In a message dated 11/17/2011 6:42:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, Lochlan@aol.com writes: In a message dated 11/17/2011 5:34:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, pabloburns@comcast.net writes: I tested two project members whom I had listed as "probable M222." One was an O'Beirne (149181) who lives in Roscommon, and the other was a Burns (149182) whose ancestors came from Sligo but were not related to mine. Both were DF23 positive. Paul Paul, I'm not sure I get that. Were the two M222-? Or were they just tested for DF23? I answered my own question by looking at the SNP tests. They just show a test for DF23. But not M222. The SNP section of M222 is now showing 8 DF23+ M222+ results. It does seem all M222+ are going to be DF23+. John