There are a few more DF23+ M222- samples listed on the L21 site. 63595 James Anglin, b.c. 1720 (Ireland) - d. 1778 (USA) R1b1a2a1a1b4 R-L21 DF23+, L144-, L159.2-, L193-, L21+, L226-, L513-, L96-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P25+, P312+, P314.2-, P66-, SRY2627-, Z253-, Z255- 97610 Mogue Kehoe b.1799 Kiltilly, Co. Wexford, Ire R1b1a2a1a1b4 R-L21 DF23+, L159.2-, L21+, L513-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P107-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152-, U198- 137235 Robert Caldwell, b.1750, York County, PA R1b1a2a1a1b4 R-L21 DF21-, DF23+, L130-, L144-, L159.2-, L192.1-, L193-, L195-, L21+, L226-, L302-, L319.1-, L513-, L96-, M153-, M222-, M37-, M65-, P312+, P314.2-, P66-, SRY2627-, U152-, Z253- I compared these to the M222 modal at 37 markers. 97610 Kehoe (14 GD) 137235 Caldwell (16 GD) 63595 Anglin (26 GD) For comparison purposes bear in mind the Conroy was the furthest M222+ at 15 GD. If you prefer 67 markers the numbers are: Kehoe (20) Caldwell (21) Anglin (29) You're out of luck at 111 markers. There's only one such sample. I myself don't see any obvious pre M222 signs in the STRS. One sample has 390 = 25 (Kehoe). One has 392 = 14 ( Caldwell). The third sample Anglin has nothing that resembles M222. I put a spreadsheet with these samples on the M222 site and will update when new results appear. _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/DF23.xls_ (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/DF23.xls)