Just received my Chromo2 results and my terminal snp is s588. Earliest known ancestor Arthur McBride, lived Rampark, Cooley peninsula, died aged 92 in 1879 in Dundalk, County Louth

Exactly what do your results look like? What is the format? What data are you given? How do you access it? Are the designations like S588 meaningful such as ATCG (pick one), derived or ancestral), base pair indexed, or rs number indexed? Was the terminal SNP all that you were given back? I am very interested in running a extended Y-SNP test to compare against Steve Lominac, whom I spoke to earlier this evening. But Steve has seen no data from his test. Apparently it was run through Sandy Patterson, but Steve has not received access to his data file nor his data. I match Steve 104/111 Y-DNA and we are both SNP tested for R-M222. There is a complicated Gordian knot of Freemans, Lominacs, Gills, Sudduth, and Nutters all of who are close Y-matches and all of whom have some sort of connection to the area between present day Culpepper (formerly Fairfield) Culpepper Co, Virginia and Warrenton, Fauquier County Virginia. My family tradition is that we are of Irish descent, though my earliest known ancestor is a Samuel Freeman b ~1760 +/- whose parents and connection to Ireland are unknown at present. I am most interested in comparing SNPs with Steve who so far seems to be ancestral for R-M222, and am considering the Big Y test at FTDNA, which seems to be another "pig-in-a-poke" for the moment though it is a Y-sequence test and not a chip test, know one knows what data or what format a customer will get for his money. I suspect that that test is in beta, though FTDNA has not used that language, but they have not been forthcoming with any details either. And we know that they recently fired the guy, Thomas Krahn, who built their in-house laboratory and designed the Big Y test! I am most interested to see where this all leads and what we can learn possibly about our Irish origins. So what does your data return from BritainsDNA Chromo2 consist of and what does it look like? Thanks, Walter Freeman On 11/15/2013 2:42 PM, Robert McBride wrote: > Just received my Chromo2 results and my terminal snp is s588. > > Earliest known ancestor Arthur McBride, lived Rampark, Cooley peninsula, died aged 92 in 1879 in Dundalk, County Louth >

Walter, If you ordered the raw version you can download a .txt file whose format I described last month in this post: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DNA-R1B1C7/2013-10/1381923024 and that is what we examine. You get it by logging in to your account and clicking the Download button. I can't say for sure that Steve has a downloadable file (yet). If he doesn't he can email [email protected] and they should be able to send it him. Iain > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:02:57 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Raw Results s588 > > Exactly what do your results look like? What is the format? What data > are you given? How do you access it? Are the designations like S588 > meaningful such as ATCG (pick one), derived or ancestral), base pair > indexed, or rs number indexed? > > Was the terminal SNP all that you were given back? > > I am very interested in running a extended Y-SNP test to compare against > Steve Lominac, whom I spoke to earlier this evening. But Steve has seen > no data from his test. Apparently it was run through Sandy Patterson, > but Steve has not received access to his data file nor his data. > > I match Steve 104/111 Y-DNA and we are both SNP tested for R-M222. There > is a complicated Gordian knot of Freemans, Lominacs, Gills, Sudduth, and > Nutters all of who are close Y-matches and all of whom have some sort of > connection to the area between present day Culpepper (formerly > Fairfield) Culpepper Co, Virginia and Warrenton, Fauquier County > Virginia. My family tradition is that we are of Irish descent, though > my earliest known ancestor is a Samuel Freeman b ~1760 +/- whose parents > and connection to Ireland are unknown at present. > > I am most interested in comparing SNPs with Steve who so far seems to be > ancestral for R-M222, and am considering the Big Y test at FTDNA, which > seems to be another "pig-in-a-poke" for the moment though it is a > Y-sequence test and not a chip test, know one knows what data or what > format a customer will get for his money. I suspect that that test is > in beta, though FTDNA has not used that language, but they have not been > forthcoming with any details either. And we know that they recently > fired the guy, Thomas Krahn, who built their in-house laboratory and > designed the Big Y test! > > I am most interested to see where this all leads and what we can learn > possibly about our Irish origins. > > So what does your data return from BritainsDNA Chromo2 consist of and > what does it look like? > > Thanks, > > Walter Freeman > > > On 11/15/2013 2:42 PM, Robert McBride wrote: > > Just received my Chromo2 results and my terminal snp is s588. > > > > Earliest known ancestor Arthur McBride, lived Rampark, Cooley peninsula, died aged 92 in 1879 in Dundalk, County Louth > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iain, Do you have a copy of what the "signature" looks like? or whatever they are calling the list of positive(derived) SNPs. Is it something you can copy/paste into an email like this? Essentially, that would be the equivalent of an FTDNA project Y DNA SNP report display. I have mechanism to read those strings and filter them to come up with the "defining" (or terminal) SNP and other relevant SNPs in a logical sequence. Regards, Mike W Mike W On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Iain Kennedy <[email protected]>wrote: > Walter, > > If you ordered the raw version you can download a .txt file whose format I > described last month in this post: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DNA-R1B1C7/2013-10/1381923024 > > and that is what we examine. You get it by logging in to your account and > clicking the Download button. I can't say for sure that Steve has a > downloadable file (yet). If he doesn't he can email > [email protected] and they should be able to send it him. > > Iain > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:02:57 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Raw Results s588 > > > > Exactly what do your results look like? What is the format? What data > > are you given? How do you access it? Are the designations like S588 > > meaningful such as ATCG (pick one), derived or ancestral), base pair > > indexed, or rs number indexed? > > > > Was the terminal SNP all that you were given back? > > > > I am very interested in running a extended Y-SNP test to compare against > > Steve Lominac, whom I spoke to earlier this evening. But Steve has seen > > no data from his test. Apparently it was run through Sandy Patterson, > > but Steve has not received access to his data file nor his data. > > > > I match Steve 104/111 Y-DNA and we are both SNP tested for R-M222. There > > is a complicated Gordian knot of Freemans, Lominacs, Gills, Sudduth, and > > Nutters all of who are close Y-matches and all of whom have some sort of > > connection to the area between present day Culpepper (formerly > > Fairfield) Culpepper Co, Virginia and Warrenton, Fauquier County > > Virginia. My family tradition is that we are of Irish descent, though > > my earliest known ancestor is a Samuel Freeman b ~1760 +/- whose parents > > and connection to Ireland are unknown at present. > > > > I am most interested in comparing SNPs with Steve who so far seems to be > > ancestral for R-M222, and am considering the Big Y test at FTDNA, which > > seems to be another "pig-in-a-poke" for the moment though it is a > > Y-sequence test and not a chip test, know one knows what data or what > > format a customer will get for his money. I suspect that that test is > > in beta, though FTDNA has not used that language, but they have not been > > forthcoming with any details either. And we know that they recently > > fired the guy, Thomas Krahn, who built their in-house laboratory and > > designed the Big Y test! > > > > I am most interested to see where this all leads and what we can learn > > possibly about our Irish origins. > > > > So what does your data return from BritainsDNA Chromo2 consist of and > > what does it look like? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Walter Freeman > > > > > > On 11/15/2013 2:42 PM, Robert McBride wrote: > > > Just received my Chromo2 results and my terminal snp is s588. > > > > > > Earliest known ancestor Arthur McBride, lived Rampark, Cooley > peninsula, died aged 92 in 1879 in Dundalk, County Louth > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike, Yes but I've already kindly offered to do that for everyone here anyway, and add them to the correct location in my M222 diagram - only fair since I was the main person who kept telling everyone to buy the Raw version of the test. :-) Iain > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:41:29 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Raw Results s588 > > Iain, > > Do you have a copy of what the "signature" looks like? or whatever they are > calling the list of positive(derived) SNPs. Is it something you can > copy/paste into an email like this? Essentially, that would be the > equivalent of an FTDNA project Y DNA SNP report display. I have mechanism > to read those strings and filter them to come up with the "defining" (or > terminal) SNP and other relevant SNPs in a logical sequence. > > Regards, > Mike W > > Mike W > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Iain Kennedy <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Walter, > > > > If you ordered the raw version you can download a .txt file whose format I > > described last month in this post: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DNA-R1B1C7/2013-10/1381923024 > > > > and that is what we examine. You get it by logging in to your account and > > clicking the Download button. I can't say for sure that Steve has a > > downloadable file (yet). If he doesn't he can email > > [email protected] and they should be able to send it him. > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:02:57 -0500 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Raw Results s588 > > > > > > Exactly what do your results look like? What is the format? What data > > > are you given? How do you access it? Are the designations like S588 > > > meaningful such as ATCG (pick one), derived or ancestral), base pair > > > indexed, or rs number indexed? > > > > > > Was the terminal SNP all that you were given back? > > > > > > I am very interested in running a extended Y-SNP test to compare against > > > Steve Lominac, whom I spoke to earlier this evening. But Steve has seen > > > no data from his test. Apparently it was run through Sandy Patterson, > > > but Steve has not received access to his data file nor his data. > > > > > > I match Steve 104/111 Y-DNA and we are both SNP tested for R-M222. There > > > is a complicated Gordian knot of Freemans, Lominacs, Gills, Sudduth, and > > > Nutters all of who are close Y-matches and all of whom have some sort of > > > connection to the area between present day Culpepper (formerly > > > Fairfield) Culpepper Co, Virginia and Warrenton, Fauquier County > > > Virginia. My family tradition is that we are of Irish descent, though > > > my earliest known ancestor is a Samuel Freeman b ~1760 +/- whose parents > > > and connection to Ireland are unknown at present. > > > > > > I am most interested in comparing SNPs with Steve who so far seems to be > > > ancestral for R-M222, and am considering the Big Y test at FTDNA, which > > > seems to be another "pig-in-a-poke" for the moment though it is a > > > Y-sequence test and not a chip test, know one knows what data or what > > > format a customer will get for his money. I suspect that that test is > > > in beta, though FTDNA has not used that language, but they have not been > > > forthcoming with any details either. And we know that they recently > > > fired the guy, Thomas Krahn, who built their in-house laboratory and > > > designed the Big Y test! > > > > > > I am most interested to see where this all leads and what we can learn > > > possibly about our Irish origins. > > > > > > So what does your data return from BritainsDNA Chromo2 consist of and > > > what does it look like? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Walter Freeman > > > > > > > > > On 11/15/2013 2:42 PM, Robert McBride wrote: > > > > Just received my Chromo2 results and my terminal snp is s588. > > > > > > > > Earliest known ancestor Arthur McBride, lived Rampark, Cooley > > peninsula, died aged 92 in 1879 in Dundalk, County Louth > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message