> I updated the spreadsheet again last night and attempted to break out > DF85 and DF85>DF97 varieties under M222. DF85 looks to be fairly old > so it may do a nice job of dividing M222 folks. I think the STR > signature(s) range for DF85 will be quite wide but M222 is so big and > young there could be a lot of STR convergence. SNPs are clearly > needed for M222 people and DF85 looks to be just the first of what > will probably a number of good sized subclades or sub-subclades of > M222. Mike W quoted from the R1b L21