"Susan just sent me her SNP results. It was L21+ and M222+. Apparently they are not yet including DF23 in their basic haplogroup deed clade testing." No they are not and the current makeup of the Deep Clade test is disappointing. I had high hopes for my member 36258 who is in my still unidentified Lineage VIII. His Deep Clade test is just back and no clues. He is M222- but was not tested for DF23, L159.2- but not tested for Z255, L226- but not tested for Z253, P66- but not tested for L513, P314.2- but not tested for DF21. In short they have yet to include a whole new level of SNPs between L21 and the SNPs currently being tested. And some of these are major divisions below L21. For example L513 has five SNP divisions below it, while DF21 has at least seven. Hard it keep up these days. Paul