In a message dated 11/2/2011 9:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com writes: Hi Mike You are now shown to be M222+ at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7/default.aspx?section=ysnp Did you re-test? Sandy Did anyone hear more about this? The admin of the L21 project had a group he called pre M222 of which the leading sample was Hannan. He was formerly listed as M222- and appears in the M222- section of the M222 project but now shows positive for DF23 and M222. In looking at the L21 project I see a number of DF23 tests in which all testees except Hannan are DFY23-. The Hannan sample has been a mystery to all since the STRs perfectly match the M222 pattern. Are there any other positive DF23 results out there? We now have three in the M222 project with tests ordered for DF23. Patterson, O'Byrne and McNeely. John
There was a subsequent post on DNA Forums by Mike in which he paraphrased a message he'd got from Max Blankfeld of FTDNA. Mr. Blankfeld stated that a mistake had been made in his test and he was actually M222+ after all, and they are giving him refunds for all the unnecessary SNP tests since his initial deep clade test. A few people have since pointed out that there still several M222- guys left who are close to the North-West Irish modal and who would be good candidates for DF23 testing. Steve On 3 November 2011 21:13, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/2/2011 9:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com writes: > > Hi Mike > > You are now shown to be M222+ at > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7/default.aspx?section=ysnp > > Did you re-test? > > Sandy > > Did anyone hear more about this? The admin of the L21 project had a group > he called pre M222 of which the leading sample was Hannan. He was > formerly listed as M222- and appears in the M222- section of the M222 > project but > now shows positive for DF23 and M222. In looking at the L21 project I see > a number of DF23 tests in which all testees except Hannan are DFY23-. > > The Hannan sample has been a mystery to all since the STRs perfectly > match the M222 pattern. > > Are there any other positive DF23 results out there? > > We now have three in the M222 project with tests ordered for DF23. > Patterson, O'Byrne and McNeely. > > John