There are four new DF23+ M222- samples listed on the L21 site today. None of these have much in the way of M222 modal markers. _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/DF23.xls_ (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/DF23.xls) GDs vary; N1871 Warren has none of the typical M222 pattern yet is just an 11 GD from the M222 modal at 37 markers. The others are 16 (2), 17, 19. None of these samples are close to each other in terms of GDs. The FTDNA haplotree does not yet reflect the placement of DF23.