Thanks John, A further point: We have talked before about how 464a b c & d are measured. The four are amplified together and separated together, but they often appear as 3 peaks with 2 STRs together in one. The gel reader has to make an assumption of whether the 2 16s are b and c . If it is M222+, then they probably assign the 16 double peak to 464b and c automatically. Thus a bias can be included in the measurement, which could increase the percent at modal for these two markers. David > From: <Lochlan@aol.com> > Reply-To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:17:46 -0500 (EST) > To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] M222 Modal Markers > > > > In a message dated 11/19/2011 8:58:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, > david.maclennan@utoronto.ca writes: > > John, > Can you please check DYS710. I have it in my notes as 16. > > I have a spreadsheet pulled down a few days ago from the project and all > the DYS710 results are between 33 and 38. I'm not sure where the 16 could > be coming from. > > You can verify it for yourself at the FTDNA project site: > > _http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7/?/publicwebsite.aspx?vgroup=R1b1 > c7_ > (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7/?/publicwebsite.aspx?vgroup=R1b1c7 > ) > > > > John > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message