlsm format, can be read by OpenOffice] > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/17907527/R1b-L21_Haplotypes.zip > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:59:24 -0500 > From: tuulen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] R: Question > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CABbuToyymsL=j2NRRjOVfM7YGP3es2TSsv= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Brenden, > > Yeah, I got that same confusing message. And so now what do I do? > > It looks like we should all get on with this window of opportunity before > it closes. > > Doug > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ------Messaggio originale------ > > Da: B. Davitt > > Mittente: [email protected] > > A: [email protected] > > Rispondi a: [email protected] > > Oggetto: [R-M222] Question > > Inviato: 27 nov 2013 14:19 > > > > I read about this on another forum last week see: > > > > > > http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1403-L21-Chromo2-tracking-and-results/page2 > > . > > All that was said is that liquids could no longer be shipped from The > > Republic of Ireland to the British mainland. It doesn't apply to the U.S. > > (except in certain states I guess) I returned my kit earlier this month > and > > they received it on the 11th. > > Brenden > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:13:04 -0600 > From: "B. Davitt" <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] Question > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CAHN=gBk3AuQSLdgfOqaGc= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Doug, > Yes I do think we should take advantage of the Chromo2 test but that is my > opinion and I don't claim to be an expert. I think the Chromo2 would be > very useful to those who are DF85 neg. because it would help define all the > other branches of M222. But this is my opinion. I personally think that for > the $ Chromo2 is the best option right now but after Big Y results start > coming in that might all change. > Brenden > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:30:20 -0500 > From: tuulen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Question > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CABbuTozUy2ZMXozXh1x5-8hS-bf9-LfJ8a1O= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Brenden, > > Yeah, technology changes. But I agree with you in that the Chromo2 test > specializes in SNP testing, the hot item at this moment. And hey, I am > DF85 negative! > > Doug > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM, B. Davitt <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Doug, > > Yes I do think we should take advantage of the Chromo2 test but that is > my > > opinion and I don't claim to be an expert. I think the Chromo2 would be > > very useful to those who are DF85 neg. because it would help define all > the > > other branches of M222. But this is my opinion. I personally think that > for > > the $ Chromo2 is the best option right now but after Big Y results start > > coming in that might all change. > > Brenden > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:35:33 -0500 > From: Susan Hedeen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Question > To: [email protected], brenden davitt <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Brendan, I absolutely agree with you. With estimates being as they are, > 75% of R-M222 should test out negative for df85, hence regardless of the > df85+ results, there is yet a huge sector of R-222 who are in search of > their Y history. Chromo2 presently is the only vehicle to test ID'd down > stream SNPs not found elsewhere. > > We do not know what BigY will turn up, and it will be awhile before > those assessments will reveal how significant of a venture it may be. > Additionally the price of that is about to go up significantly. If > those who believe that this expense is too much (and it is hefty), > sequencing with other vendors is significantly more. Susan Hedeen > > On 11/27/2013 3:13 PM, B. Davitt wrote: > > Doug, > > Yes I do think we should take advantage of the Chromo2 test but that is > my > > opinion and I don't claim to be an expert. I think the Chromo2 would be > > very useful to those who are DF85 neg. because it would help define all > the > > other branches of M222. But this is my opinion. I personally think that > for > > the $ Chromo2 is the best option right now but after Big Y results start > > coming in that might all change. > > Brenden > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:41:36 -0800 (PST) > From: Ed Cannon <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Which test, if any? > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > This is to follow up on further messages from Linda and Doug, which I do > appreciate very much. > > Doug, I did sign up to the Cannon Surname Project and am in the first > > group there with a number of matches who also trace back by documentary > genealogy to my ancestor John Cannon (1712-1763), who was born in Dover, > Kent, England (to the best of my knowledge).? I just got notice today of > a new match at 67-markers, but whose surname is Milliken.? (Another of > > my group 1 other-surname matches is David Wilson.) > > Based on a message to someone else in the DNA-Newbie Yahoo group I went > to semargl.me and found some numbers but have not yet been able to check > those against the Cannon Surname Project subjects due to traveling to be > with my mother and sister for Thanksgiving. > > I still need to sign up with ysearch.org and also smgf.org (sp? -- the > Sorenson website). > > Ed Cannon - Austin, Texas, USA > > Doug wrote: > > "Trust me on this one, please, but any and all of your genetic testing > results can and will be appreciated by no less than several members of this > M222 group. > > "However, beyond whatever information FTDNA could supply you with, there > also are a number of other strategies which could be employed to further > refine your exploration. > > "To begin with, have you searched for a Cannon family project available at > FTDNA? > > "And then there are a number of other strategies and tricks, too." > > > ------------------------------ > > End of DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 7, Issue 471 > ****************************************** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >