Mike W, The Chinese lab could be a state agency, but should not be discounted on that basis. They could care less if anybody of the M222 group could be Irish or Scottish. Yet they are quite expert at technology such as DNA. For instance, they are now successfully sending astronauts out into space and are being blamed for hacking into global computer systems. And now those Communist Chinese are focused on money. Oh, my goodness! ;-) Doug On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Mike W <[email protected]> wrote: > Rob, > > I've got inquiries into both companies on what they mean by coverage, etc. > I'll let you know what I can figure out, if anything. Unfortunately, some > of this is chicken and egg. You have to try it to see what it is. > > As far as SNPs go, I've tried to tell both companies I don't really care > about total coverage, etc., etc. I only care about the probability of > accurately reporting and discovering stable (for phylgenetic trees) SNPs > downstream of what we already known. Thousands of SNPs upstream make > little difference to genetic genealogy and SNPs that are highly > recurrent/unstable or can not be consistently/accurately tested are of not > much use that I can see. > > On Full Genome Corp, I have a personal concern that others may not have. It > appears your DNA sample has to be shipped to China to a lab that may be > little more than a state agency. I don't trust my own government so I don't > why I'd trust theirs. > > Regards, > Mike W > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Rob McFadden <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I don't think this has been posted on this list yet: > > > > > http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-new-big-y-test-from-family-tree-dna.html > > > > FTDNA is offering a new test for $499 (limited time, then $699) that > > covers 10 million base pairs, 25,000 known SNPs and is expected to > > discover new SNPs. > > > > The Full Genome is currently out of my price range. This is low > > enough to be tempting, but would be a stretch. Are enough details out > > there that someone could explain how much coverage this provides vs. > > the Full Genome test? I also would like to know more about the > > possibility of discovering new SNPs. If the whole genome is not > > covered, what are the odds of finding them? > > > > Rob > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tuulen, I agree that what's a state agency in China or not probably isn't really that important. What is important is that the government at Tianamen Square has control over there and I'm uncomfortable with their respect for individual rights and protections to go along with the legal checks, balances, free press and the ability to sue, etc. My genes are not just mine. They are passed on to my descendants. I don't want my grandchildren to be sitting around 25 years from now asking "why did grandpa do that?" I'm admittedly insecure about that which is I why checked FTDNA's policies to ensure I have the ability to have my DNA sample stored there destroyed if I so requested. I would not send passwords and account numbers to my checking accounts all over the place but at least those I can change and insure in some respects. I'm not really worried too much about my Y SNPs and STRs, but my saliva sample has my whole gemone and it is the blueprint for my body. I won't send that just anywhere. Mike W On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, tuulen <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike W, > > The Chinese lab could be a state agency, but should not be discounted on > that basis. They could care less if anybody of the M222 group could be > Irish or Scottish. Yet they are quite expert at technology such as DNA. > For instance, they are now successfully sending astronauts out into space > and are being blamed for hacking into global computer systems. > > And now those Communist Chinese are focused on money. Oh, my goodness! > > ;-) >